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T_i_B

(14,742 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:48 AM Oct 2020

UK Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism report

Source: BBC

Labour has suspended Jeremy Corbyn after an inquiry found the party responsible for "unlawful" harassment and discrimination when he was leader.

The UK's human rights watchdog, in its report on anti-Semitism in the party, also said his office had "politically interfered" in the complaints process.

Afterwards, Mr Corbyn said the scale of anti-Semitism within Labour had been "dramatically overstated".

Labour then said it was suspending him for a "failure to retract" his remarks. Mr Corbyn's successor as leader, Sir Keir Starmer, said the publication the Equality and Human Rights Commission's (EHRC) report had brought "a day of shame" for the party.

Read more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425



Want to know how we ended up with a useless incompetent moron like Boris Johnson as UK Prime Minister? Because his main opponent at last year's general election was Jeremy Corbyn. Easily the worst leader of the Labour party ever, whose time in the role was dogged by factional infighting, failure to stand up to the Tories over the disastrous project to leave the EU and endless anti-Semitism scandals.
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UK Labour suspends Jeremy Corbyn over anti-Semitism report (Original Post) T_i_B Oct 2020 OP
Micheal Foot is up there for worst labour leader My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #1
That was 1983 T_i_B Oct 2020 #7
Fixed. ty. My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #8
John Smith - the best Prime Minister we never had. Myrddin Oct 2020 #15
Wow, that's insane radical left Polybius Oct 2020 #20
In all fairness, I thought the anti-Semitism charges were exaggerated shotten99 Oct 2020 #2
not exaggerated at all JI7 Oct 2020 #3
Could you provide a link, showing how bad it was? Thanks TheRickles Oct 2020 #12
'Investigation finds unlawful acts of discrimination and harassment' My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #18
Thanks for the link, but this report is so oriented to bureaucratic process TheRickles Oct 2020 #22
Both have failed to do anything to actually get things done other than help people like Boris into JI7 Oct 2020 #23
Interesting comments to an article in today's Guardian (UK) about this issue. TheRickles Oct 2020 #25
Not exaggerated. Shameful. My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #4
The Equality and Human Rights Commission has released it's report into Labour's anti-Semitism issues T_i_B Oct 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Oct 2020 #13
I don't know how Corbyn lasted so long. ananda Oct 2020 #5
Wow. Sounds like Labour actually wants to start winning elections Jose Garcia Oct 2020 #9
He'd fit right in with the Trump administration. Initech Oct 2020 #10
No he wouldn't Polybius Oct 2020 #21
Corbyn has managed to almost single-handedly cripple the UK labour party. Happy Hoosier Oct 2020 #11
It's going to be a long trudge back to relevancy for Labour. BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #14
I've never fully understood the process of selecting (and removing) party leaders Steelrolled Oct 2020 #16
Cultism T_i_B Oct 2020 #17
Labour desperately needs an Obama or Trudeau type NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #19
Even a Macron type would help JI7 Oct 2020 #24

My Pet Orangutan

(9,290 posts)
1. Micheal Foot is up there for worst labour leader
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:10 AM
Oct 2020

Not an antisemite, no, but the 1983 manifesto included promises

Immediate nuclear disarmament
Immediate withdrawal from the EEC
Nationalization of the banks
Abolish the House of Lords

T_i_B

(14,742 posts)
7. That was 1983
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:32 AM
Oct 2020

By 1993 Labour was on the rise under John Smith and the Tories were struggling with sleaze and the repercussions of Black Wednesday.

As bad as Foot was, he didn't lurch from one anti-Semitism scandal to another.

Myrddin

(327 posts)
15. John Smith - the best Prime Minister we never had.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:03 PM
Oct 2020

I know it's well worn, but it's always worth repeating.

shotten99

(622 posts)
2. In all fairness, I thought the anti-Semitism charges were exaggerated
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

I never saw evidence of it, but then again, I wasn't watching closely enough.

TheRickles

(2,077 posts)
22. Thanks for the link, but this report is so oriented to bureaucratic process
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 07:55 AM
Oct 2020

that it's hard to know what was actually done or not done that was so egregious. The only specific acts described were some social media posts by 2 Labour politicians that included "antisemitic tropes". What did they actually say, that merited such a harsh penalty for the leader of the party to which they belonged? I'm biased because I liked Corbyn, saw him as a UK parallel to Bernie in the sense of being able to push his party further leftward. Same as with Bernie, there was strong institutional and media resistance, so I'm concerned that this expulsion was part of that process. I'm also Jewish, FWIW, and have seen the "antisemitism" being weaponized all over the place.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
23. Both have failed to do anything to actually get things done other than help people like Boris into
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:03 AM
Oct 2020

office .

TheRickles

(2,077 posts)
25. Interesting comments to an article in today's Guardian (UK) about this issue.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:45 AM
Oct 2020

Several commentators note the vagueness of the allegations against Corbyn, and the possibility that the more centrist Blairite wing of the Labour Party was behind these efforts to besmirch Corbyn (a life-long anti-racist campaigner). There's a strong parallel to the Clinton/DNC faction of the Democratic Party working to undermine Bernie (I know that view isn't popular on DU, but I think that dynamic was in play - the Establishment feeling threatened by an increasingly popular outsider-turned-insider). And the party establishments' not embracing their leftist wings led to Johnson and Trump getting elected, IMO>

Here's one comment:
I have been reading the 850 page leaked Labour party report into antisemitism. Two things emerge so far:
1. the contention that around half the complaints/allegations during the period 2018-19 came from a single serial source who seemed to be acting maliciously to overwhelm the system, many of the allegations being repeated or spurious. This would, if the case, suggest that Corbyn is right in his assertion that the numbers are exaggerated;
2. The utterly toxic atmosphere in Labour HQ among Blairite officials determined to oust the democratically elected LOTO, with the implication that there was delaying/obstructing of the leadership's moves to deal with the issue. This changed in 2018 with change of staff and actions by Formby, as was recognised by the EHRC several times in their report.


Makes sense to me.

T_i_B

(14,742 posts)
6. The Equality and Human Rights Commission has released it's report into Labour's anti-Semitism issues
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:27 AM
Oct 2020

It was pretty damming, and Corbyn's attempts to downplay and evade responsibility for the issues have caused him to be suspended from the party he used to lead a few months ago.

Response to shotten99 (Reply #2)

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
21. No he wouldn't
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:06 PM
Oct 2020

Trump is a racist Republican and Corbyn is radical left. They would hate each other.

Happy Hoosier

(7,366 posts)
11. Corbyn has managed to almost single-handedly cripple the UK labour party.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:56 AM
Oct 2020

And WAY too many "progressives" cheered him on.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
14. It's going to be a long trudge back to relevancy for Labour.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

The ability of voters to join other viable parties is making it even worse.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
16. I've never fully understood the process of selecting (and removing) party leaders
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:56 PM
Oct 2020

It seemed like everyone knew Corbyn was a disaster, except those who somehow kept him in power.

T_i_B

(14,742 posts)
17. Cultism
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:26 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 30, 2020, 10:23 AM - Edit history (2)

The movement surrounding Corbyn was quite cultish and put loyalty to Corbyn ahead of everything else.

It wasn't a small movement either. Corbyn had significant grassroots support that dominated Labour. And Corbyn's supporters were often quite myopic with their focus on internal Labour Party issues above stuff that actually mattered to voters.

There was a leadership contest following the disastrous EU referendum, and Corbyn's lacklustre performance in that campaign, but the organisational network surrounding Corbyn, and the influx of new Labour members personally devoted to Corbyn ensured that the leadership challenge never really had a chance.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
24. Even a Macron type would help
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 09:05 AM
Oct 2020

He is more Center fiscally but clearly on the right side when it comes to issues of social justice .

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