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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:53 PM Oct 2012

Arkansas Republicans' comments on slavery, Muslims stir controversy

Source: Reuters

Republicans in Arkansas are struggling to get past the controversy generated by a state lawmaker who wrote that slavery might have benefited blacks and a candidate who has advocated expelling Muslims from the United States.

The Republican politicians' comments have been roundly criticized and have created an opportunity for Democrats ahead of the November 6 election. Arkansas has a Democratic governor but has voted Republican in the past three presidential elections.

In his self-published 2009 book titled "Letters to the Editor: Confessions of a Frustrated Conservative," state Representative Jon Hubbard of Jonesboro, Arkansas, writes that "the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise."

Hubbard, a retired teacher and Vietnam veteran who was elected to the statehouse in 2010, also wrote, "Wouldn't life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?"


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/06/us-usa-politics-arkansas-idUSBRE8950FU20121006

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Arkansas Republicans' comments on slavery, Muslims stir controversy (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2012 OP
That's like saying the Holocaust was a good thing PlanetBev Oct 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #23
Jon Hubbard Godless in Seattle Oct 2012 #2
Welcome to DU from Tacoma!!! gopiscrap Oct 2012 #47
Nasty man James48 Oct 2012 #3
Are they going to win? jwirr Oct 2012 #25
They Will If We Refuse To Participate Politically YOHABLO Oct 2012 #39
Probably, one only has to realize that their ideas are common in Batesville and sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #59
That is what I was asking specifically. I have relatives living in Arkansas. jwirr Oct 2012 #62
I don't know why people get worked up over this. Turbineguy Oct 2012 #4
I don't know. Maybe because his comments are cruel and bigoted and WRONG and people's efhmc Oct 2012 #36
Yes but his position of power comes from exboyfil Oct 2012 #56
Of course he might be right, so in order to test his thesis I suggest that Jon undergo a 7 year grantcart Oct 2012 #5
As a Black man I feel that I must say.... 6502 Oct 2012 #21
welcome to DU and thanks grantcart Oct 2012 #28
Please. please e-mail this idea to him. I want him to do this experiment. efhmc Oct 2012 #33
Now that you mention it, that's a really good suggestion. yardwork Oct 2012 #45
+10 !!! (NT) reACTIONary Oct 2012 #46
You know, I have used defacto7 Oct 2012 #6
^^ abolugi Oct 2012 #9
Hate! Rain Mcloud Oct 2012 #7
I bet he is tea party. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #8
This is the real face of the repig party. xfundy Oct 2012 #10
The Tea Party. Bless their pointed little heads. n/t Strelnikov_ Oct 2012 #11
Petition calling for resignation bluetexas Oct 2012 #12
His Facebook page bluetexas Oct 2012 #13
I'm so glad that a white man is finally talking sense to black people! Scootaloo Oct 2012 #14
Not just the white privileged - whte scum as well. jwirr Oct 2012 #26
If you have to self-publish your book it is likely because it is a piece of crap bluestateguy Oct 2012 #15
They do our work for us by simply being themselves. truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #16
"...Democratic governor but has voted Republican in the past three presidential elections..." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #17
Down here in the Natural State, it's all about god and guns but don't trust a GOP governor Hestia Oct 2012 #18
Some of it may be remnants of the DLC. They wrote off a lot of "Red States" and left a token staff.. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #19
Since 1968, Arkansas has voted for the Democratic candidate Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #30
The South has had more than it's share of corrupt Republicans who remind you of "Boss Hogg". Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #35
That's not how it is in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #49
That's where Clinton got his "Conservadem" boogie on. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #50
Clinton actually tried to be a liberal governor in his first term Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #51
Did you know Liberals were pissed when he picked Gore? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #52
I never heard that before Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #53
His wife Tipper used to spout that "family values" crap like a Republican.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #54
Where are you? Very active Democratic Party in Washington County. sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #61
Until 2010, 3 out of 4 Congressmen and both Senators were Democrats as well. Now it's sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #60
Did anyone explain oldsarge54 Oct 2012 #20
Will the Kocksuckers pull out their $ now? pstokely Oct 2012 #22
No. Joe Bacon Oct 2012 #44
send him a note Botany Oct 2012 #24
Wow... davidthegnome Oct 2012 #27
The Rape of Nanking has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may have been a blessing Suji to Seoul Oct 2012 #29
Does Jon understand it was *illegal* to teach slaves to read and write? DBoon Oct 2012 #31
This kind of stuff doesn't surprise me anymore. iandhr Oct 2012 #32
Would you please add his e-mail address and the petition link to your orginal post. efhmc Oct 2012 #34
"Wouldn't life for Republicans be better if they learned to appreciate a good education?" yurbud Oct 2012 #37
I wonder if that nitwit knows "Muslim problem" is a direct echo of "Jewish problem"? yurbud Oct 2012 #38
To Think That This Guy Was a Teacher Makes Me Vomit YOHABLO Oct 2012 #40
It's easy to say when it is not you, Brother. BrainMann1 Oct 2012 #41
he now thinks it is acceptable to say in public madrchsod Oct 2012 #42
Hey Hubbard! If slavery was so great, why don't you become a slave yourself? muntrv Oct 2012 #43
What the hell Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #48
I had this argument with my ex-wife's grandmother, once... neeksgeek Oct 2012 #55
"I see no solution to the Muslim problem short of..." ck4829 Oct 2012 #57
I'll bet he thinks the civil war was fought over states rights SpartanDem Oct 2012 #58

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
1. That's like saying the Holocaust was a good thing
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012

At least we have Israel now.

Jeez...Everyday there's more shit I can't fucking believe. I keep hoping I'll wake up from this nightmare.

Response to PlanetBev (Reply #1)

James48

(4,436 posts)
3. Nasty man
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012
"Charles Fuqua of Batesville, Arkansas, is currently seeking a House of Representatives seat. His e-book "God's Law: The Only Political Solution" came out in April on Amazon.

"I see no solution to the Muslim problem short of expelling all followers of the religion from the United States," he writes in his book, according to The Arkansas Times newspaper.

Fuqua, an attorney, served as a state representative from 1995 to 1998 before losing a state senate race.

Neither Hubbard nor Fuqua could be reached for comment. Both are running for election in November.


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I cry daily for the hatred and ignorance that festers across our great nation.
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
39. They Will If We Refuse To Participate Politically
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:09 PM
Oct 2012

We have to fight back by placing sane, rational, and educated people in office as our representatives. If we don't, the consequences will be horrific.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
59. Probably, one only has to realize that their ideas are common in Batesville and
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 08:15 AM
Oct 2012

Jonesboro. I live in NW Arkansas.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
4. I don't know why people get worked up over this.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

It should be expected by now. There is no limit to ignorance.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
36. I don't know. Maybe because his comments are cruel and bigoted and WRONG and people's
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
Oct 2012

attention should be drawn to them to help reveal the true face of the Republican party.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
56. Yes but his position of power comes from
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 06:59 AM
Oct 2012

his party being in control of the House. Linking that fact can be useful in other congressional races. Put other Republicans on the spot by asking them if someone who thinks the earth is 9,000 years old should be on the Science Committee. It really is pretty embarrassing.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. Of course he might be right, so in order to test his thesis I suggest that Jon undergo a 7 year
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:22 PM
Oct 2012

period of slavery picking cotton the ole fashioned way.

Of course to really see the benefits we would have to sell his wife and children away as well.

It is an experiment that would interest me a great deal and I would be most interested in hearing his opinions if 7 years after he had a chance to experience it himself.

6502

(249 posts)
21. As a Black man I feel that I must say....
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:59 AM
Oct 2012

.... that this idea is TOTALLY EPIC!!!!!!

I SO WISH I HAD THOUGH IT THIS!!!!!

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
6. You know, I have used
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:26 PM
Oct 2012

all the rotten words I can use for these kind of people and I am fresh out of things bad enough to say. I am speechless at the cruel stupidity of these jackasses.

abolugi

(417 posts)
9. ^^
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

Boy... you and me both! After awhile what else is there to say about these Neanderthals... (and I DO apologize to all the Neanderthals who may be lurking for the comparison..)

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
7. Hate!
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:31 PM
Oct 2012

The core of their values.
Now that the layers on the onion have been peeled away after being exposed as bullshit,the ugly inside has been exposed.
It's quite poetic actually,the Cuckold has to wear the horns proudly.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
10. This is the real face of the repig party.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 11:54 PM
Oct 2012

Most of the rest of them only talk like this at the dinner table, after church.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. I'm so glad that a white man is finally talking sense to black people!
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:19 AM
Oct 2012

It's been so long in coming!


It's like Hubbard is campaigning to be the spokesperson of White Privilege... Oh.. .He's a Republican? Guess he won then.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
15. If you have to self-publish your book it is likely because it is a piece of crap
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:21 AM
Oct 2012

When no publisher will bite that means they are trying to tell you something.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. "...Democratic governor but has voted Republican in the past three presidential elections..."
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:25 AM
Oct 2012

Am I the only one to find this kinda weird?

I mean, if we believe the hype that "Red Sates" consider "Demoncrats" to be pure evil than why do they pick them to run their state?

Could it be the presidential elections are rigged?

..............................................................naw,......can't be.......

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
18. Down here in the Natural State, it's all about god and guns but don't trust a GOP governor
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:28 AM
Oct 2012

especially after Huckabuck. Along with that though, I blame the state Democratic party. Where in the hell are they? NEVER quoted in the paper, NEVER quote on tv news segments, EVER! I personally thought that as an Obama contributor, they would be knocking on my door asking for something, canvassing, whatever, but unless you are ensconced in their little clique, they don't want to hear from outsiders. If people aren't aware that there is another party besides the teabaggers, then who are you going to vote for? Also, remember Turd Blossom got his little buddy in as federal prosecutor and then he won 2nd district. It's neck and neck right now on that race. Dare we hope we get the Democratic Party back where it belongs in Ark & DC where they belong?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
30. Since 1968, Arkansas has voted for the Democratic candidate
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:19 AM
Oct 2012

only when he was a Southern governor. In other words, only 3 times-- 1976 for Jimmy Carter, and 1992 and 1996 for local boy Bill Clinton (and I'm not counting George Wallace in 1968, who had been a Democratic governor of a Southern state but ran on the American Independent Party ticket and won Arkansas's electoral votes). The thing is, Arkansans tend to be distrustful of the national Democratic Party, while the Democrats win state offices easily enough because they tend to be good ol' boys who steer clear of issues that cause Democrats to lose votes in Bible Belt states.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
49. That's not how it is in Arkansas
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:40 AM
Oct 2012

The closest thing we've had to a "Boss Hogg" Republican is Huckabee. And he wasn't particularly corrupt, just addle-headed.

The state has had only 3 Republican governors since 1876 (all of them since 1966, serving a total time of 16 years), and only 2 US Senators who have been Republican since that time (including the current one elected in 2010). The Democratic Party nearly always controls the state offices (in 2010, for example, there were few Republican candidates for state offices; token opposition to Democrats was offered by the Green Party). The state legislature (of which the "slavery wasn't so bad" legislator is a member) is almost always Democratic. The votes in elections are tallied by county officials, nearly all of whom are Democrats, and the final tally for statewide and national offices is authorized by the Secretary of State, who also is almost always a Democrat.

In Presidential elections, however, the state almost always goes for the Republican candidate because of the "guns, gays and abortion" issues that are the driving force of so many of the state's voters for national offices. And when the Republican presidential candidate wins the state's electoral votes, it's always by a sizable majority-- usually 55-45%, or even 60-40%. Thus, unless the Democratic candidate is a Southern governor, diverting presidential campaign money to Arkansas by the national Democratic Party has been a lost cause since 1968 (although I believe the state would have gone for RFK in '68).

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
51. Clinton actually tried to be a liberal governor in his first term
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 01:53 AM
Oct 2012

He was first elected in 1978, at a time when national politics were much more liberal than today. However, he was defeated by Frank White in 1980, who was riding on Reagan's ultraconservative coattails. Clinton came back to defeat White in 1982, but by then he had toned down his liberalism.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
52. Did you know Liberals were pissed when he picked Gore?
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 02:16 AM
Oct 2012

Gore was a known ConservaDem and Clinton actually said that he needed him to balance the ticket because he, himself was too Liberal.

Seems weird now.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
53. I never heard that before
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 03:25 AM
Oct 2012

In 1992, I had no Internet and was out of the state for the whole year, and my main information was coming from AP News feeds on the local cable TV community station, and the occasional blurb on AFRTS. I had heard that he had picked Gore for "balance", but I don't remember hearing the reason why.

But yes, that does seem weird now.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
54. His wife Tipper used to spout that "family values" crap like a Republican....
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 04:17 AM
Oct 2012

Another reason he picked Gore was because Gore had served in Vietnam while Clinton was called a draft dodger.

Now look at who the Republicans are running.

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
60. Until 2010, 3 out of 4 Congressmen and both Senators were Democrats as well. Now it's
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 08:21 AM
Oct 2012

turning entirely 'red.' There's a real chance that come Nov. 7, Gov. Beebe will face a GOP majority in both the state house and senate.

oldsarge54

(582 posts)
20. Did anyone explain
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:54 AM
Oct 2012

Just how the terrible loses endured in the Middle Passage was a blessing in disquise? How about the deliberate division of families. How about selling this Republican to a black family? Make him walk a few miles in slave slippers and find out what it was like. Sick.

As for the anti-muslim commentator, does he really believe in the Constituion?

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
27. Wow...
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:48 AM
Oct 2012

Just when you think the stupid is so overwhelming it can't get any more profound... this asshole comes out with this

""Wouldn't life for blacks in America today be more enjoyable and successful if they would only learn to appreciate the value of a good education?" "


I don't know Sir, why don't you ask any of the black graduates you know? Why not come over to my University here in Northern Maine - and ask them if they appreciate the value of a good education. They're working their asses off and I have no doubt that at least the majority of them will become productive and decent members of society. I have no doubt at all, Sir, that they will become far better educated than you. You were a teacher? Seriously?

I strongly suggest that you return to school. It seems that you do not appreciate the value of a good education.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
29. The Rape of Nanking has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may have been a blessing
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:02 AM
Oct 2012

in disguise.

Look at the decrease in population it caused. . .and how many women were introduced to new, exciting lovers?

WHAT A FUCKING CREEP!!! REPUBLICAN FROM THE SOUTH!!!! NOT FUCKING SURPRISED!!!!

DBoon

(22,369 posts)
31. Does Jon understand it was *illegal* to teach slaves to read and write?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:47 AM
Oct 2012

and that one of the great accomplishments of the Freedmen's Bureau after the Civil War was to establish a public education system missing in the South?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
37. "Wouldn't life for Republicans be better if they learned to appreciate a good education?"
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
Oct 2012

Instead of telling each other over and over about Jesus riding dinosaurs and economic darwinism?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
38. I wonder if that nitwit knows "Muslim problem" is a direct echo of "Jewish problem"?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 02:40 PM
Oct 2012

You read Mein Kampf too often, it starts to seep out in your writing.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
40. To Think That This Guy Was a Teacher Makes Me Vomit
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:15 PM
Oct 2012

Unfortunately, there are many so called ''teachers'' out there filling young people's heads full of shit. They are teaching on every level .. from elementary through college ... and like sponges the young eat this shit up. Don't forget that Newt was a college professor as well. Yuck.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
42. he now thinks it is acceptable to say in public
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:27 PM
Oct 2012

he`s always said such thing in private.

we really have sunk to the bottom of political discourse in this country

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
55. I had this argument with my ex-wife's grandmother, once...
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 06:17 AM
Oct 2012

Her basic theory was that "colored people" (her words, this was in 1997!), were happier when they were segregated, and even happier when they were slaves (she was old but not that old...).

I told her that what she meant was, people like her were happier. She didn't like that one bit.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
57. "I see no solution to the Muslim problem short of..."
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 07:27 AM
Oct 2012

Wasn't there another guy who thought up 'solutions' to 'problem' populations?

SpartanDem

(4,533 posts)
58. I'll bet he thinks the civil war was fought over states rights
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 07:42 AM
Oct 2012

150+ years later and you still have assholes from the South trying to justify their past.

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