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brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:50 AM Aug 2020

Falwell Reveals Wife's 'Fatal Attraction' Affair With Pool Boy

Source: Daily Beast

Jerry Falwell Jr. says a “fatal attraction” threat to expose an affair his wife had with a pool boy eight years ago triggered an emotional roller coaster before he was suspended as president of Liberty University. The Christian school on Friday said it was investigating “rumors and claims” about Falwell, who was put on leave after a photo of him with his pants unzipped surfaced. “I’m just tired of it,” Falwell told the Washington Examiner as he released a long statement about the infidelity by wife Becki. “It’s just got to end.”

In the statement, Falwell Jr. says he forgave Becki for the affair. He did not name the pool boy, but numerous news outlets have written about the couple’s friendship with Miami pool attendant Giancarlo Granda and a real estate venture with him. Falwell claimed that over time, the man “became increasingly angry and aggressive” and “began threatening to publicly reveal this secret relationship with Becki and to deliberately embarrass my wife, family, and Liberty University unless we agreed to pay him substantial monies.” Falwell added, “We were doing our best to respectfully unravel this ‘fatal attraction’ type situation to protect our family and the University.” The Daily Beast was unable to contact Granda.


Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jerry-falwell-jr-says-pool-boy-tried-to-extort-him-after-affair-with-wife



Jealous that the pool boy was two-timing him?
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Falwell Reveals Wife's 'Fatal Attraction' Affair With Pool Boy (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
Just can't........ Ninga Aug 2020 #1
Jerry Falwell Jr. was in on the action too Botany Aug 2020 #2
In pictures, with the three of them together, Jerry was definitely into it. Canoe52 Aug 2020 #20
Jerry liked "to watch." Botany Aug 2020 #28
Now this is getting good. And in a bad way. marble falls Aug 2020 #3
Fatal attraction? Who died? wolfie001 Aug 2020 #4
I think this is about the point where Gawd smites somebody rurallib Aug 2020 #13
Beware the Smiter-In-Chief wolfie001 Aug 2020 #27
He's jumping ahead of the story n/t tom_kelly Aug 2020 #5
Time to be born again dexdah Aug 2020 #6
cuckold says what? Thomas Hurt Aug 2020 #7
Riiiiiiiight relayerbob Aug 2020 #8
When fire and brimstone doesn't create the excitement anymore bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #9
so right wing sociopath control freak blames his wife for his problems... Javaman Aug 2020 #10
On the plus side, generalbetrayus Aug 2020 #11
Hope he doesn't get let off this easy. No satanic pool boy made him want to dally with that redhead... Journeyman Aug 2020 #12
This jerk is scared...... dawnie51 Aug 2020 #14
My spider sense tells me that this was a threesome and Falwell initiated it. TeamPooka Aug 2020 #15
See, he's a victim. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #16
Definitely & I can't get those images out of mind appalachiablue Aug 2020 #40
I just pray no rabbits were harmed in this drama Pluvious Aug 2020 #17
I've said this before Miguelito Loveless Aug 2020 #18
here's another one for the boss to grab - victim-playing shitburger bringthePaine Aug 2020 #19
A man blaming his wife for his actions. Solly Mack Aug 2020 #21
Unless there's more to it than this article ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #42
You forgive people for not doing something you view as wrong? Solly Mack Aug 2020 #47
Here's the thing ... we don't know there was no affair ... mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #48
I tend to think they did both agree to his initial "reveal" story. Solly Mack Aug 2020 #49
You are a hot mess, Jerry pandr32 Aug 2020 #22
That's why he's guzzling drinks with his pants open, groping a girl who looks a third his age? Squinch Aug 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Aug 2020 #24
Yeah! Right! Blame the wife. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #25
Of Course It Is Her Fault, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2020 #26
The Lord works in mysterious ways sandensea Aug 2020 #29
is falwell also having sex with boys/young men? samsingh Aug 2020 #30
Who doesn't look to the pool boy for a joint real estate venture? BusyBeingBest Aug 2020 #31
Eve led him to sin?? janterry Aug 2020 #32
Now he's throwing his wife under the bus Withywindle Aug 2020 #33
These types seem to always be deviant in some way. hamsterjill Aug 2020 #34
Liking to be cucked doesn't make him deviant obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #36
The definition fits. hamsterjill Aug 2020 #38
This 'blame the woman' crap has been going on since the Garden of Eden. Talitha Aug 2020 #35
Can't wait for the Kevin Sorbo movie about this. Yavin4 Aug 2020 #37
I'm not going to be ignored, Dan. betsuni Aug 2020 #39
To quote Oscar Wilde Nac Mac Feegle Aug 2020 #41
Is there more to it than this article? Not getting why everyone's saying he's blaming the wife mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #43
Read this thread: radius777 Aug 2020 #44
But you're saying at this point, we only know that Granda slept with the wife mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #45
C'mon man - you're being obtuse. radius777 Aug 2020 #46

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
20. In pictures, with the three of them together, Jerry was definitely into it.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

Not that I give a care about anyone’s sexuality, but you gotta love the nice job he’s doing throwing his wife Becky and the pool boy under the bus while he maintains his innocence.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
28. Jerry liked "to watch."
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:51 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Giancarlo Granda says his sexual relationship with the Falwells began when he was 20. He says he had sex
with Becki Falwell while Jerry Falwell Jr, head of Liberty University and a staunch supporter of President Trump,
looked on.



https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-falwell-relationship/

Although Jerry since then put through a sweetheart real estate deal for another athletic young man and
opened up Liberty University early which spread the disease.

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
13. I think this is about the point where Gawd smites somebody
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Aug 2020

So pay attention, smiting may commence momentarily

dexdah

(45 posts)
6. Time to be born again
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:57 AM
Aug 2020

And again, and again, and again. Can’t let the grifter gravy train leave station without ol Jerry junior on board.

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
9. When fire and brimstone doesn't create the excitement anymore
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:09 PM
Aug 2020

Rules are for the heathens, and the Bible Belt is stretched way beyond capacity.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
10. so right wing sociopath control freak blames his wife for his problems...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
Aug 2020

check. gotcha.

I am getting the overwhelming smell of bullshit.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
11. On the plus side,
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:15 PM
Aug 2020

maybe 2020 will turn out to be the year that major grifters across the US finally have their deserved downfall. I hope to see Jerry selling 55-gallon drums of emergency survival food on the internet in the near future.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
12. Hope he doesn't get let off this easy. No satanic pool boy made him want to dally with that redhead...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:18 PM
Aug 2020

No wifely liaisons caused him to "like" pictures of Liberty U coeds in lingerie, nor did threats of blackmail compel him to do pelvic thrusts with two coeds balanced on his barbell. The list of his economic and social indiscretions is near endless.

No, Falwell fell well due to his own lack of ethics and morals. I don't care what decisions Liberty U or the increasingly hypocritical evangelical cult may make about him. I just hope the rest of the world will recognize him for the debased reprobate he is and shun him 'til the end of his days.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
14. This jerk is scared......
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Aug 2020

he knows Cohen has the goods on him, and the book is about to be published. Trying to do damage control by throwing the old lady under the bus. What a loser.

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
15. My spider sense tells me that this was a threesome and Falwell initiated it.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:21 PM
Aug 2020

Blaming his wife is bush league.

appalachiablue

(41,133 posts)
40. Definitely & I can't get those images out of mind
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 09:53 PM
Aug 2020

with all these stories floating about. She, demon woman is the casue of course.. Not Jerry taking too many liberties..

> I want to know if 'Pool Boy' & 'Rent Boy' hang out in Miami. I bet they work the the evangelical circuit..

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
21. A man blaming his wife for his actions.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

She did this - causing all the drama and stress - caused his behavior.

It was all Eve's fault.

Quince, the pool boy. Snort.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
42. Unless there's more to it than this article ...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:44 AM
Aug 2020

It appears he's blaming the pool boy for extorting their family.

Where is he blaming the wife?

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
47. You forgive people for not doing something you view as wrong?
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:19 AM
Aug 2020

Or do you forgive people for committing a wrong against you?

If you view an action as wrong and claim you forgive the person you feel wronged you, does that not imply blame?

Of course it does. Not only implies, it's a given...otherwise, why claim forgiveness?

I don't blame you for anything and you didn't do anything wrong, but I forgive you anyway.

Not.

Shitwell was, at the time of this article, attempting to create a narrative whereby he was the victim of his wife's lover, claiming to be stressed by it all; that it caused him to be on an "emotional rollercoaster". The next line lets the reader know he meant that by way of explaining his actions on the yacht.


The affair, which wasn't an affair so much as a throuple, he blames on his wife - completely leaving out his own actions.

So, the root of his problem (yacht, booze, pants undone, another woman, icky photo), as per the article - his revealing his wife's affair, was the affair.

No affair. No blackmail. No stress. No acting out on the yacht with the icky photo.

He was blaming his wife. Her affair. Her lover. Her actions as the cause of it all.

He was spinning a tale to explain his behavior.







 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
48. Here's the thing ... we don't know there was no affair ...
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:53 PM
Aug 2020

Talking here at a 30K foot level, ignoring the fact that I can't stand this guy ... philosophical-like ...

Just because a 3-way relationship happened at some stage as a consensual agreement ... does not mean it stayed that way. In fact it's pretty common for it not to. That's part of why many people ... wouldn't do it.

*IF* an affair happened, and esp. *IF* the family was being extorted? And from an article I saw yesterday, he may've also been extorted by Cohen to support Trump on top of whatever the pool boy was doing?

Then yes ... that sounds pretty friggin' stressful I gotta admit. I do think it's possible that a person could end up 'spiraling' as a result, drinking, cavorting with young people for example. To view it as 'not one's fault' is at least a bit understandable, *IF* the wife really did have an affair. Which we on DU *think* isn't the case, but we don't actually know.

There's also another 'angle' ... regardless of whether the wife had an affair, one also doesn't know whether the decision to present this escapade as an affair by the wife was not a mutual decision on their part. Apparently there are some pics of her and the pool boy, so there was kinda no 'getting around' some kind of relationship, do I have that right? Perhaps she is more comfortable with the world thinking she had an affair than she is with the world thinking she was involved in a 3-way kinky, husband-watching sex fest? Given who these people are, it's definitely not unthinkable.

I'm just saying it's hard to tell what really happened or why we're being told what we're being told. It might look like she's being 'thrown under the bus' ... but what they're putting out there might an explanation they're both entirely in on.

In any case, it's a nice, sordid tale, and great fun watching them squirm

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
49. I tend to think they did both agree to his initial "reveal" story.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

But that story, even with her consent, is still blaming her at the root. Even if she agreed to take the fall, the story the public hears is my wife had an affair and on top of all that, her lover was a bad man who did bad things and I was stressed, so I acted out.

I think it was a bid to save his position at the Liberty U.

The reveal was a PR stunt.

It failed.

It is true that I wasn't there in the room with them so I don't know how it all began or how the decision making went down.

But blaming everyone but themselves is a standard rightwing move.





pandr32

(11,586 posts)
22. You are a hot mess, Jerry
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:28 PM
Aug 2020

It is time for you and your family along with all your problems step away from the limelight for good. Stay away.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
23. That's why he's guzzling drinks with his pants open, groping a girl who looks a third his age?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:29 PM
Aug 2020

OK.

And PS, who put up the cash for the "real estate venture?" I'm guessing a collection basket.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
26. Of Course It Is Her Fault, Sir
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:48 PM
Aug 2020

If she hadn't given in to Falwell's pleas to have sex with a young man while Falwell watched them go at it, none of this difficulty would have happened....

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
29. The Lord works in mysterious ways
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 12:53 PM
Aug 2020


"Forgive me, Lord, for I'm about to sin."

"It's alright my child. Why doest thou think I sent him there!"

BusyBeingBest

(8,053 posts)
31. Who doesn't look to the pool boy for a joint real estate venture?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:08 PM
Aug 2020

And not once during the transaction would you think, "Maybe I'm paying the pool boy too much if I need him to help me buy real estate..." Totally legit and not weird or unseemly.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
33. Now he's throwing his wife under the bus
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:31 PM
Aug 2020

The young man in question says it was consensual between the three of them and Falwell liked to watch.


edited to say: As kinky stuff goes, that's pretty tame. Most people wouldn't give a damn if he weren't a hypocrite obsessed with controlling other people's sex lives. Scratch the surface of a person like that and you ALWAYS find something at least a little weird. ALWAYS.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
34. These types seem to always be deviant in some way.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:37 PM
Aug 2020

Yes, I’m stereotyping, but if it fits, it fits. The crazy Evangelicals have such a hang up about sex! Sex is natural, healthy and normal. These idiots make it so taboo that they always get themselves into trouble sneaking over to the “other side” for a taste.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
38. The definition fits.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 06:38 PM
Aug 2020

I think you understood what I meant. These types want to try things that they feel are taboo.

Cuckholding isn’t exactly your basic missionary position thus my use of the word “deviant”.

Most definitely a hypocrite.

Nac Mac Feegle

(971 posts)
41. To quote Oscar Wilde
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:48 PM
Aug 2020

“A man who moralizes is a hypocrite, and a woman who does so is invariably plain.”

There's nothing more to be said.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
43. Is there more to it than this article? Not getting why everyone's saying he's blaming the wife
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 02:48 AM
Aug 2020

The part of the article quoted by the Beast suggests he's blaming the pool boy for extorting the family.

Where's the 'blaming the wife' that everyone's freaking out about?

Is it because we 'know' he was part of the action? How is that 'known' for sure? What's the source?

I just don't want to go off on facebook or somewhere talking about stuff that I'm not actually sure of is why I'm asking.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
44. Read this thread:
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:26 AM
Aug 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213961833

source: Reuters
Business partner of Falwells says affair with evangelical power couple spanned seven years
Giancarlo Granda says his sexual relationship with the Falwells began when he was 20. He says he had sex with Becki Falwell while Jerry Falwell Jr, head of Liberty University and a staunch supporter of President Trump, looked on.

source: Reuters
Exclusive: Falwell steered Liberty University land deal benefiting his personal trainer
Around 2011, Falwell, president of Liberty University in Virginia, and his wife, Rebecca, began personal fitness training sessions with Benjamin Crosswhite, then a 23-year-old recent Liberty graduate. Now, after a series of university real estate transactions signed by Falwell, Crosswhite owns a sprawling 18-acre racquet sports and fitness facility on former Liberty property. Last year, a local bank approved a line of credit allowing Crosswhite’s business to borrow as much as $2 million against the property.


IOW, there are likely more cases like this to come out, where they engaged in sex with these guys and also got mixed up financially with them.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
45. But you're saying at this point, we only know that Granda slept with the wife
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 03:38 AM
Aug 2020

and he is saying that Jr looked on? Has he admitted to that? Is there other evidence?

Not that I really doubt the kid, and I'm not defending this shitheel, but the idea that he 'looked' on a non-zero number of times does not preclude the possibility that an affair also happened.

What starts out as 'something fun we're doing together' turns into 'something fun I'm doing without you, and not telling you because what I'm doing was not the original deal'.

Which, regardless of the original consent given, still constitutes an 'affair'.

Do we know that the deal with Crosswhite was also sexual? Or are we guessing it's likely given what Granda said and the fortuitous circumstances he found himself in courtesy of the Falwells?

radius777

(3,635 posts)
46. C'mon man - you're being obtuse.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 04:22 AM
Aug 2020

Falwell is the typical religious hypocrite who wants to throw his wife (also a hypocrite) and others under the bus while casting himself as the victim.

The pool boy's story is credible. He has texts and pics that he shared with credible news outlets which substantiate his claim that it was a sex game involving all three people. IOW, Jr is not an innocent bystander. Nor is the wife just 'someone who had an affair'. They wanted sex games and sought it out.

The personal trainer situation we don't know if it was sexual but seems like a similar pattern to the pool boy story.

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