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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:36 PM Oct 2020

Fed. Judge sets hearing Monday on challenge to ballots from drive-thru voting in Texas' largest co

Source: CNN

A federal judge set a hearing for Monday morning to hear a challenge to drive-thru voting in Harris County, Texas, the largest county in the state.

Judge Andrew Hanen, who was appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush, set a hearing for 10:30 a.m., local time on Monday.

A group of Republicans filed a petition Tuesday seeking the halt of drive-thru voting in Harris County, marking another attempt to dismantle drive-thru voting after the Texas Supreme Court ruled last week that it could proceed.

The same group of plaintiffs also filed a new petition with the Texas Supreme Court that is awaiting a decision.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-judge-sets-hearing-monday-on-challenge-to-ballots-from-drive-thru-voting-in-texas-largest-county/ar-BB1azK7o?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=DELLDHP

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Fed. Judge sets hearing Monday on challenge to ballots from drive-thru voting in Texas' largest co (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 OP
Those bastards just fill the courts with bullshit lawsuits hoping that something might stick groundloop Oct 2020 #1
The Feds have not business in this. No civil rights are being violated. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #25
Why is Rebl2 Oct 2020 #2
So what is the remedy for voters? BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #3
Easiest way to handle this, would be... tccturtle Nov 2020 #12
Thank You! BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #16
If you attempt to vote twice in TX (just in case) they might just charge you with voter fraud. LisaL Nov 2020 #19
this is Slate's article on this. Makes me boil! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #4
if slate is correct, we are already f'd....... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #7
The unbelievable gall! I'm just speechless with rage... scarletwoman Oct 2020 #5
So the ratfuckers are trying to ratfuck up to the last hours turbinetree Nov 2020 #6
Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society Karma13612 Nov 2020 #13
I really despise the two fascists' organizations and others that you mentioned in your rant turbinetree Nov 2020 #24
Yessirreee! Karma13612 Nov 2020 #26
I have no problem with drive thru voting as there is no Constitution requirement that voting must cstanleytech Nov 2020 #8
There used to be no privacy in voting csziggy Nov 2020 #15
What Basis Does That Federal Judge Have For Stepping In DallasNE Nov 2020 #9
What Basis Does That Federal Judge Have For Stepping In DallasNE Nov 2020 #10
Drive thru voting was approved by the Texas Secretary of State SunSeeker Nov 2020 #11
Wow, doesn't get any lower than this. Karma13612 Nov 2020 #14
I voted drive through voting and my vote better count..... cannabis_flower Nov 2020 #17
You might want to contact ACLU. LisaL Nov 2020 #18
I just called them. cannabis_flower Nov 2020 #20
Cool. LisaL Nov 2020 #21
Does anyone know cannabis_flower Nov 2020 #22
Doesn't matter what the lower court judges rule. They're all headed to the Supreme Court. ancianita Nov 2020 #23
I don't associate with any Republicans, because this is what they do. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #27

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. So what is the remedy for voters?
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:54 PM
Oct 2020

It’s not enough to decide the broad issue, the voters need to be given a reasonable remedy should the judge decide there is some problem here. These bullshit lawsuits intentionally ignore the voters rights.

tccturtle

(42 posts)
12. Easiest way to handle this, would be...
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 04:46 AM
Nov 2020

for Harris County (Houston) to use the Emergency Notification to notify those impacted should their votes be thrown out so that they came come back and file a provisional ballot. But for me, if I lived in Harris County, and I voted via drive-through, I would just do a provisional ballot anyway. If my first vote is good, the provisional is invalidated, and if I my vote gets kicked out by SCOTUS, then I have one on the books.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
19. If you attempt to vote twice in TX (just in case) they might just charge you with voter fraud.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

I really don't see how this could possibly be corrected if judge ruled to throw those votes out. 125,000 people are not going to all be able to vote on election day. Especially considering the earliest the judge could make a ruling is on Monday, and an election is on Tuesday.

getagrip_already

(14,752 posts)
7. if slate is correct, we are already f'd.......
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:55 AM
Nov 2020

We don't need texas to win. We never counted on it to begin with, but a broad decision backed by scotus could tip multiple states.

Where are all the happy sayers now? This won't be tossed by either the hearing judge or the full appeals court. It will quickly be in scotus hands. And we all know how that will end.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. So the ratfuckers are trying to ratfuck up to the last hours
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:21 AM
Nov 2020

I really want to know who is doing this in the back ground with this dark money................

Come next year when we take back the country we are going to find out who the major ratfuckers really are..............

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
13. Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

And Carrie Severino, both who Sen Sheldon Whitehouse mentioned in his Anti-Barrett confirmation hearing. There are some high rollers in the Republican darkmoney circles who we need to expose. Leo and Carrie (From the Judicial Crisis Network) for starters.

And I also agree with the post above about curing the 100,000 votes that the repukes want tossed.

Those voters thought they were voting legally. If their votes are tossed, the should be given redress to vote again. What if some are now traveling abroad, what if some are not just plain UNABLE to come back into the COVID-infested world of voting in order to have their voices heard because someone changed the rules on them?

This.Is.Wrong.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
24. I really despise the two fascists' organizations and others that you mentioned in your rant
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020

and when we take back both houses of Congress these fascists' organizations need to be brought in and ask some questions, and this includes the three individuals sitting on the bench and others in the lower courts and the one senator that was in the charade down in Florida in 2000. And then bring Roberts in and ask him and others where does it say how's that dark money working for the good of this democracy...................I am so pissed off at this shenanigans..................

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
8. I have no problem with drive thru voting as there is no Constitution requirement that voting must
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 01:27 AM
Nov 2020

take place inside an enclosed booth.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
15. There used to be no privacy in voting
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020
How Americans Have Voted Through History: From Voices to Screens
From shouting candidates' names, to hanging chads to electronic scanning, the nature of voting has a long, sometimes bumpy history in the United States.
Apr 13, 2020
Dave Roos



Voice Voting

For the first 50 years of American elections, most voting wasn’t done in private and voters didn’t even make their choice on a paper ballot. Instead, those with the right to vote (only white men at the time) went to the local courthouse and publicly cast their vote out loud.

Known as “viva voce” or voice voting, this conspicuous form of public voting was the law in most states through the early 19th century and Kentucky kept it up as late as 1891. As voters arrived at the courthouse, a judge would have them swear on a Bible that they were who they said they were and that they hadn’t already voted. Once sworn in, the voter would call out his name to the clerk and announce his chosen candidates in each race.



The First Paper Ballots

The first paper ballots began appearing in the early 19th century, but they weren’t standardized or even printed by government elections officials. In the beginning, paper ballots were nothing more than scraps of paper upon which the voter scrawled his candidates' names and dropped into the ballot box. Newspapers began to print out blank ballots with the titles of each office up for vote which readers could tear out and fill in with their chosen candidates.

Then the political parties got savvy. By the mid-19th century, state Republican or Democratic party officials would distribute pre-printed fliers to voters listing only their party’s candidates for office. They were called Republican and Democratic “tickets” because the small rectangles of paper resembled 19th-century train tickets. Party faithful could legally use the pre-printed ticket as their actual ballot making it easier than ever to vote straight down the party line.

More, including how paper ballots began: https://www.history.com/news/voting-elections-ballots-electronic

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
9. What Basis Does That Federal Judge Have For Stepping In
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:03 AM
Nov 2020

At issue is State law and the State Supreme Court has ruled. That should be the end of it. What Federal law or Constitutional provision does this State law on curbside voting infringe upon? Keep in mind that any ruling against drive thru voting in Texas would impact drive thru voting in all 50 States. Even taking this up carries a political stench. The other thing is who is defending the decision of the Texas Supreme Court? This is highly unusual to say the least.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
10. What Basis Does That Federal Judge Have For Stepping In
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:03 AM
Nov 2020

At issue is State law and the State Supreme Court has ruled. That should be the end of it. What Federal law or Constitutional provision does this State law on curbside voting infringe upon? Keep in mind that any ruling against drive thru voting in Texas would impact drive thru voting in all 50 States. Even taking this up carries a political stench. The other thing is who is defending the decision of the Texas Supreme Court? This is highly unusual to say the least.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
11. Drive thru voting was approved by the Texas Secretary of State
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 04:19 AM
Nov 2020

It didn't become an issue until Republicans saw the huge Dem numbers voting early in Harris County.

Republicans are trying to take away legitimate Democratic votes.


Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
14. Wow, doesn't get any lower than this.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:34 AM
Nov 2020

And since the ruling won’t come until Monday, how are those 100,000 voters going to be able to correct/cure their vote if the decision is unfavorable??

How is that fair if some of the voters happen to have gone away on travel, or simply can’t get to the polls in the limited time left?

Seems like this is completely utterly disenfranchisement at draconian levels.





cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
17. I voted drive through voting and my vote better count.....
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:05 PM
Nov 2020

It should because I would have been eligible for curbside voting anyway. I had an absentee ballot because I’m 62, have asthma, I’m overweight and have bad knees that make it painful to stand in long lines. I turned in my absentee ballot and voted at the drive through because I was concerned about the possibility that my ballot would be thrown out if my signature didn’t match or I messed up some detail on the absentee ballot.

This is crap!!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
18. You might want to contact ACLU.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:13 PM
Nov 2020

I believe they want to talk to people who voted in drive through lanes.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
22. Does anyone know
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:49 PM
Nov 2020

Where I can see a copy of the lawsuit or where the hearing is going to be? I was only able to leave a message with Texas ACLU and wanted to see if I could contact them before tomorrow.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
23. Doesn't matter what the lower court judges rule. They're all headed to the Supreme Court.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 01:11 PM
Nov 2020

Who will then kick it back to legislatures, ostensibly trying not to repeat Bush v Gore 2000.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
27. I don't associate with any Republicans, because this is what they do.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 07:22 PM
Nov 2020

You can't trust them. Never trust a Republican.

What they are doing in Texas should not shock anyone. If a Republican can cheat, they will cheat.

Republicans suck.

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