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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:38 PM Aug 2020

Richard Spencer Backs Joe Biden, Says 'MAGA/Alt-Right Moment is Over'

Source: Newsweek

White nationalist Richard Spencer has said he will be backing Democratic candidate Joe Biden in November's election after previously distancing himself from Donald Trump.

Spencer, who was one of the key figureheads of the alt-right movement, tweeted how he is "on Team Joe" on Monday, adding in a self-made campaign slogan, "Liberals are clearly more competent."

...

"The MAGA/Alt-Right moment is over. I made mistakes; Trump is an obvious disaster; but mainly the paradigm contained flaws that we now are able to perceive. And it needs to end," Spencer wrote. "So be patient. We'll have another day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form."

...

"I deeply regret voting for and promoting Donald Trump in 2016," Spencer tweeted. "To the people of Iran, there are millions of Americans who do not want war, who do not hate you, and who respect your nation and its history.




Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/richard-spencer-joe-biden-trump-maga-1527141
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Richard Spencer Backs Joe Biden, Says 'MAGA/Alt-Right Moment is Over' (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 OP
No thanks. Hoyt Aug 2020 #1
Take his vote and then tell him to fuck off. fleur-de-lisa Aug 2020 #22
I get it, but sure don't want signs like that with Biden's logo. Hoyt Aug 2020 #24
Yeah, you're right, but what can be done? fleur-de-lisa Aug 2020 #28
Yep rpannier Aug 2020 #81
Agreed. Joe has got to publicly reject this endorsement. brush Aug 2020 #32
Maybe getting punched in the face in a viral video Warpy Aug 2020 #74
"Maybe he's dead-broke.... concretebluetwo Aug 2020 #84
It's going to take a whole lot more than just voting for a Democrat Warpy Aug 2020 #85
What? dhol82 Aug 2020 #2
Huh? I never expected an alt-right racist to care about democracy and good governance! liberalla Aug 2020 #36
is he legit or is this some kinda trojan horse? Or do we want him? CurtEastPoint Aug 2020 #3
Who knows. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2020 #5
Ha no we don't want him soothsayer Aug 2020 #10
If he spends the rest of his life renouncing his rascist beliefs I say let him in. mikeysnot Aug 2020 #13
One of our best (in the end) Senators ever was a KKK member The Mouth Aug 2020 #53
Agree. orangecrush Aug 2020 #60
No. Of course not. Biden has to publicly reject this. brush Aug 2020 #33
Biden just needs to ignore this because Spencer might bring along some of his followers womanofthehills Aug 2020 #76
No. We don't need it known that we welcome the vote of racists. brush Aug 2020 #77
Exactly. In the big picture, Spencer is a piss ant. Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #78
Read the last line of the article " Well have another Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2020 #52
Because They Realize the Ship Is Going Down Upward Aug 2020 #56
It's some bullshit, guaranteed. Codeine Aug 2020 #67
Nicely Distilled My Sentiment! ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #71
Is this the part in the movie in which all the Nazis yell "Kamerade!" Grokenstein Aug 2020 #4
Rejected swiftly by Joe's quick response dude soothsayer Aug 2020 #6
"So be patient. We'll have another day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form." poli-junkie Aug 2020 #7
Does anyone believe this is anything more than a lame attempt to give the Trumpies an excuse to say Atticus Aug 2020 #8
Nifty. Laelth Aug 2020 #9
No, this has to be publicly rejected. The tent does not have room... brush Aug 2020 #35
Yes. Very quickly it appears. n/t Laelth Aug 2020 #37
Biden and the campaign did very publicly still_one Aug 2020 #42
K&R onetexan Aug 2020 #73
Ugh... go fuck yourself. demmiblue Aug 2020 #11
Gross Dopers_Greed Aug 2020 #12
Wow relayerbob Aug 2020 #14
There certainly is that. calimary Aug 2020 #27
Might this be a set up so they can say "white supremacists support Biden too"? George II Aug 2020 #15
Absolutely. n/t pnwmom Aug 2020 #17
That's the most 2naSalit Aug 2020 #26
Yes LeftInTX Aug 2020 #40
The white supremacist is trying to chip away at Black support for Biden. pnwmom Aug 2020 #16
I don't think there is much black support for Kanye West JonLP24 Aug 2020 #25
Even losing a couple percent would be bad. But the Harriet Tubman comment came after pnwmom Aug 2020 #44
It's a trick to make Joe look like the racist candidate LeftInTX Aug 2020 #39
I think this guy might've voted for Obama twice jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #18
Lame psyops from a dolt. apnu Aug 2020 #19
Dude is just tired of getting punched in the face IronLionZion Aug 2020 #20
!!!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #46
F him and no thanks. JDC Aug 2020 #21
First Ammon Bundy, now Spencer. roamer65 Aug 2020 #23
Well, you know that saying about the broken clock. calimary Aug 2020 #30
As long as the Biden campaign doesn't promote it, sure, why not? OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #29
Fuck that asshole. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #31
WTF? LeftInTX Aug 2020 #34
Uh, I'm not sure this is a good thing. AllyCat Aug 2020 #38
Eff Off, Ricky The Daily Irishman Aug 2020 #41
Probably hoping his support will put off some black voters after Bidens choice of Harris as his VP. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #43
Yeah, fuck that guy. aquamarina Aug 2020 #45
Note the damn fool said nothing re: denouncing white nationalism. We do not need his association. onetexan Aug 2020 #47
That's what I was looking for. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #49
i'm wondering if all this white nationalist crap is just a 15-minutes-of-fame ploy, & now that he's onetexan Aug 2020 #57
The world must be ending. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #48
Ugh. He's so nasty. I feel like I need to take a shower and use disinfectant soap after even BigDemVoter Aug 2020 #50
One think this could help is reduce enthusiasm among the alt right supporters jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #51
I don't care. We do not need nor want an endorsement from the likes of him whether totodeinhere Aug 2020 #59
No shit. Some of the responses in this thread are bizarre. demmiblue Aug 2020 #61
I could care less who anybody endorses. But I do hope there is a strong response from the Biden jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #65
Punching more of them in their smirking faces Codeine Aug 2020 #68
I don't disagree. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #69
Don't want your phony opportunism. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #54
Yeah, pull this one.... stevil Aug 2020 #55
Joe needs to reject his endorsement. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2020 #58
This is as much of a joke as Spencer is. 2Legit Aug 2020 #62
GFYS EarthFirst Aug 2020 #63
I smell a republican dirty trick in this! kimbutgar Aug 2020 #64
I think he's mad because trump controls most of those followers rpannier Aug 2020 #82
'Absolutely repugnant': Biden's campaign forcefully disavows an endorsement from neo-Nazi muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #66
Shades of a South Park episode Flaleftist Aug 2020 #70
Go fuck yourself, Dick. LudwigPastorius Aug 2020 #72
I have some parting words for the Alt Right: Initech Aug 2020 #75
BTW, this nazi prick also tossed his pregnant wife down a flight of stairs. Crowman2009 Aug 2020 #79
I don't want his active support, but this is really useful as it may put at least part of a stake artemisia1 Aug 2020 #80
It never existed in the first place reggaehead Aug 2020 #83
The tent ain't that big, asshole Yeehah Aug 2020 #86

brush

(53,781 posts)
32. Agreed. Joe has got to publicly reject this endorsement.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
Aug 2020

We don't need this racist hinting about re-inventing his movement later.

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
74. Maybe getting punched in the face in a viral video
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 08:28 PM
Aug 2020

knocked a little sense into him. Maybe he grew up. Maybe he just knows the hate train is due to run off a cliff. Maybe nobody cares what he thinks any more. Maybe he's dead broke and looking for deodorant so he can get a job.

Doesn't matter. I'll take every vote we can get.

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
85. It's going to take a whole lot more than just voting for a Democrat
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:03 AM
Aug 2020

That boy's got a lot of restitutin' to do.

liberalla

(9,248 posts)
36. Huh? I never expected an alt-right racist to care about democracy and good governance!
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:11 PM
Aug 2020

This blows my mind! I would've thought drumpf - competent or not - was his guy... ?



Edit to add: No, we don't want this guy involved in the campaign. He's slime IMO.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
5. Who knows.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:43 PM
Aug 2020

I'm guessing the latter. He's a grifter. However, this is a consequence of having a tent so big that it loses its principles.

mikeysnot

(4,757 posts)
13. If he spends the rest of his life renouncing his rascist beliefs I say let him in.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:46 PM
Aug 2020

People do wake and can up from the racism and WS beliefs...

Do not want to shun them for making mistakes.





The Mouth

(3,150 posts)
53. One of our best (in the end) Senators ever was a KKK member
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:01 PM
Aug 2020

Byrd saw the light and turned it around.

womanofthehills

(8,710 posts)
76. Biden just needs to ignore this because Spencer might bring along some of his followers
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 10:45 PM
Aug 2020

And we need every vote. Win first - reject later.

brush

(53,781 posts)
77. No. We don't need it known that we welcome the vote of racists.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:19 PM
Aug 2020

Are you kidding me? That's absolutely not what the Democratic nominee should ignore or accept. And thankfully his campaign has publicly rejected that support.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
78. Exactly. In the big picture, Spencer is a piss ant.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 11:26 PM
Aug 2020

We know who he is, but he's far from a household name. Joe has bigger fish to fry.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
52. Read the last line of the article " Well have another
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:52 PM
Aug 2020

day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form."

Not renouncing white supremacy, just doesnt like Trump.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
67. It's some bullshit, guaranteed.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:13 PM
Aug 2020

Nazi boy can fuck right off, and take his fashy haircut with him.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. Rejected swiftly by Joe's quick response dude
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Aug 2020

I went down this rabbit hole this morning after mrs k’s tweet. I can’t recall the campaign guy’s name but I found the tweet.


?s=21


Mrs. Krassenstein
@HKrassenstein
BREAKING: Joe Biden's campaign has rejected the endorsement of Richard Spencer.

Meanwhile Donald Trump fully embraced the endorsement of David Duke and QAnon.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
8. Does anyone believe this is anything more than a lame attempt to give the Trumpies an excuse to say
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:44 PM
Aug 2020

"BOTH sides have white supremacist fanboys"?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Nifty.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:45 PM
Aug 2020

We may not want his support, but there’s no mechanism to turn it down, either. If he attempted a financial contribution, that could be refused. Joe could issue a statement condemning this particular supporter, but, otherwise, the tent just got a lot bigger.



-Laelth

brush

(53,781 posts)
35. No, this has to be publicly rejected. The tent does not have room...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:11 PM
Aug 2020

for this racist trash. And I understand that a Biden spokesperson tweeted a rejection this morning.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
14. Wow
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:48 PM
Aug 2020

Not sure I want him on our side, but whatever, at least he realizes he made mistakes, and that's always a good thing

calimary

(81,281 posts)
27. There certainly is that.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
Aug 2020

Hey, a vote is a vote is a vote. And maybe he's had enough of a bellyful to realize the mistakes of his (hopefully previous) ways. Time will tell.

I do believe in deathbed (and other) conversions.

Another vote that's NOT for trump is an okay vote!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
16. The white supremacist is trying to chip away at Black support for Biden.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:50 PM
Aug 2020

He's only pretending to support Biden, just like Kanye West is only pretending to be running against Trump. And for the same reason.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
25. I don't think there is much black support for Kanye West
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:58 PM
Aug 2020

Especially after he lied about Harriet Tubman.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
44. Even losing a couple percent would be bad. But the Harriet Tubman comment came after
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:19 PM
Aug 2020

he announced his run, so he shot himself and his hopes in the foot.

jorgevlorgan

(8,298 posts)
18. I think this guy might've voted for Obama twice
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:52 PM
Aug 2020

But he is also a racist, piece o crap. Lile Bradley Witford's character in Get Out. Except more transparent.

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
20. Dude is just tired of getting punched in the face
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:54 PM
Aug 2020

this is all fake. He's still a Nazi. Nazis still support Trump.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
23. First Ammon Bundy, now Spencer.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:57 PM
Aug 2020


He’s right on one solitary point. Liberals ARE more competent at governing.

calimary

(81,281 posts)
30. Well, you know that saying about the broken clock.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:06 PM
Aug 2020

A broken clock is right, twice a day.

And frankly, I hope he's right about the MAGA/alt right moment being over, too.

OVER!!! For all our sakes!

And he's right about something else, too:

"Liberals are clearly more competent."

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
29. As long as the Biden campaign doesn't promote it, sure, why not?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:04 PM
Aug 2020

If he can deliver a bunch of white nationalist votes, we should take them. This election is for all the marbles. We need every vote we can get. He's not going to be welcome here until he repudiates his past.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
38. Uh, I'm not sure this is a good thing.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:12 PM
Aug 2020

He needs, at a minimum, a heartfelt and thorough apology this actions and behaviors for the past many years. This looks like a Trojan horse to me.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
49. That's what I was looking for.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:33 PM
Aug 2020

He gains nothing by supporting Biden. So is he going to come out and repent in a big way?

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
57. i'm wondering if all this white nationalist crap is just a 15-minutes-of-fame ploy, & now that he's
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:49 PM
Aug 2020

seeing the Idiot's ship sinking he's being opportunistic & trying to maybe infiltrate Dems?
OR is it a ploy to have 45's camp say Dems also support racists? Makes one wonder doesn't it?

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
50. Ugh. He's so nasty. I feel like I need to take a shower and use disinfectant soap after even
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:36 PM
Aug 2020

looking at a photo of him.

I don't trust ANYTHING he has to say. He was an unapologetic white supremacist, and I cannot believe he's changed his tune at all. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's doing this to try to harm Biden, as this nasty piece of work knows his endorsement is poison.

jorgevlorgan

(8,298 posts)
51. One think this could help is reduce enthusiasm among the alt right supporters
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 04:37 PM
Aug 2020

Which can lower turnout for Trump people. There is an enthusiasm gap favoring Trump still -although I don't know exactly how much it matters, I do think that the few leaders among the racists that turn out the racists, the better it will be for the overall result.

jorgevlorgan

(8,298 posts)
65. I could care less who anybody endorses. But I do hope there is a strong response from the Biden
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020

campaign denouncing them. Regardless of what we think of it, it is a reflection of the overall sentiment against Trump -that he isn't the true Nazi leader they thought he was. The terrifying thing about all this is that person -the one true nazi demogogue that can galvanize broad support, is still out there. Once Biden wins, we need to implement a broad range of limits on the executive branch to reduce the damage that can be done in the future.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
68. Punching more of them in their smirking faces
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:15 PM
Aug 2020

would be a more effective tactic, and has the advantage of visceral satisfaction.

keithbvadu2

(36,812 posts)
54. Don't want your phony opportunism.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:06 PM
Aug 2020

Don't want your phony opportunism.

Trying to desert Trump's sinking ship and pretending to look good.
-------------------------------------------------

http://www.businessinsider.com/richard-spencer-says-trump-didnt-condemn-the-alt-right-2017-8

"White nationalist Richard Spencer: Trump 'didn't condemn us,' and 'only a dumb person' would take his statement seriously"

stevil

(1,537 posts)
55. Yeah, pull this one....
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:25 PM
Aug 2020

Obvious attempt to exploit a REALLY bad endorsement, will probably become a talking point for the GOP immediately. Ht's off to Joe's team for getting in front it. I really hope this becomes a debate question.

2Legit

(90 posts)
62. This is as much of a joke as Spencer is.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 06:31 PM
Aug 2020

Their plans went sideways because they designated someone dumber than themselves as their leader. One of the reasons that groups like his worked in the past is because of it's secrecy. It was the fear of not knowing exactly who the enemy was that worked in keeping people afraid and in line. Once you know who the cowards are, you see that they are a bunch of scared little boys. 45 is the worst of the lot and, to make it worse for this group, he had no idea how to wield his power effectively and talks way to damn much.

They got a hard on for 45 because he said in public what they say in their dungeon meetings and they got just a little too excited by his kindred "spiritness." Unfortunately, they didn't realize what an incompetent dolt he truly is until it was too late. Because of their hubris, lots of individuals have been publicly exposed and personally damaged in some way. That genie cannot be put back in the bottle. This is what happens when you hitch your wagon to the wrong star.

Now, Spencer is trying to infiltrate the Democratic party because he thinks that we'd be so gullible that we'd be happy to have him as a convert. GTFOH! Leopards do not change their spots. He's going to have to do a lot more work on himself before I believe anything that comes out of his mouth. I'd like to think that Charles Barkley dressing him down changed his way of thinking, but I seriously doubt it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
66. 'Absolutely repugnant': Biden's campaign forcefully disavows an endorsement from neo-Nazi
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:09 PM
Aug 2020
Shortly after, Biden's campaign forcefully disavowed Spencer's endorsement.

"When Joe Biden says we are in a battle for the soul of our nation against vile forces of hate who have come crawling out from under rocks, you are the epitome of what he means," Andrew Bates, the rapid-response director for the Biden campaign, tweeted. "What you stand for is absolutely repugnant. Your support is 10,000% percent unwelcome here."




https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-campaign-disavows-richard-spencer-endorsement-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

Crowman2009

(2,497 posts)
79. BTW, this nazi prick also tossed his pregnant wife down a flight of stairs.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:16 AM
Aug 2020

Not to mention had an affair with another racist prick who ran unsuccessfully for mayor of Toronto. So fuck him!

artemisia1

(756 posts)
80. I don't want his active support, but this is really useful as it may put at least part of a stake
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:21 AM
Aug 2020

into the wicked heart of the "alt-right". Former V.P. and future President Biden was right to disavow it, though.

reggaehead

(269 posts)
83. It never existed in the first place
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 05:48 AM
Aug 2020
They just didn't like being called fascist or Nazi. Kind of like Bill Kristol and the neoCons. Not real they are the neo-liberals.
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