UK, US and Canada allege Russian cyberattacks on CoVID-19 research centers
Source: CNN
(CNN)Russian cyber actors are targeting organizations involved in coronavirus vaccine development, according to a new warning by US, UK and Canadian security officials on Thursday that details activity by a Russian hacking group called APT29, which also goes by the name "the Dukes" or "Cozy Bear."
An advisory published by the UK National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) details activity by the Russian hacking group and explicitly calls out efforts to target US, UK and Canadian vaccine research and development organizations.
Cozy Bear is one of two hacking groups linked to Russian intelligence that is believed to have accessed the Democratic National Committee's internal systems in the lead-up to the 2016 US election, but Thursday's announcement is the first time this group has been named in connection to cyberattacks related to the coronavirus pandemic.
The US, UK and Canadian authorities have issued several warnings about state-backed cyberattacks in recent month.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/russia-cyberattack-covid-vaccine-research/index.html
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)about this situation and the American service personnel bounty sisyuation when he has another rant show...................nothing........
January 21, 2021 cannot get here fast enough...............
fleur-de-lisa
(14,627 posts)There is no other explanation. It's not just the sheer incompetence. Dump is actively working to ensure more American covid-19 deaths.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)just doesn't give a crap about anyone or thing and just doesn't care, then if and its a big if this guy stays in the office, I think it is time to take to the streets..................
I am almost seventy years old and we took out a president, that lied, and got more people killed based on him wanting to get re-elected and him committing treason to fulfill that scheme......................and it is unfolding just like back then, enough is enough...................
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)I havent slept through the night since the 2016 election.
We are all, literally, in a fight for our lives.
ResistantAmerican17
(3,809 posts)stand idly by while 100s of thousands just die.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)from the safety and security of a nice, cozy building in Moscow. Never firing a gun, never dropping a bomb, never putting a single Russian life in danger. Hack the world. Install a Russian Agent as President of the United States, and install other Russian leaders in countries around the world. Manipulate scientific, economic, political etc. data for other countries throughout the world, while keeping the actual, best scientific, economic, political etc. data for themselves. Russia just gets stronger and stronger. The rest of the world just gets weaker and weaker. Russia wins the world.
Either Donald Trump is a Russian Agent working specifically for Putin, or he's the most gullible, ignorant, and careless individual to ever sit in the Oval Office. Those are the only two possibilities that can explain what's happening in the United States right now. Think about that.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)dansolo
(5,376 posts)He has no critical thinking skills at all. He doesn't consider himself as a Putin employee. He thinks he is at Putin's level. All it takes is a little flattery and an appeal to Trump's baser tendencies, and you can get him to do whatever you want.
Lonestarblue
(10,012 posts)Or it may want to hack and change data to thwart development of a vaccine. Putin and Trump are fine with the virus continuing its spread here and killing millions of Americans. Given that Trump has pissed off every one of our allies, those that develop a vaccine will share it with the EU countries first, not the US if our vaccine development goes awry. Will we last another six months of this?
IronLionZion
(45,457 posts)to find efficiencies by contracting it out.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Pay For Slay.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Stuxnet time.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)He'll call putin and putin will tell him it's all a big mistake and the orange asshole with think that's A-okay.
Whew! I feel better.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)helped us attack Russia and slowed their cyber activity IF we had acknowledged it and gone after them like we should have.
Third question asked everyday by press; "Why is the pResident not doing anything to Russia as they try and kill Americans, steal technology, interrupt our election processes and disrupt our culture, is it because he is controlled by Putin?"
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)bluewater
(5,376 posts)Don't we all want to pool our science and end the pandemic?
Shouldn't the US, the UK, the EU, China and Russia all be sharing research?
Oh wait...
It's about the $$$$$$$, isn't it?
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...election systems?
Your question assumes that scientists are not sharing research and data.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Apparently the Intelligence agencies are implying that there are research secrets.
The National Security Agency said a hacking group associated with Russian intelligence was targeting health care organizations to gain intelligence about vaccines.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/world/coronavirus-updates.html
As for your strawman argument about approving of hacking, please don't take my sub-thread off on a tangent, especially strawman tangents.
Again, I strongly feel ALL Covid-19 Research should be shared so there is nothing to, in the words attributed in the NY Times to the Intelligence Agencies, steal.
That seems pretty straight forward.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)it is Russia. Now, if it was China, he would have Barr and Wray holding a press conference and issuing press releases, but because it is Putie, it won't be a big deal for Trump.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)The National Security Agency said a hacking group associated with Russian intelligence was targeting health care organizations to gain intelligence about vaccines.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/world/coronavirus-updates.html
If, as the NY Time attributes to the Intelligence agencies, there really are Vaccine Research secrets that hackers are trying to steal, the fact that research is being kept secret is a problem that must be addressed.
As I asked before, does it all come down to the $$$$ to be made when it comes time to sell vaccines?
Seems so.
And pardon me for, once again, returning my sub-thread to it's topic. I feel that it's an important topic and deserves discussion.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...that the actions of the Russians are justified because all information regarding COVID-19 vaccine research should be public? Or, is it that Trump's inaction regarding Russia is justified?
After all, the OP was about Russian hacking.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)lol
After all, the OP was about Russian hacking to steal Vaccine Research secrets, wasn't it?
I don't think there should be any vaccine research secrets to steal.
I think all Covid-19 research should be shared between scientists, doctors and governments.
That's stated very clearly, isn't it?
Open research shared globally is needed to defeat this pandemic.
Pardon me why I continue to ignore any and all strawman arguments trying to take that point off on a tangent in my sub-thread.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)if the Russianz supported your position that vaccine research should be transparent, then fhey should pursue that through proper channels, rather then engage in self-help by hacking.
Also, through such dialog we can see if Russia is also being transparent.
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bluewater
(5,376 posts)I believe the intelligence agencies when they say there were vaccine research secrets that Russian hackers were trying to steal.
I was disappointed to hear this because I thought we were sharing all Covid-19 research between scientists and doctors.
As I have repeatedly stated, the only way we will defeat this pandemic is if ALL research is openly shared globally between scientists, doctors and governments.
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The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The votes, or lack of them, are what they are.
So has been the support from Russian state media.
People are certainly entitled to ask whether there is some connection, even to speculate that one may exist, and be based on some overlap of interests.
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Who wrote that? Like I said, the posting format made that unclear.
Was that an excerpt from the article?
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)The votes are known.
That he received support from Russian state media is known.
What is your explanation?
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Which votes did the good Senator Sanders cast against American Interests?
Please proceed.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)In 2019, Bernie Sanders was the sole senator to miss the vote on a bill that would prevent the U.S. Treasury Department from rolling back sanctions on three companies owned by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, a close ally of Vladimir Putin. Senator Sanders skipped the vote in order to meet with former staff members who conveyed their dismay over the alleged mistreatment of women during his 2016 campaign.
I do consider voting against, or in effect abstaining from any vote on, either of these measures to be not in the best interests of the United States. You are free to disagree, of course. I do not propose to argue the point beyond having stated it. Why he did this is a separate question. People will draw their own conclusions, and you are not entitled to insist those conclusion be favorable to Sanders.
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)While I support sanctions on Russia and North Korea, I voted against the sanctions bill last week because it contains sanctions on Iran that I believe could endanger the Iran nuclear agreement. This agreement was President Obamas most important foreign policy achievement, and President Trump has made clear his intention to destroy it. Progressives must get mobilized to protect it, just as we did with the Affordable Care Act!
Well, so much for voting against America, hmmm?
Sanders was correct to suspect that Trump was attempting to destroy the Iran Nuclear Agreement. In the words of Doctor McCoy from Star Trek, "It's dead, Jim."
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)And I am aware of the excuse he gave at the time. In a bill like this, which contains many elements, a judgement must be made. The action against Russia has, in my view, far more import than the 'poison pill' regarding Iran. He ought to have voted for the bill. He was on the wrong side of an important issue.
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)Nuclear escalation in the Middle East threatening the very existence of Israel is more important to some of us it seems.
Sanders was right, recent history has proven him right.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)At best, it merely signaled his status as 'holier than thou', and I not only have little taste for such gestures, I have an active distaste for them, and for people who indulge in them. It would have been better to align with the action against Russia, which poses a far greater and more active threat.
Personally, I supported the Iran agreement. It was the best deal that could be gotten at the time, and postponing the advent of a nuclear Iran is worth something. It is not impossible sanity might set in in the country's governance. But all the agreement did was postpone Iran achieving nuclear capability. They would be idiotic not to want that in their national arsenal, and one way or another were, and still are, going to acquire such weapons.
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)Pardon me for smiling while you denigrate one of President Obama's cornerstone achievements.
Former President Barack Obama offered a rare public rebuttal to President Donald Trump on Tuesday, calling his decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear a serious mistake.
Obama has been reluctant to rebuke his White House successor, following a precedent set by previous chief executives. But the potential unraveling of his signature foreign policy achievement prompted a 12-paragraph statement on Tuesday.
We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, wrote Obama, who spent 18 months negotiating the agreement in 2014 and 2015 . If the constraints on Irans nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.
Trump has long been outspoken in his criticism of Obama and the deal, which he blasted as decaying in his announcement on Tuesday. The U.S. is planning to reimpose a set of sanctions within months, though Iran said it would seek to preserve the deal during a limited period of talks with its other signatories, China, France, Russia, Germany, Britain and the European Union.
But Obama emphasized that the deal was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran, and he warned that undermining it despite no clear evidence of Iranian violations could hasten an arms race or outright regional conflict.
Obama also said violating the deal could undermine the United States credibility on the international stage. He said the JCPOA had worked to halt Irans progress toward a nuclear weapon, highlighting its international inspections and noting that some of its provisions were permanent.
Well, there it is. Whom to believe? You and Donald Trump or President Obama? Easy choice for me.
You though are free to disagree with the greatest President in living memory who had all the briefings on Iran from our intelligence agencies because everyone is entitled to their own opinions, even silly ones.
I think I am done here. Have a nice day.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Achieving the best arrangement possible is something worth applause.
The best policy for a succeeding administration would have been to maintain our end of the agreement. Delaying Iran's production of nuclear weapons is worth a great deal. I have not said a word against President Obama's actions in regard to Iran.
Provision of measures against Iran were a 'poison pill', something it was hoped would peel off Democratic support for measures against Russia, which could be used down the line to claim Democrats really didn't care about Russian aggression and interference with our elections. That attempt at manipulation failed. Democrats voted solidly to rebuke Russia. The vote on the bill was 98 in favor, and only two against. Sanders voted identically with Rand Paul, whom I hope you will not accuse of defending President Obama's achievements in office. Just as I expect you will not accuse the entire roster of Democratic Senators of voting to denigrate President Obama's achievements in office. You would have to levy the same accusation against the entire Democratic caucus in the House, as only three votes were cast there against the measure, all by Republicans.
What you do not even engage, let alone attempt explain, is why Sanders was unwilling to go along with the entirety of the Democratic contingent in the House and Senate in this matter. The idea he alone was defending President Obama is laughable. Why do you think Sanders voted the same way Rand Paul did, and the same way as several members of the House 'Liberty Caucus' did?
HeartlandProgressive
(294 posts)You said this:
Worth "something"? That's definitely a slight and minimizing the treaty.
"All it did was postpone", why that's another slight and a textbook backhanded slur.
"All it did was" was this:
The JCPOAs limitations on Irans nuclear activities block Irans pathways to the bomb and prevent the nation from being able to amass enough bomb-grade nuclear material for one explosive device in less than one year. Moreover, any Iranian efforts to ramp up its fissile material production for weapons would be detected by the IAEA and national means of intelligence well in advance.
But it's your core premise that seems most Trumpian. When you blithely said this:
It sounded distressing similar to Trump saying this:
Astounding and distressing.
And What did President Obama say in defense of the agreement that both you and Trump claim to be ineffective?
The Obama White House said this:
The Historic Deal That Will Prevent Iran from Acquiring a Nuclear Weapon
(How the US and the International Community will block all of Iran's pathways to a nuclear weapon)
On January 16, 2016, the International Atomic Energy Agency verified that Iran has completed the necessary steps under the Iran deal that will ensure Iran's nuclear program is and remains exclusively peaceful.
Before this agreement, Iran's breakout time -- or the time it would have taken for Iran to gather enough fissile material to build a weapon -- was only two to three months. Today, because of the Iran deal, it would take Iran 12 months or more. And with the unprecedented monitoring and access this deal puts in place, if Iran tries, we will know and sanctions will snap back into place.
Here's how we got to this point. Since October, Iran has:
Shipped 25,000 pounds of enriched uranium out of the country
Dismantled and removed two-thirds of its centrifuges
Removed the calandria from its heavy water reactor and filled it with concrete
Provided unprecedented access to its nuclear facilities and supply chain
Because Iran has completed these steps, the U.S. and international community can begin the next phase under the JCPOA, which means the U.S. will begin lifting its nuclear-related sanctions on Iran. However, a number of U.S. sanctions authorities and designations will continue to remain in place.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/issues/foreign-policy/iran-deal
Well, that is certainly different than Trump's statements and your "damning with faint praise" of the agreement, isn't it?
I took the time to memorialize your prior comments here because they sounded so defeatist and similar to Trump's own.
Honestly, in light of the information provided here, perhaps it would be best if you repudiated your prior comments about what President Obama's foreign policy actually achieved with regards to Iran.
I am truly done with this. Continue to minimize the effectiveness of President Obama's foreign policy if you so choose. It's still a free country despite Trump's best efforts and every American has the right to be wrong.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)If you are through with this, as you say again, then you know what to do.
I suspect you do not appreciate the import of what you have posted up, but feel under no obligation to educate you, having other things to do today.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...then you post a response that seems to justify the hack, then suddenly you bring up Bernie Sanders in a thread about Russian hacking? Talk about a non-sequitur.