The Dakotas are 'as bad as it gets anywhere in the world' for COVID-19
Source: USA Today
South Dakota welcomed hundreds of thousands of visitors to a massive motorcycle rally this summer, declined to cancel the state fair and still doesn't require masks. Now its hospitals are filling up and the state's current COVID-19 death rate is among the worst in the world.
The situation is similarly dire in North Dakota, with the state's governor recently moving to allow health care workers who have tested positive for COVID-19 to continue working if they don't show symptoms. It's a controversial policy recommended by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in a crisis situation where hospitals are short-staffed.
And now after months of resisting a statewide mask mandate North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum changed course late Friday, ordering masks to be worn statewide and imposing several business restrictions.
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But Haseltine framed public health actions another way: Not enacting them is like standing in the way of an ambulance the ambulance being proven health measures like mask mandates and social gathering restrictions. Even worse, encouraging large scale events in a pandemic as South Dakota has done is equivalent to manslaughter, Haseltine said.
Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/11/14/covid-19-north-south-dakota-masks-kristi-noem/6237635002/
madaboutharry
(40,219 posts)She is a whole new kind of idiot.
The people of South Dakota should take the soaring Covid-19 numbers as a sign that electing Snow Queens to serve as governor is never a good idea.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Met her twice,and that was twice to many. Sad to say,SIL is her close personal friend. Just another Grifter.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)2024 Republican presidential nomination.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)My guess: Noem.
They will NOT associate this evil politician with the death of their loved ones. The mental connections to make are too complicated.
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)blockhead
(1,081 posts)F you too.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Demonaut
(8,924 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Thanks, Noem and Burgum.
You have to be really horrible at your job to have a virus spreading through states nobody lives in.
usaf-vet
(6,200 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)North Dakota
Updated: 1H Ago 99% In
Donald Trump 235,585 65.1%
Joe Biden 114,901 31.8%
South Dakota
Updated: 1H Ago 99% In
Donald Trump 261,043 61.8%
Joe Biden 150,471 35.6%
usaf-vet
(6,200 posts)..... to do with Covid-19.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)Politicizing (exploiting) the pandemic as a means to increase his chances for re-election.
usaf-vet
(6,200 posts)but smart voters listen to scientists, wore masks, stayed in small distancing groups. Trump voters chose a self-thinning the herd approach. Appears as it worked, thinned Trump right out of the White House.
Gilbert Moore
(218 posts)William A. Haseltine is an American scientist, businessman, author, and philanthropist. He is known for his groundbreaking work on HIV/AIDS and the human genome. Haseltine was a professor at Harvard Medical School where he founded two research departments on cancer and HIV/AIDS.
Warpy
(111,332 posts)with bars and restaurants closing intermittently since March plus a statewide mask law since June. We're in bad shape, too, although not nearly as bad as the Dakotas.
I think what must be driving it here are (in order) schools, churches, and extended families that feel compelled to get together on weekends.
We're back on near lockdown again, but schools are in session in badly hit rural areas, churches are still demanding the faithful put their butts in the pews, and banning extended families from gatherings of more than 6 people is unenforceable.
I knew this was going to be really bad this winter. The only good thing is that it's still spreading more slowly than the average pre-vaccine flu used to.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)North Dakota has had 169.2 cases per 100K. South Dakota has had 154.9 cases per 100K.
They are the two worst places on Earth, outside of San Marino.
The bronze medal goes to Iowa, which has had 135.2 cases per 100K. That puts them behind only San Marino and Andorra.
Wyoming, Wisconsin and Nebraska are also in pretty bad shape.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days
Warpy
(111,332 posts)Half the population here lives in my greater metro area and the numbers here are not great, but they're not scary. Rural counties are doing the worst, as they are in most states.
The Dakotas have actually improved a little over last week.
SpankMe
(2,965 posts)For these "let-the-people-decide-if-they-want-to-die" states, I'd like to see all of their bordering states blockade all routes from those states. If they think a mask mandate is an unacceptable assault on their liberty, I wonder what they'd think of the inability to travel between states?
brush
(53,840 posts)the spread of the virus. Too many horrendous decisions made favoring large crowd events and keeping spreader businesses open.
They will scream at the top of their lungs about freedom from a mask mandate all the while holding out their hands for federal funds.
sandensea
(21,657 posts)Such is life.
sandensea
(21,657 posts)But luckily for them, he's a gentleman and a pro all the way.
mmbrevo
(123 posts)That refuse to follow safety protocols ie, mask mandates etc.
sandensea
(21,657 posts)"Biden is discriminating against red states - the real America!" they'd caterwaul non-stop on Faux News and Hate Radio.
He'll have to go for a federal mandate - although, of course, there's the Extreme Court to consider.
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)Adapt to your environment to survive.
Worried2020
(444 posts).
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I don't feel bad about us restricting border crossings
Hell - "if only" North America had restricted International travel at the first inkling of trouble . . . .
(sigh)
Well, Canada is not as bad off as the USA, but we were, and still are slow to implement the necessary measures t prevent this spread, unlike the Asians who grasped the dangers quickly and took the drastic measures necessary to slow down the spread of this bug
Interactive map and story at link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2020/11/14/covid-19-alert-the-10-riskiest-states-to-visit-right-now-ranked/?sh=31b8971399bd
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)usaf-vet
(6,200 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,033 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)Per Johns-Hopkins, they're testing under 3,000 per day. Illinois has about 14x the people and is averaging 100,000 tests per day.
At least North Dakota is up around 12,000 tests per day, at an even lower population.
ND governor just issued a mask mandate & gathering size limits.
Noem is still pretending this is no big deal. That why they had 1,800 new cases with only 3k tests. 60% positivity.
usaf-vet
(6,200 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)...they're not even trying.
North Dakota tested 12,000 people Friday. 5x the tests, 90% of the population.
NickB79
(19,258 posts)Not a care in the world over infecting and killing other people. It's just like the flu, dontcha know?
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)I'm sure you've seen the posts here about patients in ICU, and coming off ventilators, yelling at the medical pros because they said it was COVID.
There's no fixing that sort of willful ignorance.