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denem

(11,045 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:08 PM Aug 2020

Oklahoma teen who tested positive still attended school, officials say

Source: Washington Post,

An Oklahoma teen who tested positive for the coronavirus but did not show any symptoms attended the first day of classes, officials say.

Moore Public Schools public information officer Dawn Jones told KFOR that the teen thought being asymptomatic was a reason to attend school and that the parents had miscalculated the end of their child’s quarantine time.

Administrators became aware of the coronavirus-positive student after receiving an anonymous tip, Jones told the news station.

Moore High School, another school in the same district, had two students and an athletic coach test positive, causing 22 other students who came into close contact with their infected peers to quarantine, according to KFOR. The coach received a positive test before school started and has not completed the recommended 14-day quarantine period.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/17/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/



Both high schools will undergo cleaning over the weekend before resuming classes on Monday.
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Oklahoma teen who tested positive still attended school, officials say (Original Post) denem Aug 2020 OP
testing asymptomatic positive has some benefits at140 Aug 2020 #1
"Asymptomatic" doesn't mean "immune" PSPS Aug 2020 #11
Asymptomatic means........it is so simple I am shocked a smart person like you at140 Aug 2020 #16
"Asymptomatic" here really means "pre-symptomatic" PSPS Aug 2020 #17
My Caribbean cruise ended early March at140 Aug 2020 #18
I'm happy for you. I hope you're wearng a mask when your out doing the activities you describe. PSPS Aug 2020 #20
Yes, the pretty green mask sent free by Humana HMO! at140 Aug 2020 #21
Maybe you can volunteer at a hospital or a nursing home rainin Aug 2020 #27
My mom was asymptomatic EllieBC Aug 2020 #23
That's not even close to accurate NickB79 Aug 2020 #19
All that cleaning is Kabuki theatre. People aren't getting covid from surfaces, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #2
So true. marybourg Aug 2020 #3
Yup. It's in the human Exhale Budi Aug 2020 #4
But It's Easy & Makes It Appear They're Doing Something sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #5
Exactly - it's performative and easy. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #6
You don't really know that, do you? LisaL Aug 2020 #7
Transmission via surfaces is hypothetically possible, but The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #9
The experts in New Zealand are pretty sure the recent out break was NOT PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #15
Yup RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #8
Agreed! It's all bullshit. Initech Aug 2020 #10
Precisely. Did they upgrade their HVAC to include either HEPA or MERV 15 or better filters? PSPS Aug 2020 #12
I don't think you can say that for sure, yet. It will be years before we can be rainin Aug 2020 #28
I remember people here were railing Codeine Aug 2020 #30
They might as well hire Mary Mallon to cook in the school cafeteria Jose Garcia Aug 2020 #13
The Trumpanzees wanted their schools (free babysitting) opened. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #14
Since the school had an entirely on-line option, Igel Aug 2020 #26
I was thinking about the old "making an example" of them. CaptYossarian Aug 2020 #31
You can't get a test, even if you have symptoms. BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #22
Depends where you live. Igel Aug 2020 #24
Send your tests to San Diego and Montana BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #25
A very dear friend has five family members who are teachers in the OK schools. niyad Aug 2020 #29

at140

(6,110 posts)
1. testing asymptomatic positive has some benefits
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:11 PM
Aug 2020

such as creating T-cells in body to immunize future infections.

at140

(6,110 posts)
16. Asymptomatic means........it is so simple I am shocked a smart person like you
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:29 PM
Aug 2020

did not get it...it means no serious symptoms, no hospitalization, no trauma,
and yet great chance of acquiring immunity from future infections.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
17. "Asymptomatic" here really means "pre-symptomatic"
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:37 PM
Aug 2020

And even if one ends up not having serious symptoms after the virus has incubated, it doesn't make one "immune" from the organ damage and blood clotting it will do as the years go by.

at140

(6,110 posts)
18. My Caribbean cruise ended early March
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
Aug 2020

It was jam packed crowded and me and my wife had a ton of fun.
However after disembarking, we both had this strange dry cough.
Very unusual because I always get a productive cough.
Other than that I had no other symptoms.
My wife was more tired than usual.

AT the time in early March, it never dawned on us it could have been covid-19.
Looking back I am more convinced we had a mild infection.
It had to be...there were 1500 people from SE Asia on the crowded ship, almost all of the crew.

I have done all my activities since March...shopping in stores, eating in restaurants (all open in Florida),
visit cancer hospital every 3 weeks, visit my HMO doctor and eye doctor, beach walks, and Gym 6 times every week.
Guess what, not even a hint of sickness for me. I must have acquired immunity.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
20. I'm happy for you. I hope you're wearng a mask when your out doing the activities you describe.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 04:43 PM
Aug 2020

rainin

(3,011 posts)
27. Maybe you can volunteer at a hospital or a nursing home
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:58 PM
Aug 2020

or donate antibodies. However, if the presence of antibodies hasn't actually been confirmed by a blood test, you may be playing Russian roulette

EllieBC

(3,016 posts)
23. My mom was asymptomatic
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:37 PM
Aug 2020

for 5 weeks. She’s in a long term care home in NYS, albeit the short term section. They were forced to make a Covid ward and accept patients (thanks, Cuomo). She never had any symptoms. But 5 tests said she was positive.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
19. That's not even close to accurate
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:53 PM
Aug 2020

You didnt read about the German study that found noticeable heart damage even in asymptomatic COVID patients?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,743 posts)
2. All that cleaning is Kabuki theatre. People aren't getting covid from surfaces,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:12 PM
Aug 2020

they're getting it from infected people who breathe/talk/cough on or near them. Cleaning is a good thing but people seem to think that once a place is cleaned it will be safe to go back there. But it won't be safe no how thoroughly it gets cleaned if there are other people there who are positive and disregard quarantine.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
5. But It's Easy & Makes It Appear They're Doing Something
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:24 PM
Aug 2020

Window dressing, that's what's important to them. Not so much preventing spread of the virus.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. You don't really know that, do you?
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Aug 2020

New Zealand recent outbreak might have started because of a contaminated packaging send from other countries.
So please don't claim people aren't getting covid from surfaces.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,743 posts)
9. Transmission via surfaces is hypothetically possible, but
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:38 PM
Aug 2020

the EU's health organization has not documented any actual cases of transmission through fomites (surfaces).

Currently available evidence indicates that COVID-19 may be transmitted from person to person through several different routes. In the scoping review published by La Rosa et al [51], the human coronaviruses primary transmission mode is person-to-person contact through respiratory droplets generated by breathing, sneezing, coughing, etc., as well as contact (direct contact with an infected subject or indirect contact, trough hand-mediated transfer of the virus from contaminated fomites to the mouth, nose, or eyes). Infection is understood to be mainly transmitted via large respiratory droplets containing the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Transmission through aerosols has also been implicated but the relative role of large droplets and aerosols is still unclear. Indirect transmission through fomites that have been contaminated by respiratory secretions is considered possible, although, so far, transmission through fomites has not been documented.
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/latest-evidence/transmission

That's not to say surfaces should not be cleaned, because of course they should. What I am saying is that cleaning is not a substitute for social distancing, masks, testing and quarantining, because the virus is primarily transmitted by aerosols and droplets from other humans rather than surfaces. I don't want to hear that a place is safe to be in just because it's been cleaned, if the other people in that place aren't doing the things that prevent person-to-person transmission - which is the way you are likely to get it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
15. The experts in New Zealand are pretty sure the recent out break was NOT
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:12 PM
Aug 2020

from a contaminated package.

If people really were getting this from surfaces, nearly everyone in this country would have gotten it by now. So claiming that's how it spreads is misleading, to say the least.

And pull your mask up over your nose.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. Agreed! It's all bullshit.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:47 PM
Aug 2020

The plexiglass, the deep cleanings, the stench of lemon-scented wipes everywhere, the temperature screenings, it's all meaningless for a virus that's transmitted by breath.

While you're checking for fevers and deep cleaning, someone could get in with symptoms that you're unaware of, and really do some damage.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
28. I don't think you can say that for sure, yet. It will be years before we can be
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:04 PM
Aug 2020

certain about relative risk of certain modes of transmission. In the meantime, I think this measure is appropriate. It's unfortunate if it's giving people the message that the building is now safe. Air needs to be pulled into the outdoors rather than circulated along with masking, social distancing, and hand washing. Short of doing that, cleaning won't do much good

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. I remember people here were railing
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:18 PM
Aug 2020

about how we should be hosing down streets and sidewalks like the Chinese. All that stuff is for show.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
14. The Trumpanzees wanted their schools (free babysitting) opened.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:45 PM
Aug 2020

But sometimes free isn't free.

Let's hope the families of those who contract the virus sue these parents who lamely "miscalculated" the quarantine time.

They can sue for medical costs, missed work, transportation to and from the clinic, etc. Lawyers are a necessary evil.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
26. Since the school had an entirely on-line option,
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:53 PM
Aug 2020

probably not.

https://kfor.com/news/covid-19-school-plan/tensions-high-as-moore-public-schools-decides-to-start-in-person-class-thursday/

My district has the same options. Maybe 60% of students are online only. The others are going to be in person, if classes start as planned. But anybody who sends their kids to school will know both the precautions taken as well as the possibility (I'd say "probability&quot that at some point the school will be closed for cleaning and some students/staff quarantined.

They erred, he erred. Don't see malice or even obvious negligence.

Those most at risk would be those not wearing masks. Even if the dweeb who went to school during quarantine had still been infectious (which is probably doubtful at this point, but possible).

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
31. I was thinking about the old "making an example" of them.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:49 PM
Aug 2020

Half of our citizens are all Trumped up. They aren't taking any of this seriously, except for what they think are their "rights". They're living proof that half of all people have a lower than average IQ. That 100 figure keeps moving in the wrong direction.

What about those of us who are immune compromised? We should have rights too. I have a wife who's a teacher (without an option) and a high schooler still at home. If Billy Bob gives it to either one, I'm a goner--and so are about 10-15% of us. That's not counting people over 60 who don't deserve it either.

Maybe Der Fuehrer doesn't take responsibility (except for a slice that goes into the woods), but someone had better take some.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
22. You can't get a test, even if you have symptoms.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:11 PM
Aug 2020

I am experiencing this right now. You have to be at death's door to even get an appointment since there is such a huge shortage of tests (the manager at a nationwide pharmacy told me this earlier today since I was about to cry out of frustration). He told me to lie, so I did. Now I am finally getting tested tomorrow (5 days of fever, chills,aches, extreme fatigue, etc.). The fucking moron DID THIS ON PURPOSE! Murderer!

Igel

(35,320 posts)
24. Depends where you live.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:43 PM
Aug 2020

Local health agencies are complaining that they have testing capacity but fewer people are seeking testing.

niyad

(113,370 posts)
29. A very dear friend has five family members who are teachers in the OK schools.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 06:12 PM
Aug 2020

She is worried sick about them, and I have no real words of reassurance to offer her. All I can do is offer a sympathetic ear. Her SO is in a locked-down care facility here, where one of the staff just tested positive.

Damn that f'n traitorous murderer.

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