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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:21 PM Aug 2020

Kellyanne Conway to leave the White House at the end of the month, citing the need to focus on her f

Source: Washington Post

Kellyanne Conway to leave the White House at the end of the month, citing the need to focus on her family

Kellyanne Conway, a senior adviser to President Trump and one of his longest-serving aides, is leaving the White House at the end of the month.

Conway, whose title is counselor to the president, was Trump’s third campaign manager in 2016 and the first woman to successfully manage a presidential campaign to victory. She joined the White House at the start of Trump’s term and has been one of his most visible and vocal defenders.
Conway informed Trump of her decision Sunday night in the Oval Office.

Her husband George T. Conway III, a conservative lawyer and outspoken critic of the president, is also stepping back from his role on the Lincoln Project, an outside group of Republicans devoted to defeating Trump in November. He will also take a hiatus from Twitter, the venue he has often used to attack the president.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/kellyanne-conway-white-house/2020/08/23/6c26e18a-e5a7-11ea-bc79-834454439a44_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-high_conway-0823%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

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Kellyanne Conway to leave the White House at the end of the month, citing the need to focus on her f (Original Post) herding cats Aug 2020 OP
"Focus on her family"!! That's hysterical. George II Aug 2020 #1
Best guess here, her daughter's teenage angst was staged. herding cats Aug 2020 #12
I first thought it was marital trouble. calimary Aug 2020 #56
Too easy if I were to guess. herding cats Aug 2020 #61
No way it could be staged... forkol Aug 2020 #111
Welcome to DU, forkol! calimary Aug 2020 #136
Kellyanne Conway's daughter Claudia, 15, says she's seeking emancipation TomCADem Aug 2020 #80
I have compassion for the daughter. she had to be super smart. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #94
Carvilles had two daughters, now college-age. No Vested Interest Aug 2020 #114
Thanks. wonder if they're on Instagram.. . SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2020 #134
Gee, it's terrible so many kids of Obama's WH staff ran away and asked for emancipation. Oh, wait! machoneman Aug 2020 #132
Wish I had done that! Bravo to Claudia but what about Dad? Illumination Aug 2020 #118
I'm sure that had a lot to do with it, but a good caring parent wouldn't have allowed it.... George II Aug 2020 #125
Yes of course & lots of time to write a book!... Illumination Aug 2020 #119
LOL fuck her Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #2
Who wants to bet that conspiracy-minded Trump decided he couldn't "trust" her? brooklynite Aug 2020 #3
Isn't end of the month....like next week? Pachamama Aug 2020 #4
I suspect there's a sinking ship paranoid floyd Aug 2020 #5
It's what rats do. christx30 Aug 2020 #102
Who says young people can't change things....Anyone who has read the Conway kids social media Pachamama Aug 2020 #6
Hey Kellyanne, don't expect your daughter to forgive you if tRump is reelected rainin Aug 2020 #7
That's right! Now Dad needs to divorce her! Turn those screws! Illumination Aug 2020 #117
Rats leaving a sinking ship. trump has to know it's over now. brush Aug 2020 #8
She doesn't want to be associated with losing-- dawg day Aug 2020 #29
She doesn't want to be associated with losing? AZ8theist Aug 2020 #105
Maybe she has decided that she has milked the job for all it is worth. olddad65 Aug 2020 #107
Maybe she has decided that she has milked the job for all it is worth. olddad65 Aug 2020 #108
Perhaps to do with daughter seeking emancipation? SheltieLover Aug 2020 #9
I think so. The husband, George, wrote on Twitter fleur-de-lisa Aug 2020 #21
Poor kid! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #31
Yes i think so. Wow, she actually asked AOC to adopt her onetexan Aug 2020 #60
AOC would be a great mom & super role model! Illumination Aug 2020 #120
Wait Until It all comes out SoFlaJet Aug 2020 #10
Kellyanne Conway's Daughter Claudia Pushing For Emancipation Gothmog Aug 2020 #11
I'm thinking it was staged. herding cats Aug 2020 #20
I have had the same thoughts JI7 Aug 2020 #28
It feels obvious to me. herding cats Aug 2020 #38
In one of her videos she actually said how her parents were great JI7 Aug 2020 #62
Wow. I would have liked to do that myself -- dawg day Aug 2020 #34
I had read about that, but the only sources were some that I consider questionable. Arkansas Granny Aug 2020 #42
you start out looking like that lapfog_1 Aug 2020 #115
I think her 15 yo daughter just announced she was suing her for emancipation. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #13
Maybe there will be 3 more books coming out soon? Illumination Aug 2020 #121
From Counselor to Trump to family counseling? OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #14
George Conway is withdrawing from the Lincoln Project also Gothmog Aug 2020 #15
Makes sense....the daughter was definitely having issues. Best for them OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #18
Family needs to come first Gothmog Aug 2020 #19
This is weird- dawg day Aug 2020 #44
I think she is a drama queen Skittles Aug 2020 #92
We shall see... Illumination Aug 2020 #122
I'm extremely cynical anymore. herding cats Aug 2020 #30
From the Conway family prospective OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #43
Their public faces are not their private faces. herding cats Aug 2020 #47
Then, well done to the Conways! OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #51
I'm thinking this is the case. herding cats Aug 2020 #52
Really? OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #57
Sure. herding cats Aug 2020 #73
Emancipation was a stupid word to use. She's 15 YO. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #74
Not buying it. herding cats Aug 2020 #77
Why is that a stupid word to use? whopis01 Aug 2020 #78
Yeah, right...because when we think of emancipation we think of the Conway household situation. nt OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #81
If the daughter is seeking emancipation, then she is seeking emancipation whopis01 Aug 2020 #84
See my comment 81. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #90
Emancipation of a minor is a legal term in our law. n/t whopis01 Aug 2020 #95
It's a legal term. herding cats Aug 2020 #89
It is and was. herding cats Aug 2020 #87
Oh, and you cannot leave your family due to their political beliefs. herding cats Aug 2020 #86
Whatever. This young lady is a slave. She needs to be emancipated. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #93
M'kay. herding cats Aug 2020 #97
Not trying to be rude, but you denigrate the term Emancipation where you assign the same meaning of OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #99
After the last post I replied to of your's I'm done speaking to you. herding cats Aug 2020 #101
OK, me too, Cat Herder! OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #103
No cat fights please! Illumination Aug 2020 #123
Oh, and, they're both extreme conservatives. herding cats Aug 2020 #76
n't really argue that. Maybe this was choreographed and following long-term script. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #79
You're not listening to me here. herding cats Aug 2020 #91
Or, they will have a horrible family confrontation where everyone has an AR-15 and someone OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #96
You may need to reach out to some trusted loved ones. herding cats Aug 2020 #98
Thanks Doc. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #100
No cat fights please! Illumination Aug 2020 #124
Well with her daughter all over twitter claim she has been traumatized and abused, I vsrazdem Aug 2020 #16
I saw those tweets about abuse SheltieLover Aug 2020 #36
I would be surprised if they do not get involved. vsrazdem Aug 2020 #37
Me too SheltieLover Aug 2020 #45
I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't already been involved. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #106
Of course, it's not just parents who can abuse. dawg day Aug 2020 #55
I agree SheltieLover Aug 2020 #58
Can you imagine growing up in that family? Ugh! Illumination Aug 2020 #126
And the band played on....nice deck chairs we got here, move them around a bit before ya go, thx Baclava Aug 2020 #17
Like ComradeInArms Aug 2020 #22
Kellyanne comes from a MOB family. Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #23
Interesting SheltieLover Aug 2020 #46
Trump was mob-adjacent- dawg day Aug 2020 #63
Someone Better Protect Claudia Then and Maybe This is Deeper Than One Think.... LovingA2andMI Aug 2020 #75
Daughters emancipation last straw Pisces Aug 2020 #24
Something is afoot, Sherlock. Joinfortmill Aug 2020 #25
Uh oh. There goes her "loyalty." PSPS Aug 2020 #26
Loyalty? The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #54
The problem is that she's a compulsive liar jmbar2 Aug 2020 #82
She is a specialist in "Alternative facts". keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #113
She got canned. No way she went willingly. mahina Aug 2020 #27
15 year old daughter suing for emancipation TDale313 Aug 2020 #59
I'm familiar thanks mahina Aug 2020 #65
Mostly, I just feel for the daughter. TDale313 Aug 2020 #72
Mika B. banned KAC from Morning Joe back three years ago, saying "All she says are lies." CTyankee Aug 2020 #131
I wonder if this has something to do with the daughter becoming more public. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #32
Daughter alleged years of abuse SheltieLover Aug 2020 #48
Kellyanne doesn't strick me as someone who would be a kind & loving parent! Illumination Aug 2020 #127
Me either! SheltieLover Aug 2020 #130
I will miss George but certainly not miss Kellyanne!! riversedge Aug 2020 #33
That a good idea since their daughter appears to hate both of them right now. nt Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #35
Can you imagine SheltieLover Aug 2020 #49
No I cannot. Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #69
Ikr? SheltieLover Aug 2020 #71
posted in lowercase dweller Aug 2020 #39
She needs to save her relationship with her daughter. Gore1FL Aug 2020 #40
If there's verbal & physical abuse, etc. their relationship may never be "saved"! Illumination Aug 2020 #128
It seems like a sad time for all in their family The empressof all Aug 2020 #41
Daughter alleges years of abuse SheltieLover Aug 2020 #50
Yes It's heartbreaking The empressof all Aug 2020 #85
Videos, too? SheltieLover Aug 2020 #88
Good riddance - you will not be missed. Marie Marie Aug 2020 #53
Not a equitable trade flying-skeleton Aug 2020 #64
Who? LakeArenal Aug 2020 #66
For three years she carried the traitor's water and she got paid in taxpayer dollars turbinetree Aug 2020 #67
Which of them will be writing the book? Tech Aug 2020 #68
That's EXACTLY what I've been wondering!..Seems to be a money making trend! Illumination Aug 2020 #116
With such established liars and grifters, I would need public appearances with hostile RockRaven Aug 2020 #70
Easy answer: the GOP came up with the $$$ demanded by the Conways! In return for BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #83
This. denbot Aug 2020 #104
must've been told speaknow Aug 2020 #109
More like she doubts Trump will be able to win so she is off to seek further celebrity probably by cstanleytech Aug 2020 #110
You might be right about this continuing W.H. daily "soap opera"! Illumination Aug 2020 #129
wow Kali Aug 2020 #112
So, she's stepping down from lying to the nation to spend more time lying to her family? LudwigPastorius Aug 2020 #133
Good (and way overdue) riddance. Paladin Aug 2020 #135

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
12. Best guess here, her daughter's teenage angst was staged.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:28 PM
Aug 2020

It was her neat exit.

Toodles! Bye, Titanic!

calimary

(81,283 posts)
56. I first thought it was marital trouble.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:02 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:33 PM - Edit history (1)

But their teenage daughter wanting emancipation?

Sheesh, no wonder both parents want to check out for awhile and work on family issues.

And the daughter hates trump? Must have been fun around that house.

Man, everything that bastard touches dies. Keeps gaining new meaning.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
61. Too easy if I were to guess.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:09 PM
Aug 2020

That would have surfaced years ago. They're both extremely vocal people.

This isn't year one, or even two here. This is well into the halfway point if year 3 and Trump's re-election.

This smells like strategy to me.

Yes, I'm a political cynic anymore. But, I've been watching for their exit and I truly think this is their out. This is how they (sans some post fake drama,) come out as a family again and reassume their politics status.

forkol

(113 posts)
111. No way it could be staged...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:18 AM
Aug 2020

If your exit relies on your daughter alleging that you physically abused her.

Once that has been alleged against her, KAC had no choice but to quit the Trump campaign. Every media appearance you made for the campaign, could be overshadowed by you being asked about your family situation. Even worse, you're damaged goods for any other campaign down the line. Even if the daughter recanted, nobody would want to publicly employ you.

My reading of this: I believe the daughter. Given her mother's family background and KAC's seemingly ascerbic ways with the press, KAC has always come across to me as the literal personification of 'Mommy Dearest'.

As for George, I think he has been the absentee father, who probably pulled away from his wife some time ago, but wanted to keep it together 'for the sake of the kid(s)'. I suspect given his status, he left much of his daughter's care and support to KAC, and has never really bonded with her (similar to what I think Barron is going through). I think the daughter would be okay if she had him to fall back on, but she feels abandoned by both parents and so figures why not go for emancipation? I really, really hope they all can come to a happy place at some point in their lives.

I think it's also indicative how much angst this President has caused between family and friends. The Conway's are a microcosm of what's playing out across the country with our own families and personal relationships.

calimary

(81,283 posts)
136. Welcome to DU, forkol!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:56 PM
Aug 2020

Well, the GOP operative Rick Wilson wrote the book titled "Everything Trump Touches Dies: A Republican Strategist Gets Real about the Worst President Ever". And it looks like the Conway family is just another group of casualties on an ever-growing list.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
80. Kellyanne Conway's daughter Claudia, 15, says she's seeking emancipation
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:59 PM
Aug 2020
https://www.today.com/news/kellyanne-conway-s-daughter-claudia-conway-15-says-she-s-t190044

Claudia Conway, the 15-year-old daughter of Kellyanne Conway, counselor to President Trump, is seeking emancipation from her parents, she said on social media.

On Saturday night, after allegedly learning that her mother will speak at the Republican National Convention this week, the teen tweeted,"I’m (devastated) that my mother is actually speaking at the RNC. like DEVASTATED beyond compare."

In a follow-up post, she wrote: "i’m officially pushing for emancipation. buckle up because this is probably going to be public one way or another, unfortunately. welcome to my life."

* * *
"Just found out my mom is a speaker at the RNC...that's it. i'm out. running away phase 1 starts tomorrow at 7 am," she wrote on the video.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
132. Gee, it's terrible so many kids of Obama's WH staff ran away and asked for emancipation. Oh, wait!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:56 AM
Aug 2020

None ever did, now did they?

Hah!

George II

(67,782 posts)
125. I'm sure that had a lot to do with it, but a good caring parent wouldn't have allowed it....
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:50 AM
Aug 2020

....to reach that stage.

If she cared about her family she would have done this a year or two ago. It's not like the differences between her and George Conway have been a big secret.

One can only look at John Avlon and Margaret Hoover to see how to handle ideological differences. They get along great together, no family issues.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
6. Who says young people can't change things....Anyone who has read the Conway kids social media
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
Aug 2020

...knows that they sure can...

rainin

(3,011 posts)
7. Hey Kellyanne, don't expect your daughter to forgive you if tRump is reelected
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
Aug 2020

She will hate you for the rest of your life and the rest of hers. Every cruel thing he does will be on you. Count on it!

brush

(53,782 posts)
8. Rats leaving a sinking ship. trump has to know it's over now.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
Aug 2020

Whatever we think about her, she's no dummy and know it's hopeless.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
29. She doesn't want to be associated with losing--
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:36 PM
Aug 2020

And notice, she is NOT going to the campaign at all.
Rat! Desert!

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
60. Yes i think so. Wow, she actually asked AOC to adopt her
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:07 PM
Aug 2020
https://nypost.com/article/who-is-claudia-conway-meet-kellyanne-conways-outspoken-daughter/

"The teen also tweeted asking Ocasio-Cortez to “adopt” her." Actually that wouldn't be such a bad thing. Kid idolizes AOC LOL

Well it's no surprise she is at a crossroads given the strange dynamics in that family where the parents' political views are diametrically opposed. I don't see her parents' marriage lasting as we've been witnessing it implode for a long time now.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
10. Wait Until It all comes out
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
Aug 2020

That Kelly Anne has been a source of so many leaks that came from the Trump den of lies. For 1 thing there's no WAY her and George would be able to stay together this long had they been that diametrically opposed to a candidacy and administration.

I never forgot KAC complaining very early y on how hard it was to have to stand up out there and lie every day.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
20. I'm thinking it was staged.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:31 PM
Aug 2020

Teenage angst is an easy excuse to bail. This has been weeks they've made an escalating public story out of this issue. They're not stupid people.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
38. It feels obvious to me.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:44 PM
Aug 2020

People like this have much more control over their children than we normal people do.

She'd be denied college monies, social status to get into college, and much much more down the line she will untimely end up relying on to advance in life.

Wait for it, they all reconcile and all will be well again.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
62. In one of her videos she actually said how her parents were great
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:14 PM
Aug 2020

and told people not to say bad things about them.

The fact I see a lot of Kellyanne's act as performance art is another reason I feel this way.

I do believe the true feelings of the Conway couple is that both are Conservative but they both hate Trump .

This is kind of a chance for Kellyanne to leave the Trump admin and for them to move on with their life.

People might have more sympathy and the focus would be on their family more than the joke Kellyanne had become while working for Trump.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
34. Wow. I would have liked to do that myself --
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:39 PM
Aug 2020

But she's only 15. They're never going to allow that.

I knew someone who did get emancipation that early, but her parents had abandoned her, and she was worried she'd be put in the foster system. She already had a job and was renting a spare room from a friend. But that was a dire situation.

Then again, if my mom worked for Trump, I'd want to get the hell out too.

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
42. I had read about that, but the only sources were some that I consider questionable.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:48 PM
Aug 2020

I seem to recall earlier this summer reports that KAC wouldn't allow her access to social media because she was dissing the family.

Teenagers can be difficult to deal with at times, but something about this feels like a set up to me. I suppose time will tell.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
115. you start out looking like that
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:12 AM
Aug 2020

but fill your heart with hate and lies and you end up looking like this


Midnight Writer

(21,768 posts)
13. I think her 15 yo daughter just announced she was suing her for emancipation.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:28 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe she does need to focus on her family.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
14. From Counselor to Trump to family counseling?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:29 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe, that family seems to be falling apart. Think of the book she could write when she gets out of deprogramming....

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
18. Makes sense....the daughter was definitely having issues. Best for them
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:30 PM
Aug 2020

to shut it down and figure it out.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
44. This is weird-
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:50 PM
Aug 2020

Claudia Conway twitter-- y’all love to twist everything - i’m not getting emancipated because of my mom’s job.. it is because of years of childhood trauma and abuse
>>>>


Huh???

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
30. I'm extremely cynical anymore.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:36 PM
Aug 2020

This is a hard sell. At least to me.

He literally has no hands on at this point. He's symbolic at best there. He has zero talent to offer to their campaign at this point, he's just a high profile name due to Kellyanne.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
43. From the Conway family prospective
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:49 PM
Aug 2020

George was anti-Trump....but have no idea what his relationship was with his daughter.
KellyAnne was pro-Trump..but no idea what her relationship was with her daughter.

Imagine this daughter, with 2 high profile political opposites. How would you, at 15, handle this? Not well, I;m afraid.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
47. Their public faces are not their private faces.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:52 PM
Aug 2020

How else do you think they've stayed together these years?

This isn't real. It's well orchestrated, high end theater. Much faux drama will ensue. Then all will be pretty again.

This is her exit plan, and it appears his as well. They're going back to the fold of the mainstream Republicans. Post Trump.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
51. Then, well done to the Conways!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:55 PM
Aug 2020

They managed to play both sides and the 15YO was all in with the script.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
57. Really?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:02 PM
Aug 2020

Carville and Maitlin had no kids, so they could both play to their political preference. Don't think it's the same with the Conways....the 15 YO was obviously going nuts caught between these two media animals.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
73. Sure.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:42 PM
Aug 2020

It's not them playing up their 15 year old as an excuse to go back to their lives.

We shall see because this is just the end of their first act. Which is what I was saying, and am still saying.

Rich kids don't seek to be emancipated. That's only we poor or working class kids who have nothing to lose and true gains to assume outside of our families. Oh, and a few child stars, which don't apply here.

None of this makes sense. Which is why I'm not buying it wholesale.

I emancipated myself at 16 so I could go to college without my parents consent. We were working class and my family didn't want me to leave home so young. This made sense for me to do such.

A 15 year old without outside college funds and in need of her families backing to get into a "good" university doing such suddenly, publicly on twitter, doesn't make much sense. At least not to me. It feels extremely fake. Time will tell, but as of now I'm not buying it.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
74. Emancipation was a stupid word to use. She's 15 YO.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:48 PM
Aug 2020

But she's finding herself in an untenable situation within her family life. She wanted out because it was driving her nuts. George and Kelleyanne seem to have realized it and they both made important decisions to re-devote themselves to their family. How it turns out, who knows?

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
84. If the daughter is seeking emancipation, then she is seeking emancipation
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:04 AM
Aug 2020

I realize that she just put it on twitter and have no idea if she has filed legal proceedings for it of course - but I still fail to see what is wrong with that term.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
90. See my comment 81.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:13 AM
Aug 2020

You are denigrating the term emancipation when you liken it to this poor girls's family situation. An upper middle=class+ family where she has no slavery implications to her plight.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
86. Oh, and you cannot leave your family due to their political beliefs.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:08 AM
Aug 2020

I do know this law. I've navigated it at a young age. When I saw this last night I knee jerk emphasized, and later dove into her claims. Then I literally rolled my eyes. She has no case for emancipation unless she wants to be placed in foster care. Trust me, that's not her end goal here.

This is a political stunt. Wait and see, this is literally how these people think.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
93. Whatever. This young lady is a slave. She needs to be emancipated.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:18 AM
Aug 2020

I could give a shit about the legal definition, the fact that we need to liberate her from her family life is a joke compared to what millions of people who dealt with the term on a whole different level (real fucking slavery). You can make your legal construct, but it is an insult that a lot of Americans would reject.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
97. M'kay.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:27 AM
Aug 2020

It's just what you want it to be, because that suits your feelings.

Got it.

Enter stage of being rude to me because I don't make you happy. Because of the law and facts and all that.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
99. Not trying to be rude, but you denigrate the term Emancipation where you assign the same meaning of
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:35 AM
Aug 2020

term to a family situation like the Conways to a whole class of people that lived under a systematic form of overt racism. But, legally, you are probably correct. So, technically, you win the argument.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
101. After the last post I replied to of your's I'm done speaking to you.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:38 AM
Aug 2020

I never advocate violence and also do not condone it. Not cool by any means.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
103. OK, me too, Cat Herder!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:43 AM
Aug 2020

Not sure who advocated violence in this back and forth. I just felt you were glossing over the term Emancipation by assigning this to a 15 YO with family issues. But. technically, I acknowledged you could be correct. Because, I am not a lawyer, nor pretend to be on DU.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
76. Oh, and, they're both extreme conservatives.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:54 PM
Aug 2020

There's one verbal anti Trump conservative, but they're not a liberal and a conservative. We have one conservative playing sane, and the other playing the unhinged level of the spectrum. Both are vocal conservatives.

Again, this is their exit strategy. Much drama will ensue, and they'll all reconcile. These people have no morals and using their children was literally their exit plan from day one.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
79. n't really argue that. Maybe this was choreographed and following long-term script.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:58 PM
Aug 2020

But, if so, the kid bailed on the plan. and now they are doing family damage control. Don't know, but it's fucked up that we even need to have this conversation.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
91. You're not listening to me here.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:16 AM
Aug 2020

No. I disagree. Watch. They'll all be whole again after a modicum of drama. By 2021 they'll be one, big loving family again.

Wait for it in, 3, 2, 1. All fake.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
96. Or, they will have a horrible family confrontation where everyone has an AR-15 and someone
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:25 AM
Aug 2020

accidentally pulls a trigger, starting an inter-family train-reaction of unintended consequences. Who knows?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
98. You may need to reach out to some trusted loved ones.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:34 AM
Aug 2020

No one says things like this who aren't emotionally in need of some support.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
16. Well with her daughter all over twitter claim she has been traumatized and abused, I
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:30 PM
Aug 2020

this it is quite about time for her to focus on her family along with the family counseling.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
36. I saw those tweets about abuse
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
Aug 2020

I wonder if protective services will be looking into this matter. Not sure about their state, but generally I'd think it would be required.

I hope the kid is ok.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
55. Of course, it's not just parents who can abuse.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:00 PM
Aug 2020

Coaches and other relatives also... well, no use speculating. I hope she's able to work with a counselor or mentor. She's really young for this.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
23. Kellyanne comes from a MOB family.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:33 PM
Aug 2020

She might know something about family abuse, too.

Kellyanne Conway's grandfather 'was a mobster nicknamed "The Brute" who ran a New Jersey gambling operation'

Kellyanne Conway, 49, is special counselor to President Donald Trump
Conway is also maternal granddaughter of a reputed New Jersey mobster
James DiNatale was said to have had ties to Philadelphia's Bruno crime family
'Jimmy the Brute' was said to be associate of Nicodemo 'Little Nicky' Scarfo
Scarfo was said to be the 'heir-apparent' to Philadephia's Bruno crime family

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
26. Uh oh. There goes her "loyalty."
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:35 PM
Aug 2020

Dear leader disdains being second in line on any subject's list of priorities.

keithbvadu2

(36,814 posts)
54. Loyalty? The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:58 PM
Aug 2020

Loyalty?

The largest book advance of all will be for Kellyanne when she is done with Trump.

She sold herself for money and fame, first with Cruz totally against Trump, and then switched over for more money and fame when Trump looked more favorable in the campaigns.

Her loyalty is for sale.

Was/is it irony when Kellyanne prostituted herself for money for Cruz or when she prostitutes herself for money for Trump?

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2016/08/19/here-s-how-trump-s-new-campaign-manager-attacked-him-cable-news-pundit/212524

jmbar2

(4,887 posts)
82. The problem is that she's a compulsive liar
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:01 AM
Aug 2020

Not a good persona to write a tell-all book. Wouldn't be able to believe a word she saladed.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
59. 15 year old daughter suing for emancipation
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:07 PM
Aug 2020

Husband taking time from his job, too. Daughter has been all over twitter being very vocal about her issues with her mother (including her role in the Trump admin and her plans to speak at the convention) This may actually, legitimately be “I need to focus on my family”

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
72. Mostly, I just feel for the daughter.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:40 PM
Aug 2020

Kellyanne is still clearly a horrible human being. It just seems the family stuff probably is the reason behind her stepping down.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
131. Mika B. banned KAC from Morning Joe back three years ago, saying "All she says are lies."
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 08:41 AM
Aug 2020

I thought at the time "She must be really bad for Morning Joe to ban her!"

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
71. Ikr?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:32 PM
Aug 2020

Daughter spoke about her mother's job, seeming to indicate that as a cause of abuse. I feel so sad for daughter. I really hope daughter gets help.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
40. She needs to save her relationship with her daughter.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:44 PM
Aug 2020

I am no fan of Kellyanne Conway. I do hope that this is real and she really is trying to repair the damage. Her daughter deserves more.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
41. It seems like a sad time for all in their family
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:48 PM
Aug 2020

I've seen Claudia's tic toc feed and she clearly seems to be having a difficult time with her parents and her own mental health. What is particularly sad about this is that her parents waited so long to appropriately and privately address their family issues.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
85. Yes It's heartbreaking
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:07 AM
Aug 2020

Clearly from what she has described and videoed there clearly is something "not good" going on here. It's sad that it had to get to this public of a display but she clearly needs assistance and is crying out with all that is available to her.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
88. Videos, too?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:11 AM
Aug 2020

Cripes. I hope they aren't taping child porn or something. Sick fkers.

It is so sad that daughter is in such pain. I hope she gets help.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
53. Good riddance - you will not be missed.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 10:57 PM
Aug 2020

Except with that new face of hers, she will surely end up on Fox news.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
67. For three years she carried the traitor's water and she got paid in taxpayer dollars
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:24 PM
Aug 2020

and she now sees the writing on the proverbial wall.................I think you should pay back your ill gotten taxpayer money and be locked up...........

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
70. With such established liars and grifters, I would need public appearances with hostile
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:30 PM
Aug 2020

interlocutors of all parties, including the minor, before I'd accept this as even provisionally true.

They've got no credibility at baseline, and this IS the self-interested, opportunistic move. Demand unimpeachable evidence before you engage in schadenfreude, no matter how tempting...

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
83. Easy answer: the GOP came up with the $$$ demanded by the Conways! In return for
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:02 AM
Aug 2020

NO BOOK DEALS for either one, and George bails on the Lincoln Project.
It’s never rocket science with these people.

speaknow

(321 posts)
109. must've been told
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:11 AM
Aug 2020

There's nothing left in the Treasury.
A few month and she'll be on fox
making big money for her family.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
110. More like she doubts Trump will be able to win so she is off to seek further celebrity probably by
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:13 AM
Aug 2020

joining Fox News and writing a tell all book about her time in the Whitehouse.

Paladin

(28,262 posts)
135. Good (and way overdue) riddance.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:02 PM
Aug 2020

Of course she won't fully disappear like she ought to. George Conway ought to walk away from that marriage and take the kids with him.

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