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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:57 AM Aug 2020

Biden holds 52-point lead over Trump among college students: poll

Source: The Hill

Seventy percent of college students surveyed said they will vote for Biden, compared to just 18 percent who said they will vote for Trump, according to the Knight Foundation poll released Monday.

-snip-

The poll found that 81 percent of students said they had an unfavorable impression of Trump, compared to just 19 percent who said they had a favorable impression of the president.

The survey also found that most students, about 7 in 10, said they are “absolutely certain” they will vote in the upcoming elections, with female students expressing greater certainty than their male counterparts by a margin of 10 points, according to the foundation.

Those respondents that identified as Democrats were more likely to say they are absolutely certain they will vote, at 81 percent, with 74 percent of Republicans saying the same, based on the poll.

-snip-

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/513336-biden-holds-52-point-lead-over-trump-among-college-students-poll



The article points out that the college students who say they'll vote for Biden don't all have a favorable opinion of him. That's probably due to his not promising free college for all and forgiveness of student loan debt. One bad result of making unrealistic promises to college students is that it can easily lead to disappointment if the candidate making those promises doesn't get the nomination.

But it's encouraging that 70% of college students are still planning to vote for Biden.
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Biden holds 52-point lead over Trump among college students: poll (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2020 OP
unfortunately, this demographic just do not vote in overwhelming numbers but the trend is what beachbumbob Aug 2020 #1
Joe needs to decriminalize or legalize weed SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2
If that is the main concern of young people frazzled Aug 2020 #8
It is a racial justice/income equality issue though RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #19
Yes it is, frazzled Aug 2020 #26
At this time I don't think that should become an issue. We don't need another distraction. demosincebirth Aug 2020 #11
Most people favor legalization JonLP24 Aug 2020 #32
Read his official website.. he has workable plans for such Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #18
Those people are misogynist JI7 Aug 2020 #35
WOWZA! honest.abe Aug 2020 #3
Problem is they won't. redstatebluegirl Aug 2020 #7
Then the Dems need a some strategy to get them to vote. rkleinberger Aug 2020 #30
Going out to colleges to register these kids would be huge flibbitygiblets Aug 2020 #34
They have never voted in large numbers because they just have other interests JI7 Aug 2020 #36
I wish they would vote JustAnotherGen Aug 2020 #4
Now to get them to the polls... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #5
I hope they are willing and able to vote IronLionZion Aug 2020 #6
They need to get off their asses melm00se Aug 2020 #9
I think you mean, "We need to do a better job engaging them". Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #14
Good way to put it..... we need campus registration drives, transportation to polls, etc. groundloop Aug 2020 #16
That's not enough. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #25
No. They are adults. melm00se Aug 2020 #27
I don't know who you are talking about. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #29
Kickin' With Gusto! Faux pas Aug 2020 #10
Trump will be tweeting about how tom_kelly Aug 2020 #12
They need to cast a vote! sinkingfeeling Aug 2020 #13
Get thee to the nearest POLL!!!! wolfie001 Aug 2020 #15
Another encouraging aspect of this is that these folks will likely remain Democrats in the future groundloop Aug 2020 #17
That's been true for me. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #22
Being a Democrat is a label melm00se Aug 2020 #28
If they're not voting in this election they never will. RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #20
If student turnout is actually 70%, Biden wins with 450+ EV's nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #21
ĦOjala! sandensea Aug 2020 #24
No wonder Orange Amin is trying to keep students from voting sandensea Aug 2020 #23
Your comment is bullshit if it was up to college students Hillary Clinton would be President JonLP24 Aug 2020 #31
Now let's see if they actually vote. murielm99 Aug 2020 #33
I have one question: will they vote? apnu Aug 2020 #37
Biden campaign should hire GOTV leaders on EVERY COLLEGE CAMPUS. Funtatlaguy Aug 2020 #38
The FBI has been warning for a long time maxrandb Aug 2020 #39
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. unfortunately, this demographic just do not vote in overwhelming numbers but the trend is what
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

important. Very little trump/GOP can wave at this group to attract support

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
8. If that is the main concern of young people
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

in this climate, it's a sad statement. I don't believe it is. Please have more faith in the critical and political thinking of young people: they care about many aspects of our government: racial justice, the economy, income inequality, climate change, gun violence, etc. etc.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
19. It is a racial justice/income equality issue though
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:19 PM
Aug 2020

How many people are in jail for selling weed because they are black, latino or needed the money.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
26. Yes it is,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:08 PM
Aug 2020

But approach it from the social justice angle (decriminalization), not from the college kids like to get high angle.

As for needing to sell, when my state legalized marijuana it was the first (and only) to make racial equity in the dispensary business a part of the law. So far, it's not working so well. But at least it's in the law.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
7. Problem is they won't.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:25 AM
Aug 2020

I worked as a poll worker for a while. Every major election we had more than a few students who showed up to vote and were not registered. They seemed confused when we told them they had to formally register, they could not just show up and vote. I agree with them it is nuts, but the fact that they don't know they have to register is a bit scary.

rkleinberger

(155 posts)
30. Then the Dems need a some strategy to get them to vote.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:27 PM
Aug 2020

Honestly, I don't see anything coming from the Biden campaign to motivate them. He needs to speak to their concerns specifically.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
34. Going out to colleges to register these kids would be huge
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:41 PM
Aug 2020

It would also be INCREDIBLY helpful if the guy they are really excited about (Bernie) would send them some links and plead with them to register.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
36. They have never voted in large numbers because they just have other interests
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:47 PM
Aug 2020

only way to get them to vote in large numbers would be to make voting mandatory or bring back the draft.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
4. I wish they would vote
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:06 AM
Aug 2020

We did 'ride share' in 1992 to vote for Clinton. Keep in mind - I was 19 and I had friends serving abroad under Bush 1.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
5. Now to get them to the polls...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:07 AM
Aug 2020

or to vote by mail. There's no 'App' for voting from your phone, and young people seem physically connected to their phones. Prying them away for the time it takes to actually vote is going to be a huge problem. I'm sure they have good intentions, but good intentions aren't going to get Biden/Harris elected.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
6. I hope they are willing and able to vote
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:18 AM
Aug 2020

apathy and voter suppression disproportionately impact this demographic since they skew left.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
14. I think you mean, "We need to do a better job engaging them".
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 AM
Aug 2020

Waiting around, expecting people to be the best versions of themselves is a long wait for a train that don't come.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
25. That's not enough.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:06 PM
Aug 2020

Young people aren't special. They're motivated and mobilized in much the same manner as old people. Some think about issues in the abstract or the prospective, but by and large, they think about issues that directly affect them in the immediate. If you want them to vote for your party, you have to offer them something tangible.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
27. No. They are adults.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:18 PM
Aug 2020

As adults they are responsible for their own actions.

If, as the poll indicates, they overwhelmingly support Biden, they need to act like adults, get it in gear and vote.

If they don't get out and vote, they (and I say this to anyone who does not vote) have absolutely no fricking right to bitch and moan about the current jackass in office.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
29. I don't know who you are talking about.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:27 PM
Aug 2020

From the sound of it, neither do you.

If, as the poll indicates, they overwhelmingly support Biden, they need to act like adults, get it in gear and vote.


These polls self-select individuals who are already likely to vote. The question isn't whether or not this "70% of polled college students" is going to vote for Biden (they've already committed themselves to it), but whether it is representative of college students at large.


If they don't get out and vote, they (and I say this to anyone who does not vote) have absolutely no fricking right to bitch and moan about the current jackass in office.


Winning elections interests me more than the satisfactory feeling one gets when knowing their arguments are internally consistent. Maybe get with the program.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
17. Another encouraging aspect of this is that these folks will likely remain Democrats in the future
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
Aug 2020

Not all, of course, but a good many. Once they've made up their mind that the Democratic Party better represents their views and values than the alternative they're likely to continue as Democrats in the future.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
22. That's been true for me.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:35 PM
Aug 2020

There was an HR rep at one of my past jobs from 20+ years ago who said to me one day, "I just realized how such a nice young man like you could be a Democrat. You went to college, so you were brainwashed."

LOL! Firstly, she was a religious nut! And she thought I was the brainwashed one?! Secondly, I was surprised that she even brought up politics to me because I'd never discussed it with her, but only among a small number of coworkers. (Obviously, my Democratic allegiance was big enough "news" in that damn place that it got back to her too.)

Edit: My only reply was that I was a Democrat before even going to college. (And coincidentally, management at that place was less friendly to me in general around that same period.)

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
28. Being a Democrat is a label
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Aug 2020

and labels change over the years.

It is your political stances that are the key not the label that they wear.

While this was 150+ years ago, it bears saying:

In the 1860 thru to ~1880's, the Republican Party was the liberal party and the Democratic Party was the conservative one.

It slowly changed over time and the labels traded places.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
20. If they're not voting in this election they never will.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:21 PM
Aug 2020

I don't know what more could get them to vote than this asshole in the WH.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
23. No wonder Orange Amin is trying to keep students from voting
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:45 PM
Aug 2020

If Biden were president, and he were trying to keep mud-wrestling fans from voting, Repugs would call for a military coup.

But then, they'd never have to worry about that from a Democratic president (and they know it).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
31. Your comment is bullshit if it was up to college students Hillary Clinton would be President
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:33 PM
Aug 2020

They tend to be more progressive than the older generation so naturally those votes go to the Democrats. I bet you can still find college students that support subsidized education.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
39. The FBI has been warning for a long time
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:34 AM
Aug 2020

that there has been a decades long plan for white supremacists to infiltrate local law enforcement across the country.

I'm beginning to think these murders of African Americans is intentional and planned to fan the flames of racial animous.

Doubt that it's a coincidence.

Kill someone. Don't worry, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning while simultaneously being bitten by a shark, than you do of being held accountable as a police officer.

Rightly outraged Americans protest.

Protests are escalated resulting in smoke, fire and teargas on the street.

Video of fired, smoke and teargas sent to the RNC to coincide with their dystopian message.

Hard not to think this is according to white supremacists playbook.

I'm sorry for the "good" law enforcement, but the entire force needs to be torn down to the studs and rebuilt.

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