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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 01:17 PM Nov 2020

FBI Is Investigating 'Trump Train' That Surrounded Biden Campaign Bus in Texas: Report

Source: Law and Crime

ALBERTO LUPERON Nov 1st, 2020, 10:38 am

This weekend may not be the last you hear of Trump supporters who surrounded a Biden campaign bus in Texas on Friday. The FBI is investigating, said a law enforcement source cited by The Texas Tribune. Whether any charges come of this is an open question.

As seen on video, a caravan of supporters of President Donald Trump harassed a Biden campaign bus on Interstate 35. In one clip, a white vehicle, and a black Trump flying a Trump flag made contact. There was no crash. During this incident, the black truck sideswiped the white vehicle, which was in the black truck’s lane, but the moments before were not clearly captured on camera.



. . .

The Biden campaign said trucks appeared to attempt to slow down their bus. A source who spoke to the outlet on condition of anonymity said that cops in New Braunfels responded to calls, and escorted the campaign. This person said the Trump supporters dropped back behind cops. New Braunfels City Manager Robert Camareno said officers did not see traffic violations.


Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/fbi-is-investigating-trump-train-that-surrounded-biden-campaign-bus-in-texas-report/
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FBI Is Investigating 'Trump Train' That Surrounded Biden Campaign Bus in Texas: Report (Original Post) Judi Lynn Nov 2020 OP
Trump continues to foment violence against Americans dlk Nov 2020 #1
Thought it was hilarious to "run 'em out a Texas" LakeArenal Nov 2020 #2
"...said officers did not see traffic violations." Merlot Nov 2020 #3
Damn near makes me ashamed to be a Texan........... HDCowboy Nov 2020 #4
I wish the bus had slammed on its brakes LiberalArkie Nov 2020 #5
that might have caused injuries ON THE BUS MissMillie Nov 2020 #26
I suspect the people who did this are part of some right-wing militia. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #6
I don't know how many busses they have but one is supposed to be Kali Nov 2020 #7
Disaffected white working class. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2020 #8
I know working class with vehicles like that. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #11
Then the only person they should be disaffected by is themselves. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2020 #12
They think they're entitled to what they "want", right now, Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #14
But they will complain about a black kid with a smart phone JI7 Nov 2020 #28
Yep. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #29
Yep, I know the type, too NJCher Nov 2020 #34
The black truck hamsterjill Nov 2020 #9
The guy has been weird for years. Here he was in 2014: Judi Lynn Nov 2020 #15
Seriously!! hamsterjill Nov 2020 #17
+1. One family has made hate and harassment their mission: dalton99a Nov 2020 #20
Psycotic orangecrush Nov 2020 #18
Two different men TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #19
No, same guy. hamsterjill Nov 2020 #21
The don't look the same TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #22
I think it's because they are at least six years apart. hamsterjill Nov 2020 #24
Rt! Cha Nov 2020 #10
They're boiling the noodles as we speak... EarthFirst Nov 2020 #13
ASSHOLES! yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #16
Looks like typical right-wing terrorist rockfordfile Nov 2020 #23
Can't tell Drumpf supporters from Jihadists BlueWavePsych Nov 2020 #25
Tough guy wannabees. warmfeet Nov 2020 #27
Does @TechnipFMC know they have a domestic extremist working for their organization? Gothmog Nov 2020 #30
Trump decries FBI probe of supporters surrounding Biden bus Eugene Nov 2020 #31
Where was the secret service? They do have it, don't they? question everything Nov 2020 #32
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #33

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
2. Thought it was hilarious to "run 'em out a Texas"
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 01:27 PM
Nov 2020

Then just like the boats they swamped, one bash another. Hilarious is “right”. Pun intended.

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
26. that might have caused injuries ON THE BUS
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 07:47 PM
Nov 2020

I get the instinct, but when injuries are involved the driver could lose his job, or his license, or both.

Lonestarblue

(9,994 posts)
6. I suspect the people who did this are part of some right-wing militia.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

It’s time for every state to start cracking down on these people. According to the research I’ve done, every state has laws against private militia and paramilitary groups. All 50 states. So why have even Democratic governors allowed these groups to grow and openly flaunt the law? Here’s what the Supreme Court has ruled and the law in Texas, not that I expect useless Abbott to do anything. Note the “may not parade in public with firearms” part.

“... the Supreme Court decided in 1886—and repeated in 2008—that the Second Amendment “does not prevent the prohibition of private paramilitary organizations.” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 621 (2008) (citing Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)).

Is it legal to act as a private militia in Texas?
No. All 50 states prohibit private, unauthorized militias and military units from engaging in activities reserved for the state militia, including law enforcement activities. Texas’s laws are described below:

Texas Constitution: The Texas Constitution forbids private military units from operating outside state authority, providing that “[t]he military shall at all times be subordinate to the civil authority.” Tex. Const. art. I, § 24.

Texas Statutes
Prohibition on private military units: Texas law makes it illegal for groups of people to organize as private militias without permission from the state. Tex. Gov’t Code § 437.208 provides that “a body of persons other than the regularly organized Texas military forces, the armed forces of the United States, or the active militia of another state may not associate as a military company or organization or parade in public with firearms in a municipality of the state.”

Kali

(55,008 posts)
7. I don't know how many busses they have but one is supposed to be
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:11 PM
Nov 2020

in Douglas AZ today. I wonder how that will go? I thought about driving down there but I am too lazy. If it was closer I have a couple of vehicles that would be fine to play bumper cars with assholes in

not sure they could make it that far though.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
11. I know working class with vehicles like that.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 05:19 PM
Nov 2020

The thing is, that's all they've got, including the big fat car note that goes with it.

Shitty houses, little money, and a big ol' shiny new truck.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
12. Then the only person they should be disaffected by is themselves.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 05:21 PM
Nov 2020

TDS

Trump Derangement Syndrome or Tiny Dick Syndrome

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
14. They think they're entitled to what they "want", right now,
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 05:31 PM
Nov 2020

even though they haven't really earned it by working harder/saving money to achieve it, because "FREEDOM!!!1111"

For all the talk from the right wing about "personal responsibility", many of them around here don't seem to practice it much.

I have everything I want and need on a blue collar salary. Then again, I'm careful with that cash. I don't have $30,000 dollars worth of guns, or an $80,000 truck, or an expensive substance abuse habit.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
28. But they will complain about a black kid with a smart phone
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:09 PM
Nov 2020

even without knowing the financial circumstances of that kid.

NJCher

(35,675 posts)
34. Yep, I know the type, too
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:18 AM
Nov 2020

My brother, a landlord, gets quite aggravated with them because they don’t pay their rent.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
9. The black truck
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 03:20 PM
Nov 2020

The driver of the black truck has been identified and has comments on his Facebook page admitting to ramming the white SUV. The same person drove into a group of protestors at the Alamo in San Antonio a couple of months back.

The organizer of the Trump Train involved in yesterday’s events isn’t even a real Texan. He’s only lived in New Braunfels for three years and resided in Nevada prior to that.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/amp/article/news/local/i-didnt-want-to-hurt-anybody-video-shows-man-with-trump-flag-drive-through-crowd-of-protesters/273-858757ed-4730-48e5-b37a-b0416ee3cc91


https://mycanyonlake.com/amp/trump-train-founder-storms-into-gruene-business-with-14-others-to-protest-mask-laws/



Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
15. The guy has been weird for years. Here he was in 2014:
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

Man allegedly impersonates police officer, confronts actual police detective
By Midland Reporter-Telegram Published 9:57 pm CDT, Monday, October 6, 2014



Eleazar Cisneros, 41, was charged Oct. 5 on a third-degree felony charge of impersonating or exerting the functions of a public servant.Cisneros allegedly confronted a man who he believed had cut him off while driving in the Basin Burger House parking lot. Cisneros told the man he was an undercover police officer, but that man turned out to be an actual Midland police detective and arrested Cisneros, according to Reporter-Telegram records.If convicted, Cisneros faces up to 10 years in prison.

Story:
https://www.mrt.com/news/crime/article/Man-allegedly-impersonates-police-officer-7416473.php

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hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. Seriously!!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

He has a DWI, too, but never seems to go to jail over any of this.

Are you familiar with Steve and Randi Ceh? They were the organizers of yesterday’s event. Pretty strange bunch and rumor has it that they are hoping for a reality tv show!!!! 😆😆😆

dalton99a

(81,510 posts)
20. +1. One family has made hate and harassment their mission:
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 06:06 PM
Nov 2020
https://livingbluetx.com/2020/10/trump-train-new-braunfels/

Trump Train New Braunfels: The Klan Rides Again

One family has made hate and harassment their mission.

Nestled in the Hill Country is the picturesque town of New Braunfels. The old German settlement is home to a popular water park, beautiful hiking areas, and a former KKK Grand Dragon. Recently, the city has also become home to the Ceh family, transplants from Nevada who have positioned themselves as leaders in the battle of “good vs evil” in this growing central Texas city.

The family made their first media appearance in the summer, when local citizens staged a peaceful BLM gathering in the center of town. Steve and Randi Ceh showed up with several armed supporters to “protect” the town. Their friends made statements on social media (see screenshot) to harass local BLM supporters.

The couple insisted they were there in peace, but the guns and social media posts said otherwise.

After the “success” of their BLM protest, the couple decided to organize a “Trump Train” for NB. What started as a small gathering of goons with trucks and flags turned into a full fledged KKK style parade that locked down traffic while people were trying to get home from work. People of color in town changed worked schedules or their route home so they would not be subjected to the Thursday night harassment from the NB Trump Train.

The NB Trump Train has told Hispanics to “go back where you came from”.

They have yelled the N word and nearly run over a Black couple in the Buccees parking lot. The Ceh family’s NB Trump Train allowed a member to drag a BLM flag under their truck, and even proudly made it part of their weekly video.

The racism escalated further when a NB Trump Train member randomly chose four Black men from the community to intimidate. He posted their pictures in the train’s members only Facebook group and urged members to carry and watch for these men.

....

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
24. I think it's because they are at least six years apart.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

The information as to the man’s actions in San Antonio are solid. Well known locally. I can’t vouch for the earlier story. I’ll leave that to the poster who provided the link.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
27. Tough guy wannabees.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 08:59 PM
Nov 2020

This is the height and glory of their lifetime achievements.

So very, very sad.

They will soon be in their cribs with their diapers on.

Eugene

(61,899 posts)
31. Trump decries FBI probe of supporters surrounding Biden bus
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:54 PM
Nov 2020

Source: Associated Press

Trump decries FBI probe of supporters surrounding Biden bus

By MICHAEL BALSAMO
November 1, 2020

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Sunday suggested the FBI should stop investigating an incident in which his supporters were seen surrounding a Biden campaign bus in Texas, which led Democrats to cancel an event there.

The president’s tweet came hours after the FBI confirmed that it was “aware of the incident and investigating.”

On Sunday night, Trump retweeted a screenshot of the FBI statement, adding: “In my opinion, these patriots did nothing wrong. Instead, the FBI & Justice should be investigating the terrorists, anarchists, and agitators of ANTIFA, who run around burning down our Democrat run cities and hurting our people!”

An FBI spokesperson said the bureau had no comment about the president’s tweet.

Trump’s tweet come as tensions remained high between the president and FBI Director Christopher Wray, and as Trump has pressed the Justice Department and FBI to act against his rivals, including Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden himself. The president has also told people around him that he is frustrated with Wray over the FBI director’s public statements on issues like voting fraud, Russian election interference and antifa, and has discussed the possibility of removing Wray if he wins reelection.

-snip-


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-technology-politics-christopher-wray-texas-dde7527f6a513310b09e0093ae24940d

question everything

(47,479 posts)
32. Where was the secret service? They do have it, don't they?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:00 AM
Nov 2020

Can a limousine carrying any of the Trump family members be attacked like that?

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