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brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:48 AM Aug 2020

Boris Johnson plans to resign in 6 months because of lingering coronavirus health problems

Source: Business Insider

The father-in-law of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's closest aide has reportedly said Johnson plans to stand down in six months because of lingering health problems caused by the novel coronavirus.

The Times of London's Diary column reported a conversation between Humphry Wakefield, the father of Dominic Cummings' wife, Mary, and a woman named Anna Silverman last week in which he is said to have told her that Johnson would resign early next year because of the lasting effects of his time in intensive care.

Silverman told The Times she had the conversation with Wakefield when she bumped into him on a trip to Chillingham Castle in the northeastern English county of Northumberland.

Wakefield is said to have compared Johnson's condition to that of an injured horse that is brought back too early.


Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/dominic-cummings-father-in-law-boris-johnson-will-resign-february-2020-8

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Boris Johnson plans to resign in 6 months because of lingering coronavirus health problems (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
This is SO IMPORTANT. Many survivors are left with possibly chronic life altering conditions. Freethinker65 Aug 2020 #1
good riddance but this is the other little discussed fact about the pandemic Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #2
My concern is effects that may manifest decades later DBoon Aug 2020 #5
The Republican plan for them Dopers_Greed Aug 2020 #8
"The Die Quickly and Don't Make Us Look Bad" plan durablend Aug 2020 #36
Exactly PatSeg Aug 2020 #28
Wonder if he thinks it's all a HOAX?? Bengus81 Aug 2020 #3
Johnson never claimed it was a hoax... brooklynite Aug 2020 #4
Trump said CV is a HOAX....I asked if Johnson THINKS it's a hoax Bengus81 Aug 2020 #15
The answer remains the same: brooklynite Aug 2020 #22
Wow...so you can read minds and KNOW what his thoughts are?? And your privy to everything he's said? Bengus81 Aug 2020 #31
Why do you think he was any more impressed with Trump's intelligent than you are? brooklynite Aug 2020 #32
Why...hell,guess he did in so many words just as I thought and posted. Bengus81 Aug 2020 #33
Well, looks like poor BoJo culled himself from his own herd. ananda Aug 2020 #6
UK has all the luck. USA gets screwed. NCjack Aug 2020 #7
My thought Scarsdale Aug 2020 #19
Same here. Nt raccoon Aug 2020 #30
Wow. BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #9
Thanks for that information bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #20
And THIS makes me so damned angry at acquaintances who initially claimed it was no worse than flu groundloop Aug 2020 #25
Enjoy your retirement, asshole Yeehah Aug 2020 #10
Herd immunity. It's a plausible idea unless you're the one getting culled. n/t Eyeball_Kid Aug 2020 #12
Why wait? He must think the " lingering effects" will get livetohike Aug 2020 #11
He wants to get his racist cabal in line. n/m RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #27
Here it's "my cousin knows a guy in Indiana whose sister dates..." davsand Aug 2020 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2020 #29
At least he is admitting it. The latent, ravaging effects are still being understood. Evolve Dammit Aug 2020 #14
But But But...... COL Mustard Aug 2020 #16
I can feel sorry for that poor bugger, he had to learn the hard way Warpy Aug 2020 #17
He'll be relieved not to have to deal with Brexit. NT enough Aug 2020 #18
BREXIT is an oven ready pie, so simple IronLionZion Aug 2020 #21
British media uniformly denying this story.... hlthe2b Aug 2020 #23
Brits should be so bloody lucky IronLionZion Aug 2020 #24
there is a side story to this, just think of the millions of survivors just in this country that hellno45 Aug 2020 #26
Perhaps SS disability is why Trump is in a big rush Delmette2.0 Aug 2020 #34
good point. nt hellno45 Aug 2020 #35

Freethinker65

(10,029 posts)
1. This is SO IMPORTANT. Many survivors are left with possibly chronic life altering conditions.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:52 AM
Aug 2020

Very few are discussing this. Perhaps it will finally get attention.

Voltaire2

(13,095 posts)
2. good riddance but this is the other little discussed fact about the pandemic
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 09:54 AM
Aug 2020

the survivors are suffering from a lot of long term complications.

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
5. My concern is effects that may manifest decades later
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:03 AM
Aug 2020

Young survivors may feel OK initially, but after decades lung scarring and other damage becomes crippling.

Like how polio survivors may suffer from post-polio syndrome.

How are we going to handle tens of thousands of disabled middle aged adults?

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
28. Exactly
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 PM
Aug 2020

and we don't know if some of these complications are permanent. Even x-rays of people who had no symptoms have shown damage to the lungs and heart. We don't know if that damage is permanent.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
15. Trump said CV is a HOAX....I asked if Johnson THINKS it's a hoax
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:45 AM
Aug 2020

Not hard to understand the question IMO when they both know each other. Maybe our MEDIA should be playing that Trump phrase at one of his NAZI rally's at the end of Feb over and over seeing how Trump is determined to re-write his history of coming to our rescue.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
22. The answer remains the same:
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

He never claimed it was a hoax; there's no reason to believe he "thought" otherwise.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
31. Wow...so you can read minds and KNOW what his thoughts are?? And your privy to everything he's said?
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:17 PM
Aug 2020

My post STANDS, I wonder IF he thought CV was a HOAX when his BUDDY Trump was touting it as such in February?

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
32. Why do you think he was any more impressed with Trump's intelligent than you are?
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 06:32 PM
Aug 2020

And if he believed it was a hoax, what reason would he have not to express it?

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
33. Why...hell,guess he did in so many words just as I thought and posted.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 07:38 PM
Aug 2020

"As the man who led his country out of the European Union, Johnson has often evoked his idea of British-ness, the unflappable belief that the country is different and all will be well. Indeed, it helped him to an emphatic election victory in December. But making light of a crisis has now landed Johnson in trouble."


"On March 16, after weeks of downplaying the issue, he suddenly urged all U.K. citizens to stay at home and avoid unnecessary contact with other people. It would be the prelude to more action that would shut the nation down. Yet later that evening, Johnson made light of the situation on a call with the manufacturers he was trying to persuade to produce thousands of urgently needed ventilators for hospitals. He joked that their task should be code-named “Operation Last Gasp.”

BumRushDaShow

(129,236 posts)
9. Wow.
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:10 AM
Aug 2020

So many doctors and other health professionals who have treated and continue to treat victims of this continue to report how it ravages different parts of the body (probably dependent on the initial viral load and any underlying health issues).

It often continues to damage the lungs and often the heart over time, even after someone is supposedly "officially" (in quotes) listed as "recovered", and that damage (particularly due to the period where one experiences low oxygen levels in the bloodstream) can lead to renal damage and/or complete failure (something recently reported about more and more as they were finding so many requiring dialysis while in intensive care).

The Philly Inquirer just had an article on that a few days ago -

The coronavirus is damaging kidneys. Doctors worry that some survivors will need dialysis forever.

by Stacey Burling, Posted: August 23, 2020


When the new coronavirus stormed the Northeast this year, Alan Kliger, a Yale University kidney specialist, thought it would behave like a typical respiratory virus. There had been signals from China that the new disease was hard on kidneys, but nephrologists like Kliger were not prepared for what happened when cases surged in New York. So many patients suffered kidney injury that dialysis supplies ran short. Two studies of New York patients found that 68% to 76% of intensive-care patients with COVID-19 had kidney damage. In one, a third of ICU patients needed dialysis, a process in which a machine performs the kidney’s blood-filtering work.

It is too early to know whether survivors of serious COVID-19 will have long-lasting kidney damage, but doctors are worried. “People are just waking up to the fact that the kidney is an unappreciated manifestation [of COVID-19] but one that is pretty important,” said Girish Nadkarni, a nephrologist and researcher at Mount Sinai Health System in New York. “There might be an epidemic of post-coronavirus kidney disease coming.”

Sonia Toure’s story is what Nadkarni fears. Toure, 54, who worked as a research coordinator for City University of New York in the spring, had no chronic health problems before her first symptom of COVID-19 — a single cough — during a work Zoom meeting on March 25. Within a day, she had a sore throat and 103-degree fever, but no breathing problems. Over the next few days, there was more fever along with aches and pains that made her feel as if a mob had beaten her. For one blessed day, she thought she was getting better, but by April 7, she knew she had to go to the hospital.

At Mount Sinai, doctors discovered she was in kidney failure and started dialysis. She had pneumonia, but never needed a ventilator. After 35 days in the hospital, she went home on May 12 to her two sons, aged 19 and 21, and two German shepherds. The next day, a doctor called with the results of her kidney biopsy. “The doctor said there was absolutely no hope, that my kidneys were so damaged I would never recover,” she said. “I would have to be on dialysis the rest of my life until I could get a transplant.”


https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-covid-kidneys-dialysis-mount-sinai-northwell-nephrologist-20200823.html


This shit is nothing to play with and joke about.

bucolic_frolic

(43,239 posts)
20. Thanks for that information
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:03 AM
Aug 2020

Sounds like COVID is something to fear a lot more than disappearing suburbs and imaginary leftist hoards.

And the cost of dialysis! For hundreds of thousands of patients.

groundloop

(11,520 posts)
25. And THIS makes me so damned angry at acquaintances who initially claimed it was no worse than flu
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 11:26 AM
Aug 2020

I have a few acquaintances who were parroting tRump's talking points early on that this was nothing to worry about, no worse than catching the flu, blah blah blah. I just really want to reach through my computer monitor and punch them in the face.

davsand

(13,421 posts)
13. Here it's "my cousin knows a guy in Indiana whose sister dates..."
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:33 AM
Aug 2020

While we NEED to be discussing long term damage from COVID, the actual sources for this story are a lot like hearing urban legends. I'd be more inclined to trust the information if it was less hearsay.

Sorry if I offend, but I think it'll be at least 6 months before anybody can assess its reliability.





Laura

Response to davsand (Reply #13)

COL Mustard

(5,913 posts)
16. But But But......
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:46 AM
Aug 2020

It's just the flu...and no worse than the common cold. And 99% of everybody recovers!

Or else it's a worldwide conspiracy!!!

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
17. I can feel sorry for that poor bugger, he had to learn the hard way
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 10:53 AM
Aug 2020

but at least he had the intellectual capacity to learn, unlike the version Putin stuck us with.

I've noticed he's slowed down a lot, as have friends in the UK. He isn't the swaggering blowhard he once was. I imagine his aftereffects are easy fatigue and getting winded if he has to climb stairs. Those are the most common ones. He might feel like he's got brain fog, but I haven't noticed it much, unlike the version Putin stuck us with.

I'm sure the version Putin stuck us with has had a dose of the Russian vaccine hand delivered by diplomatic pouch. We can only hope it's RNA based and wasn't transported correctly and was completely degraded by the time he got it. Note that I'm hoping the Russian vaccine is otherwise safe and effective, the Russian people haven't done anything to piss me off. He has.

hellno45

(67 posts)
26. there is a side story to this, just think of the millions of survivors just in this country that
Tue Aug 25, 2020, 12:07 PM
Aug 2020

will suffer the same fate, will be needing SS disability, the horrors have just begun.

Delmette2.0

(4,168 posts)
34. Perhaps SS disability is why Trump is in a big rush
Wed Aug 26, 2020, 08:49 AM
Aug 2020

to eliminate the Payroll Taxes. There was a report out yesterday that disability benefits wouldn't last half way through 2021.

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