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brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:34 PM Jul 2020

Karen Bass walks back Castro comment amid VP vetting

Source: Politico

Rep. Karen Bass on Sunday walked back a years-old characterization of the late Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, seemingly seeking to defuse an escalating controversy as the California congresswoman contends for a spot on the 2020 Democratic presidential ticket.

In an interview on MSNBC, the five-term House lawmaker and chair of the Congressional Black Caucus addressed her decision to describe Castro as “Comandante en Jefe” in a statement she issued marking his death in 2016.

The Spanish phrase, which translates in English to commander in chief, has been criticized as unduly deferential to the communist strongman who presided over various human rights abuses.

“I have talked to my colleagues in the House about that, and it’s certainly something that I would not say again,” Bass said. “I have always supported the Cuban people, and the relationship that Barack Obama and Biden had in their administration in terms of opening up relations.”



Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/karen-bass-castro-comment-vp-vetting-382316



Bass is 67; is that the "new generation" we're looking for in 2024?
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Karen Bass walks back Castro comment amid VP vetting (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
Bass would be a placeholder, not a serious presidential contender Merlot Jul 2020 #1
Biden has enough "national profile" for the whole ticket. Laelth Jul 2020 #6
Probably because, she'd be a placeholder and not a serious presidential contender qazplm135 Jul 2020 #10
Exactly, she's a placeholder. Merlot Jul 2020 #17
Placeholder? Laelth Jul 2020 #20
oh stop qazplm135 Jul 2020 #22
When Truman became VP, he had less political experience than Bass has now. Laelth Jul 2020 #23
no qazplm135 Jul 2020 #26
Why do they let these people out without their handlers???? Grins Jul 2020 #2
Comment made in 2016 ... hlthe2b Jul 2020 #4
Bass is not the hard hitter I think we need in this position, NOW, especially. hlthe2b Jul 2020 #3
She was Speaker of the California Assembly. Laelth Jul 2020 #7
Perhaps, but she hasn't come across that way in interviews or congressional hearings... hlthe2b Jul 2020 #8
Not yet, perhaps. Laelth Jul 2020 #9
You keep saying that, but.. Callado119 Jul 2020 #24
California isn't just ANY state. Laelth Jul 2020 #27
She was probably encouraged to walk back this comment ... Laelth Jul 2020 #5
I honestly don't see the big deal about that particular comment. groundloop Jul 2020 #19
Presumably, it hurts the party in Florida. Laelth Jul 2020 #21
get the hook - next! getagrip_already Jul 2020 #11
"Comandante en Jefe", like him or not, that's what he was. Can we find anything less important ... marble falls Jul 2020 #12
She's not the choice. Zeus69 Jul 2020 #13
Your absolute certainty piques my curiosity. Laelth Jul 2020 #16
Can debate... Zeus69 Jul 2020 #30
Fair enough. Laelth Jul 2020 #31
Never heard of her Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #14
I don't understand why Bass is wanted by so many. Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #15
She won't overshadow Joe. Laelth Jul 2020 #18
It's pretty clear this is more about qazplm135 Jul 2020 #25
That description applies to Demmings too. Laelth Jul 2020 #28
no it doesnt qazplm135 Jul 2020 #29
I can't wait for a "new generation" that doesn't get bent out of shape over Castro JonLP24 Jul 2020 #32

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
1. Bass would be a placeholder, not a serious presidential contender
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jul 2020

5 term house member from California with no national profile. Why is she being considered?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. Biden has enough "national profile" for the whole ticket.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jul 2020

Karen Bass is no lightweight.

-Laelth

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
10. Probably because, she'd be a placeholder and not a serious presidential contender
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:12 PM
Jul 2020

Harris is being attacked primarily because she'd be a formidable candidate as the sitting VP, and I'm fairly certain others who would like to run (and their supporters) are not keen on that happening.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. Exactly, she's a placeholder.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jul 2020

That (if it were to happen) to be a mistake. If Biden didn't run in 2024, we'd need a strong VP who has made a name for herself.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
22. oh stop
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

Karen Bass is not Truman.

She's a fine human being who has done great things. She's not the next President of the US.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
23. When Truman became VP, he had less political experience than Bass has now.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jul 2020

That’s all I am saying.

-Laelth

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
4. Comment made in 2016 ...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jul 2020


Yeah, I know the Cubans of Miami will make hay, but I rather doubt the context was as laudatory as some would suggest.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
3. Bass is not the hard hitter I think we need in this position, NOW, especially.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

I do like her, but I want someone who can be both a "hard-assed bad cop" that holds the Trump ilk to count and an engaging voice and strategist. Obviously, Biden needs a good working relationship and hopefully a close connection, but he needs so much more from this particular pick.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Not yet, perhaps.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:11 PM
Jul 2020

Karen Bass plays a very understated political game, like Obama, but she plays it well, and she’s fantastically liberal. She is also under very serious consideration by Team Biden—for good reason. She has a long and accomplished career in politics. She’s my favorite for the VP slot at this point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass

-Laelth

Callado119

(171 posts)
24. You keep saying that, but..
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jul 2020

How many Presidents, and a VP has to ready to be president on day one, have the highlight of their career being a speaker in a state legislature? Few have gone from the house of reps to be president or VP as well because people don’t feel they are experienced or tested enough unless they are a sitting or for U.S. Senator or governor who’s won statewide races. While Bass may be a good congresswoman, she would be the definition of a lightweight as VP. Picking someone so inexperienced when there’s a highly qualified sitting us senator who’s also a black women just because they think Bass will be more subservient would be tokenism and would hurt the campaign. This Cuba mess would already cost them FL, so hopefully they steer clear of her..

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
27. California isn't just ANY state.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jul 2020

California has more people than Canada, but the main point about her being Speaker is that it proves she’s a leader. Nancy Pelosi, for example, is qualified to be President, I would think. Bass may have no executive branch experience, but neither did Truman when he became FDR’s VP.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. She was probably encouraged to walk back this comment ...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jul 2020

... by Team Biden.

She is under SERIOUS consideration. Do not underestimate her. She was Speaker of the California Assembly, after all. She’s no lightweight.

-Laelth

groundloop

(11,520 posts)
19. I honestly don't see the big deal about that particular comment.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

Calling Castro "Commander In Chief" is hardly as though she were fawning all over him. To me it sounds like a handful of Cuban republicans looking for an excuse for a fight.

And from what I've read about Karen Bass it sounds like she could be a good choice.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. Presumably, it hurts the party in Florida.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jul 2020

Either way, she walked it back, and I am not aware of any other political baggage that haunts her.



-Laelth

getagrip_already

(14,795 posts)
11. get the hook - next!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jul 2020

We need someone younger and better vetted. Sorry, she doesn't make any grade, california speaker or not. That is not exactly a paramount virtue.....

marble falls

(57,136 posts)
12. "Comandante en Jefe", like him or not, that's what he was. Can we find anything less important ...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

to split hairs about????

Zeus69

(391 posts)
30. Can debate...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jul 2020

Who the choice should be, but this is a race among Harris/Demings/Rice. That’s why I feel “certain“ it is not Bass.

I am on record that the pic has been Harris internally for quite some time. The rest is due diligence and the “process”.

We will know soon.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. Fair enough.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jul 2020

My early support for Harris evaporated after the murder of George Floyd. She’s just not a good look for us in 2020. That and I am not looking forward to watching Republicans running ads from our primary debates showing Harris ripping up our nominee, but you’re right. We will know soon enough. Personally, I am in no hurry.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
18. She won't overshadow Joe.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jul 2020

She’s younger than Warren. She didn’t attack Joe in the primaries like Harris did. She’s an African-American woman who has a good shot at becoming President if she’s Biden’s VP (and this will be great for turnout). She’s a strong liberal. She’s not a pro-state, pro-lock-em-up-forever former prosecutor (bad optics in 2020). She was the Speaker of the California Assembly. She’s a hard-working, no drama, behind-the-scenes leader and legislator.

She’s well worth Biden’s consideration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass

-Laelth

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
25. It's pretty clear this is more about
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jul 2020

your dislike of Harris than anything else.

Particularly with your BS description of her as "pro-state, pro-lock-em-up-forever."

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
28. That description applies to Demmings too.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:09 PM
Jul 2020

It’s not all about Kamala, and I am very fond of Kamala, but 2020 is the year of BLM, and a former prosecutor may not be our best choice.

-Laelth

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
32. I can't wait for a "new generation" that doesn't get bent out of shape over Castro
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jul 2020

US allies with Saudi Arabia and Biden said the Egyptian dictator isn't a dictator.

Biden: Mubarak not a dictator, protests not like Eastern Europe

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/140923-biden-mubarak-not-a-dictator-protests-not-like-eastern-europe%3famp

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