Record melt: Greenland lost 586 billion tons of ice in 2019
Source: AP
By SETH BORENSTEIN
Greenland lost a record amount of ice during an extra warm 2019, with the melt massive enough to cover California in more than four feet (1.25 meters) of water, a new study said.
After two years when summer ice melt had been minimal, last summer shattered all records with 586 billion tons (532 billion metric tons) of ice melting, according to satellite measurements reported in a study Thursday. Thats more than 140 trillion gallons (532 trillion liters) of water.
Thats far more than the yearly average loss of 259 billion tons (235 billion metric tons) since 2003 and easily surpasses the old record of 511 billion tons (464 billion metric tons) in 2012, said a study in Communications Earth & Environment. The study showed that in the 20th century, there were many years when Greenland gained ice.
Not only is the Greenland ice sheet melting, but its melting at a faster and faster pace, said study lead author Ingo Sasgen, a geoscientist at the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany.
FILE - In this Aug. 16, 2019 file photo, a woman stands next to an antenna at an NYU base camp at the Helheim glacier in Greenland. According to a study released on Thursday, Aug. 20, 2020, Greenland lost a record amount of ice during an extra warm 2019, with the melt massive enough to cover California in more than four feet (1.25 meters) of water. (AP Photo/Felipe Dana)
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iluvtennis
(19,868 posts)NNadir
(33,541 posts)...solar cells on the roofs of McMansions are saving the day. Why, some of them might even be "efficient" lead iodide perovskites soon.
We all need to continue to cheer loudly.
Personally, I've been hearing this sort of thing for many years, decades actually, and am unimpressed, but I get in some trouble when I say as much.
History will not forgive us, nor should it.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)It is sad that even on DU these issues get so few views, likes, or comments. It is quite distressing.
I clicked on this one hoping to find some discussion, but...
NNadir
(33,541 posts)...and thus the issue is treated with lip service and genuflections toward the so called "green new deal" which is neither green nor new nor much of a deal since um, it hasn't worked, isn't working and won't work. Addressing climate change is a very serious engineering challenge and frankly much of our rhetoric on the subject involves wishful thinking.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)Problem is that we'll never get the world to work together, we can't get the country to work together, heck even the Cousteau's can't work together, they've all got their own dang organization!
I'm almost thinking the engineering would be far easier than the social engineering necessary for the engineering to work.
Kaleva
(36,333 posts)There's a great deal of info on the internet, backed by sound science, that details the effects climate change will have on various regions so there really isn't any excuse for not preparing now.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)when my parents told me "college, college, college...", well to them at the time, college was a golden ticket. By the time I finished everyone had one, but that was what my parents knew.
Now I'm not so sure if I should prepare kids for college, or teach them to forage for acorns in the woods. I don't know how much longer our social fabric will last or where to go as it begins to fray.
Kaleva
(36,333 posts)The effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world or even in the the US.
Where I live, winters are expected to be shorter and more mild, growing season longer and summers wetter.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Population control.
There are simply too many people on the planet.
Humans have become a blight on this planet. We continue to destroy the only known biosphere in the universe. As a species, we just ain't that bright.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Thats when the real fun will begin.
NNadir
(33,541 posts)...anyone who is willing to commit suicide for the cause.
The world abandoned so called "renewable energy" in the early 19th century on the grounds that most people - even more so than today - lived short miserable lives of dire poverty. That population was 1/7th of what we have today.
The belief that we can survive on so called "renewable energy" is therefore not progressive; it is reactionary, and, in fact, highly elitist.
I ask people who believe that the answer is only population control, who the six people among any group of 7 are who must die so we can all live sustainably. No one ever answers; they just behave as if I am nuts.
We know, by observation, that the countries with the lowest birth rates are precisely those where people are secure in their homes, have health care, education, food and useful work. Many companies like Japan, Finland and others have birth rates below the replacement rate.
The world as of 2018, was consuming just shy of 600 exajoules of energy, dominated by growing amounts of dangerous fossil fuels. Coal, and not so called "renewable energy" has been the fastest growing source of energy on this planet in the 21st century.
The reason that people use dangerous fossil fuels is their high energy to mass ratio.
Were we to raise the energy efficiency of our energy systems, I have convinced myself, after many, many, many years of difficult study, that we could conceivably achieve human development goals on 600 exajoules of energy per year, perhaps even less. The laws of thermodynamics dictate - they cannot be repealed by a legislature or even a dictator - that the highest efficiency is achieved with the highest temperatures.
A caveat to high efficiency energy as a saving grace is Jevon's paradox, which must be addressed, perhaps by regulation.
The fuel with the highest energy densities, capable of running at the highest temperatures are all the actinides. We have mined (and in many cases discarded) enough uranium and thorium to supply all the world's energy needs for centuries to come. Uranium, in particular, is inexhaustible. We have accumulated prodigious amounts of plutonium, neptunium and americium. We have grown to hate the use of actinides on the left, and do so for highly irrational reasons, holding them to a standard of "safety" that we attach to no other form of energy. Seven million people each year die from combustion waste known as "air pollution" and still we are concerned about so called "nuclear waste" about which in general, very few opponents of it know a damned thing. The reality is that so called "nuclear waste" hasn't killed anyone for decades, and almost all of its components are valuable.
If we want a sustainable world - and I believe it is a crime against all future generations that we have done nothing effective to build one - 6 out of 7 of us can volunteer to commit suicide - which won't happen, everyone thinks they should be #7 who survives = or we can think.
Since we refuse to think and refuse to identify the six people who must be killed we have little hope of ethically building a sustainable world. Here in the US, we think the problem is Trump. Trump is a problem, one of the worst people ever to have held any power, but if we really, really, really, really want to find the culprits for this tragic outcome of the human condition, the best device for doing so would be a mirror.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)One of them or a mix of them.
Its coming. Deep down we all know it.
NNadir
(33,541 posts)...will happen need happen.
I am a realist, but I am not a cynic.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)It is as constant as stars in the heavens.
NNadir
(33,541 posts)...why bother posting anything anywhere?
It's the end of the world, no?
Shouldn't you just give up and take up drinking or whatever it is that fatalists do.
The alternative, which I embrace, is to care about the future. I suspect that when cultures fall, it is because people don't care about the future.
Kaleva
(36,333 posts)marie999
(3,334 posts)As bad as he is, he is not as bad as climate change. Yes, we need to vote him out of office, but I am not sure that we can do enough over the next 50 years to make life livable for humanity. No, climate change won't kill everyone, but it is going to make life worse than anything else has ever done.
Kaleva
(36,333 posts)The chance for addressing climate change passed several decades ago when the measures needed to be taken wouldn't have been that disruptive. Now, we need extreme measures and I don't believe humans, as a whole, have the stomach for that.
Delphinus
(11,840 posts)And good to see the discussion here in LBN.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)The extreme measures are coming. Mother Nature is not nice when she is pissed off.
MissMillie
(38,578 posts).