'We're all f**ked': Trump insiders say that now he has Covid, the election is over

[Dr. Jack]

Source: The Independent

Just hours after telling attendees at the Alfred E Smith Memorial Foundation’s annual dinner that an end to the pandemic was in sight, Donald Trump’s name was added to the long list of those who’ve been afflicted by it.

Like so many of the consequential announcements he has made during his presidency, Trump broke the news that he — along with his wife Melania — had tested positive for Covid-19 with a post to his Twitter account shortly before 1am on Friday. An official announcement came roughly ten minutes later, under the signature of Commander Sean Conley, the Navy Medical Corps officer who serves as physician to the President.

According to Trumpworld sources, political strategists, and other Washington insiders, the President’s disclosure of his positive Covid-19 test may well have had another purpose: Announcing the de facto end of his hopes of re-election.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-covid-administration-insiders-mike-pence-election-over-b749588.html?utm_source=reddit.com

[TwilightZone]

1. It was already over.

They just couldn't acknowledge it.

[Dr. Jack]

4. I agree

People are still going to scream "just vote! Don't get complacent!" (Because I'm sure there are lot of people on the Democratic Underground who are undecided or are unlikely to vote) but all this does is drops Trump's already very low chances of being reelected even further. It's like he is going from 7% chance to 5% chance. It just adds to the pile of problems of his own making.

[C Moon]

6. Let me be the first: JUST VOTE!!!

[Auggie]

14. +1

[bronxiteforever]

34. +1 exactly.

[not fooled]

61. YES

There's another dirty trick hidden in their acknowledgement that red don is kaput--hoping some people think they no longer have to bother voting.

[bdamomma]

81. Exactly

voting is our right. Vote because your life depends on it.

[durablend]

8. Keep in mind

This "development" isn't going to stop the bad actors out there from throwing away people's votes or intimidating people. If anything it might be payback to them ("Damn leftists infected our savior! " )

[certainot]

59. there are a lot of republican politicians that are going to be desperate to save their asses

[TwilightZone]

9. I don't begrudge anyone for being cautious, especially with the EC involved.

I think the 20% that 538 tags him with is probably about right, though it's falling quickly. There are some undecideds, but he'd basically need to sweep them just to make it close, much less win. Independents seem to be flocking to Biden.

All that being said, Biden's lead is massive and the race has been historically stable. I just don't see anything changing that. This isn't 2016 - in that cycle, Trump was trending upward at the very end, in part thanks to Comey and it boiled down to 70k votes in three states. He's not going to roll sevens a dozen times in a row again.

[Stand and Fight]

13. Yeah. That's it. Those of us who say just vote are the problem.

We're wild-eyed loons and folks like yourself are objective. Thanks for your opinion and welcome to DU.

[Tommymac]

26. It could give The Killer Clown a sympathy bump.

So I'm SCREAMING

GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV

[TheRealNorth]

36. There are House seats, Senate seats, state reps and senators, local races, etc.

we don't need the Turtle holding open a supreme court seat for multiple years until the next Republican president gets in.

[whopis01]

43. Exactly - this is why pushing for people to get out and vote is always the right thing.

There is an incredible opportunity to win many seats and all levels of government. In red states, as well as blue states. There are many important races that are much tighter than the Presidency.

[TwilightZone]

51. Of course.

If Biden has any coattails at all, and I'm quite certain they will be formidable, we'll make gains at all of those levels.

[RussellCattle]

71. Exactly. If Joe Biden looks like a shoo-in, the Trump supporters will stay home making this....

....an amazing opportunity to GOTV and winning numerous other races down in the tickets.

[Earthshine2]

42. We need as large a margin as possible, with long, down-ballot coattails. nt

Don't give them any sympathy because Trump has the virus (caught solely due to his arrogance).

Now is the time to charge and run roughshod all over them.

How many SC judge slots did they steal?

[Vogon_Glory]

65. It's like that vulgar drawing of the guy sitting on the toilet

captioned “The job isn’t finished until you do the paperwork!”.

Make sure he’s flushed. Vote.

[not_the_one]

80. I would be willing to bet there isn't one single person on the DU that is "undecided".

I'm sure there are lurkers who do nothing but read that may be undecided, but someone who has joined?

Not likely.

Undecideds (at this point in the "game') are nothing more than stealth trump humpers who don't have the courage to admit they are knowingly and willingly supporting a fascist Putin puppet. Plus they want to skew any data being gathered.

But that is just my take on "undecideds". YMMV

[lagomorph777]

17. This is the cherry on top.

[SpankMe]

50. Total horseshit

No one thought Trump could beat Hillary in 2016. He was a laughing stock and Hillary was a professional. So many people thought it was an impossibility that they stayed home on election night - thinking Hillary was a forgone conclusion - and the Orange Menace won.

There was much pre-hatched chicken counting going on everywhere - especially here on DU - that drew people into a false sense of security about a Hillary victory.

Under no circumstances should we Dems, libs and progressives say anything like "it's already over" a whole month before the election - no matter how bad it looks for Trump. Those assholes on the right don't care about democracy and the will of the people. They aren't trying to win by presenting their vision for America and bringing people to their side with open and honest reasoning.

Rather, they are engineering their victories through voter suppression, sowing division, working electoral college math, pressing their 2-senators-per-state advantage for all it's worth, tacitly accepting foreign influence, running the Senate like a mob family, and everything else we read about every day.

It's not over. Not by a longshot. Stop saying it. Stop thinking it. Get out the vote.

[TwilightZone]

52. The presidential race is almost certainly a done deal.

This isn't 2016. Trump had to have three dozen things go exactly right and only won because of a pathetic field of Republican losers in the primaries, voter suppression, Comey, and a fluke of the electoral system.

He's not going to make up an 8% deficit. There are indications that it might be higher now.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't vote. We need to make sure that he gets a Congress amenable to his agenda and make gains at all levels. I think you're confusing confidence based on reality with complacency. We should be more motivated than ever.

[Codeine]

60. Yep. This is just the final cherry on top. nt

[Thekaspervote]

2. One can hope!!

[doc03]

3. He can blame the Chinah virus for losing nt

[Claustrum]

12. I don't care about what Trump blame as long as he lost n/t

[lastlib]

58. He can and will, but....

Bottom line is, it's HIS OWN. DAMN. FAULT. And no one else's. And he will NEVER accept responsibility for it. And we will have to listen to his whine for the rest of his pathetic life.

[Karma13612]

67. No,no, it's

“Ghina”



Someone else on DU spelled it that way, and I think it’s perfect!

[Statistical]

5. While I don't agree with the headline that it is over I do agree with the general premise

Dumpy is desperate to get the election conversation on anything other than COVID because his polling on that is terrible. The more people think about COVID the worse he does because it is a constant reminder of how he choked and failed.

Any chance to pivot away from COVID and towards any other narrative for the next two weeks is dead. I mean as the article points out his economic adviser was being asked questions about mask policies. Dumpy shouldn't be allowed to whistle past the graveyard when it comes to his COVID failures and now at least for the next couple weeks he won't be able to.

[bucolic_frolic]

6. I doubt he has COVID, he just figures he's better off with sympathy and no more debates

In three weeks he'll emerge from hiding and pronounce a miracle cure, direct from God and wave his Bible.

Don't get fooled by a charlatan.

[greenjar_01]

11. Is Mike Lee and the Pres of Notre Dame in on it?

Come on.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. I wanna believe, but now that he's sick we should believe him?

Which shows how much doubt and disbelief he's spread. I mean, the hoax got the hoaxer?

[lagomorph777]

19. No, he's gravely ill.

Has been silent all day. This is 100% a terrible story for him; he would never want to fake it. Unless, as somebody on DU said, he's planning to fake his own death and escape to Russia.

[niyad]

22. Or joining ken lay.

[Delphinus]

33. Oh my ...

Someone else is thinking what I am - faking his death and escaping?!

[LuvNewcastle]

48. I thought that, too.

I can't help thinking this is too good to be true. With enough billionaires on your side, anything can happen.

[whopis01]

44. He averaged 33 tweets per day for the first half of the year.

Now it has been 15 hours without one. He isn't doing well at all.

[bdamomma]

82. I thought

the same thing, Vlad would set him up in Siberia!

[Stand and Fight]

10. Bullshit. It ain't over till people have voted in HUGE NUMBERS and the votes are counted.

This false sense of security is exactly what we don't need right now. Vote as if the son-of-a-bitch is the threat that he represents. Vote like your life and livelihood depends on it, because they do.

[Auggie]

15. +1

[orangecrush]

40. Beavo!

[JDC]

41. I Agree 100

[rockfordfile]

68. I agree

[world wide wally]

16. Trumps positive test on Corona just PROVES what a failure his approach to the pandemic has been

200,000 plus dead wasn't good enough for the MAGATs.
Now they can get it right from the horse's mouth.

[BlueWavePsych]

18. Dead or Alive ... GOTV

[Stuart G]

25. Yes, Go To Vote no matter what..I don't want to vote, because I am a very blue state..

But my vote is important to the over all tally. Plus, I must vote because that is the correct thing to do,
and I have never missed a presidential election. I must also vote to sooth my conscience in case the
impossible happens again. As has been said before, "It ain't over till it is over"

[bdamomma]

83. Just vote

everyone we got to flip both houses, and at the state/local levels.

VOTE BLUE ALL THE WAY!! WE GOT TO GET THE REPIGS OUT.

[niyad]

20. Hey, kiddies, start updating your resumes. . .although. . .i hear that working with traitor tot's

Kkklown show is going to prove unhelpful, and perhaps even negative. Oh. .well. . .

[CaptYossarian]

21. His past week went as well as Lt. Drebin sneaking around in Ricardo Montalban's office.

The taxes, the debate, and now this.

Plus, he's quarantined with Melania. How much suffering can two people endure?

As long as he's better by the trial and sentencing.

[niyad]

24. They already have separate bedrooms. Somehow, I do not think that proximity will be an issue.

[BComplex]

35. So far, Melania evidently doesn't have symptoms

I imagine she's separated from him in the white house somewhere.

[onetexan]

23. Karma's a b!tch, aint it?

[concretebluetwo]

55. Karma's.....

Only a Bitch if you are.

[WhiteTara]

72. nice.

Welcome to DU!

[AC_Mem]

28. I have always told my kids

friends, anyone who would listen that anger makes you susceptible to illness. I say - when you get sick, count back 3 days and see if there wasn't something that got you very angry, or you had an upsetting argument, etc. I got a text from my daughter this morning and she said "OMG mom - 45 was ballastic on Tuesday and showed positive on Friday - THREE DAYS".

Just test it yourself. I feel it has something to do with your anger/upset affecting your immune system, maybe cortisol? I'm not a doctor so I can't say scientifically but I am an energy worker and have seen this happen for the majority of my life, so I trust that SOMETHING happens in that 72 hour period, and it has to do with what anger and upset does to our body's health and wellness.

FWIW
Fondly
Annette
VOTE

[saidsimplesimon]

38. I agree and so does my PCP.

[mr_lebowski]

73. Trump is always like that though ...

While I wouldn't doubt that severe stress can increase one's chance of getting sick, I can also guarantee you people get sick w/o that happening ... like, all the time.

And similarly they don't get sick ... despite extreme stress 72 hours earlier. Like, all the time.

Just sayin'.

[Always Randy]

79. Anger and resentment

is like setting yourself on fire and hoping that the other guy dies

[bucolic_frolic]

29. The article also quoted Scaramucci

"Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, who has become a vocal Trump critic since his stint on Trump’s staff ended, said the President contracting the virus “is almost Mother Nature’s way of sending a signal that there’s something severely wrong with our society and what is going on right now”.

“He’s lied about the science, he’s lied about the marks, and it’s a result of his leadership that there’s hundreds of thousands of people who have died as a result…and hopefully this will be symbolism for people when they go to the voting booth,” he continued, adding that Trump’s dismissal of basic public health measures has been “almost criminally negligent” because it “set up a culture of unscientific dishonesty inside the White House”. That could be especially damaging to the President, considering poll upon poll which shows Americans trust Biden far more when it comes to handling the coronavirus pandemic."

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-covid-administration-insiders-mike-pence-election-over-b749588.html?utm_source=reddit.com

[NeoGreen]

30. We need to push the meme....

..."Trump Quits!"...he has admitted CV19 is real.

[Mike 03]

31. Would love to know the sources:

“Any hope he had of being able to change the conversation to things like protesters or the economy are all shot. And getting infected with Covid after standing on a stage at a presidential debate, mocking Joe Biden for wearing a mask, and then going to Bedminster knowing that he was potentially infected is — I think that that's just gonna be the end of it for voters,” he said.

[MarcA]

32. And Remember, GOTV for the Senate!

We must not allow moscow mitch or any of his clones to rule the Senate. And GOTV for the House too!

[Cha]

37. And, trump Mocking & Lying till the end..

[Mr.Bill]

39. Thanks to the White House track record on credibility,

I have no idea if he is not even sick or already dead. Neither would be a stretch given their honesty record.

[Chakaconcarne]

45. Well, I guess if it's all over there no need to GOTV.

I wouldn't buy this shit for a minute.....

These article are dangerous...

[LiberalLovinLug]

46. Priebus reportedly told Trump he would 'lose by the biggest landslide in American political history'

.....after the 'Access Hollywood' tape

Steve Bannon, President Donald Trump's former chief strategist, told CBS News' Charlie Rose that former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus advised Trump after the release of the bombshell "Access Hollywood" tape that he could either drop out of the race or face the worst electoral defeat in US history.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bannon-priebus-trump-access-hollywood-tape-2017-9


Yeah. How'd that work out? Surely by now we know that the deplorables are thoroughly brainwashed by now into the Trump cult. He literally now could murder someone in broad daylight and be exonerated by his cult followers. This changes NOTHING.
With all the cheating, the suppression we know about, but also including the plans we don't even know about, it will be a close election.

VOTE VOTE VOTE!

[avebury]

47. Absolutely we need to GOTV. We need to shoot for

the humiliation factor to drown him with votes for Joe and Kamala.

[IronLionZion]

49. It's not over. Let's win the Senate too

Republicans can go sulk somewhere and give up if they want. But Dems need to win big since GOP has already taken the Supreme Court and other federal courts.

[rickyhall]

53. Kentucky Dems: You know your duty. McConnell goes. Thank You

[halobeam]

63. very much this

[bdamomma]

84. Kentucky Dems

VOTE HIM OUT.

[BadGimp]

54. The last 2 lines say it all imo

...the president will no longer be able to act as if the virus will simply go away.

“We just can’t possibly predict what’s going to happen here,” he said. “But the happy talk is over.”

[lastlib]

56. I don't care, do U?

I hope he has to give his concession speech from a hospital bed! That will play on a continuous loop in my office for at least a week!

[LiberalArkie]

57. Trump may be wanting one of those grand horse drawn presidential funerals before

Biden takes office.

Something that money can not purchase.

[Grokenstein]

62. Make damn sure you vote anyway.

If anyone tells me they didn't afterwards, I'm going to wind up in prison.

[FakeNoose]

64. All Democrats everywhere must unite: We Must Get Out The Vote

We owe it to John Lewis, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and all the other progressive liberal leaders that we have lost!

We cannot drop the ball now. Let's keep our eyes on the prize!

[bdamomma]

85. Add Elijah Cummings

to that list too.

Our job is not finished DO NOT SIT OUT THIS ELECTION PLEASE.

We got to be sane again.

[rockfordfile]

69. The election is not over. Crap here we go again.

[Aussie105]

70. Oh look! Another distraction!

Trump has the virus!
. . . a distraction from:
Trump stuffed up in the debate. And told the PB to keep alert.
. . . a distraction from:
Trump's tax returns.
. . . a distraction from:
etc

All the way back to . . . "Obama is a muslim born in Kenya" and "A successful businessman can run the country better than any politician".

So, is this another distraction to cover for all the other previous wrong steps and distractions?

Whatever.

Look at this way . . . there are government replacements standing by if Trump is incapacitated permanently.

The USA can afford to lose him.

Unlike the thousands of families and relatives who have lost loved ones, friends, work mates. No replacement for them. All 211,000 of them.

So color me highly disinterested in Trump's fate. There is just no comparison.

[Cha]

74. The Sane World Hopes So, Maggots

[bdamomma]

86. Gee Cha

we are both on the same wavelength I just posted We got to be sane again.

[usajumpedtheshark]

75. Throw all the rat bastards out of office and into jail for what they have done to the country

[Linda Ed]

76. Secret Service

“Secret Service agents expressed their anger and frustration to colleagues and friends Friday, saying that the president’s actions have repeatedly put them at risk. “He’s never cared about us,” one agent told a confidant.” https://washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-seemed-to-defy-the-laws-of-science-and-disease-then-the-coronavirus-caught-up-with-him

washington post article

[FormerWIRepub]

77. Honestly

I’m becoming increasingly worried about the incubation period with VP Biden. Very worried he may have gotten it at the debate

[Baclava]

78. I won't be popping any champagne corks till I hear he's been put on a ventilator

[Lulu KC]

87. It was already over--but they give up pretty easily!

This seems very immature. Oh. Yeah. I forgot.