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alp227

(32,034 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:04 AM Aug 2020

DeWine renews call for gun action after Cincinnati shootings

Source: Dayton Daily News

An outbreak of gun violence in Cincinnati early Sunday killed four people, injured 14 in four separate incidents, and renewed calls for action statewide on gun violence which were first voiced a year ago after Dayton’s Oregon District shooting.

“Ohio must act,” Gov Mike DeWine said in a statement issues Sunday. “As more and more people are hurt and killed by gun violence, I am again urging Ohio’s legislature to pass our #STRONGOhio bill. This bill will help protect our citizens while also respecting the Second Amendment and due process rights.”

Cincinnati police on Sunday said they were unaware of any connections yet between the four shooting incidents that occurred early Sunday, killing four and injuring 14.

[...]

Police have identified the four who died as Antonio Blair, 21; Robert Rogers, 34; Jaquiez Grant, 30 and Myron Green, 39. Police did not release the four victims’ home of record, and there were no suspects in custody Sunday evening from any of the shootings, officials said.

Read more: https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/17-shot-two-dead-in-unrelated-shootings-in-cincinnati/QHXBDO6ATRAWHC4TQYTK7ROHSA/

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DeWine renews call for gun action after Cincinnati shootings (Original Post) alp227 Aug 2020 OP
I still find it strange that shithole's testing for COVID-19 found. . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #1
Within Delphinus Aug 2020 #4
I can imagine my former Trump-humping coworkers... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #2
Yes we will have to take guns away to solve this StClone Aug 2020 #3
Re-writing an amendment is not as easy as you think, dware Aug 2020 #5
Who thought it was easy? maxsolomon Aug 2020 #6
Can't argue with what you say, dware Aug 2020 #7
5%? maxsolomon Aug 2020 #8
As I said, dware Aug 2020 #9
Hartmann needs to rethink his "regulate guns like cars" idea hack89 Aug 2020 #10
It doesn't need rewritten. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #11

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. I still find it strange that shithole's testing for COVID-19 found. . .
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:22 AM
Aug 2020

Gov. DeWine positive when alas another test not from shithole's testing found him negative within days . .


Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
2. I can imagine my former Trump-humping coworkers...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:26 AM
Aug 2020

... screaming that DeWine is a "RINO" over this, as they did months ago over him taking the pandemic seriously at all.

dware

(12,399 posts)
5. Re-writing an amendment is not as easy as you think,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:52 AM
Aug 2020

the Founding Fathers purposely made it very difficult to amend/change the Constitution,

You need 2/3 of the Congress to even agree to open a Constitutional Convention and if that happens, then all the Amendments are open to change/repeal, not just the 2A.

Even if, somehow, it was just the 2A that was on the block and was modified/repealed, once again, it would take 2/3 of the Congress and 3/4 of the states to ratify it, that means that 13 states can scuttle any change to the Constitution.

Still want to go for that change/modification?

With appox 400 million firearms in private hands, with most states not requiring registration of said firearms, then how would one go about taking away guns without starting Civil War II?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
6. Who thought it was easy?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:30 PM
Aug 2020

No one thinks it's easy. It's on the far edge of possible. It's a hypothetical.

We're stuck in this situation where using a gun is now a 1st option for most altercations among the general (male) populace, precisely because we are saturated in guns.

It will be generations before the 2nd is repealed or amended to be rational. None of us old fucks will live to see anything but this high tide of gun craziness.

dware

(12,399 posts)
7. Can't argue with what you say,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:25 PM
Aug 2020

but, just how many Americans know just how much possible danger there is to the Constitution by convening a Constitutional Convention?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. Hartmann needs to rethink his "regulate guns like cars" idea
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:10 PM
Aug 2020

1. We register cars for tax purposes. It serves no role in safety. 2. No insurance company pays out for criminal acts. Victims of gun crime will get big checks from an insurance company - no company would open themselves up to paying for a Sandy Hook or Las Vegas.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
11. It doesn't need rewritten.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:57 AM
Aug 2020

For nearly 200 years no court in the land construed the second amendment to mean that individuals had the right to bear arms. It wasn't until Nixon got to pack the court that things changed. It was all about politics. All we have to do is change the court. This could be done by normal means in 4-8 years or by enlarging the court, which Congress has the right to do. As Ambrose Bierce defined a judge:A lawyer with a politician friend. Seriously, the number of Supreme Court justices has varied in our history. The whole gun thing was a shill to get money from the gun lobby and the Rubes in my opinion. Just like the "pro-life" BS.When I was young the NRA thought that all guns should be registered and controlled.

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