Giuliani Is Said to Seek $20,000 a Day Payment for Trump Legal Work

[brooklynite]

Source: New York Times

Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has helped oversee a string of failed court challenges to President Trump’s defeat in the election, asked the president’s campaign to pay him $20,000 a day for his legal work, multiple people briefed on the matter said.

The request stirred opposition from some of Mr. Trump’s aides and advisers, who appear to have ruled out paying that much, and it is unclear how much Mr. Giuliani will ultimately be compensated.

Since Mr. Giuliani took over management of the legal effort, Mr. Trump has suffered a series of defeats in court and lawyers handling some of the remaining cases have dropped out.

A $20,000-a-day rate would have made Mr. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who has been Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer for several years, among the most highly compensated attorneys anywhere.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/us/politics/giuliani-trump-election-pay.html

[frazzled]

1. Da noive of da guy

He ain’t worth peanuts, da goniff.

[marble falls]

19. With these two its hard to figure which ones the schlemiel and which one's the schlimazel.

[LuckyLib]

24. DUzy!

[AZ8theist]

37. Rudy getting bounced check from Doturd....

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Now they're grifting each other.

But Rudy had better get paid up front; Trump is even better at grifting than he is.

[SomedayKindaLove]

3. Maybe when Trump doesn't pay

Rudy can take the case to the Supreme Court!

[smb]

38. Except He'd Take The Case To The Supreme Courtyard By Marriott nt

[EarthFirst]

4. That's $280,000 since Election Day...

Hope he took it on retainer...

[leftieNanner]

5. Is this like the little kid with the lemonade stand

charging $1,000,000 per cup?

Only gotta sell one!

[magicarpet]

6. Rudy says if Brad Parscale can sneak off with wheelbarrels full,...

.... of campaign cash why can't Rudy ?

[no_hypocrisy]

7. I wouldn't let Giuliani represent me for a traffic ticket.

$20,000 per diem seems to leaning towards an Ethics Violation.

OTOH, Trump never pays anyone. Why should we care?

[Zorro]

8. T-Rump probably wants his cut

That's why it's $20k.

[bluestarone]

10. EXACTLY my thoughts

They will cut and run with the money. Surprised it's not MORE really!!

[cyclonefence]

9. Good Luck

[cyclonefence]

11. Good Luck

[Guilded Lilly]

12. Hey Rudy, your shirt is untucked.

[NCjack]

13. If you want good results, you have to pay your attorney good money.

I recommend that the Trump campaign roll the dice bigly and pay Rudy $250K per day.

[sarcasmo]

14. Marrying cousins equals a lot of upkeep.

[marble falls]

15. Dumb bell. He KNOWS Trump stiffs everybody.

[JohnnyRingo]

16. Every time Rudy tweets or appears on TV...

...that's a billable hour. Guilliani doesn't fart without getting paid. You can bet Trump got a bill for Rudy sticking his hand down his pants.

I just hope I don't end up paying for it.

[PatSeg]

17. That truly is the funniest thing I've read all day

But there is also the possibility that Giuliani actually does know all kinds of incriminating crap, as he has implied. Maybe he really can name his price and get away with it.

[Escurumbele]

49. The best point I have read so far...You are most probably right...time to get money for silence

All the things Rudy must know, not only from his "friend" but from the entire family.

[PatSeg]

58. I remember Rudy sort of joking

that he had "insurance", that he knew stuff. Since then, he's pushed his luck over and over again, but Trump doesn't interfere or try to stop him. Yeah, Rudy knows where the bodies are buried.

[Cicada]

18. There are other lawyers working for Rudy, 20k sounds reasonable to me

Rudy 1000 per hour, three others 500 per hour. Others charge more.

[Yeehah]

40. That's not what the article says

Why are you making stuff up?

Who charges more than $20,000 per day?

[Cicada]

51. Some charge 2000 per hour, and there must be several lawyers

Look at this article about Manhattan lawyers making up to $2000 per hour. And there must be several lawyers on the team. https://www.lawyersmutualnc.com/blog/elite-lawyers-billing-up-to-2000-per-hour

[Yeehah]

60. Riiiiight.......

And I'm sure many of those Manhattan lawyers charge 10 billable hours per day, every day. LMAO!

[Cicada]

61. My rival Paul Hoffman averaged 15.5 billable hours per day, 7 days a week

For a 31 day month, one January. We met because he dated two law school students I also dated. I was amazed that as a student I could successfully compete against someone who earned an amazing $31,000 per year, which seemed really rich to me back then. He had a beat up old car with one front bumper with a different color than the rest of the car. Too busy to get a new car I think. He told me that the Beverly Hills police stopped him every single day as he drove home. That really pissed him off so he left business litigation to do public interest law, often suing the police. I have not seen him in almost 40 years but happened to see this week that he has won many awards for public interest law, that he is on the executive board of amnesty international, worked for the ACLU, that he has really got even with those damn profiling cops.

Rudy’s fees didn’t surprise me because later I dated another woman from my law school whose firm would sometimes bill a client a million dollars per week. In mid 1980’s money.

[Yeehah]

62. Cool story, bro

That would be marginally credible if it were for several clients but outright laughable if for one client. Of course, there is the possibility that your "rival" is a crook.

[Cicada]

63. No Paul didn't bill that much.

A law firm in Beverly Hills billed at times a million per week. That was not crooked. The clients agreed to it, because it was worth it. If you increase the odds of a merger happening by five percent that can be worth $50 million. In the case of the law firm I am thinking of their extensive connections with basically all the important figures in the entertainment industry facilitated getting to yes. That firm for instance in one paid Lawrence Tribe one million dollars on behalf of a client to write a brief to be filed with the Supreme Court in support of their client. Tribe was influential with the Supremes so he was worth it. How many hours did Tribe spend on it? One firm in that case is now worth, well to prevent identification, far more than $25 billion. If they had lost they might now be bankrupt. Lawyers are not crooks when they charge such fees. They are just being paid what they are worth.

[Cicada]

53. Walmart asked if they could pay Ted Olsen more than 2000 per hour

The person at Walmart wanted to pay Olsen $200 more per hour than he asked, which was rumored to be 2000 per hour, because they wanted Olsen to wake up thinking about a Walmart case important to Walmart, and not about any other matter he might work on. If you hire Skadden Arps to fight off an unexpected corporate takeover of your firm you will surely be paying them millions per week. https://abovethelaw.com/2016/06/2000-an-hour-lawyers-thats-one-way-to-fund-salary-increases/

And I assume Rudy’s fee includes at least three other lawyers doing research, interviewing witnesses, etc.

[matt819]

20. Seeking to be paid

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


I'm seeking to win the lottery.

I'm seeking to buy a Bentley.

I'm seek to buy a yacht.

That ain't gonna happen either.

[TeamPooka]

21. Pay up Trump donors. Sucker line starts at Rudy.

[Wicked Blue]

22. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Lotsa luck, Rude ol' boy.

Your boss is notorious for stiffing employees.

[keithbvadu2]

23. D'ya think they will mention it in their ever more imaginative solicitations for donations?

D'ya think they will mention it in their ever more imaginative solicitations for donations?

[packman]

25. Worth every penny

Every time he opens his mouth an angel dies-

[barbtries]

26. they could make it 2 million a day

and when it's all over he'll still get just as much: nada

trump doesn't pay his bills. when it comes to losers, he probably sends them a bill.

[volstork]

27. Good luck getting paid,

sukkah!

[Journeyman]

28. Well, if you're going to get stiffed on payment anyway, may as well make it a mint . . .

it'll make a better story as you try to convince teens to help tuck in your shirt.

[DFW]

29. Considering how effective Giuliani has been

I'd say pro-bono is still too expensive

[Vinca]

30. Giuliani should be paying Trump $20,000 a day for keeping him somewhat relevant despite

ultimately being a joke.

[George II]

31. That should just about cover his liquor bill.

[bucolic_frolic]

32. 10 hour day $2,000 an hour, $33.34 per minute

Is Rudy's brain worth it?

[Midnightwalk]

33. He didn't specify US dollars

Zaire dollar exchange rate is 0.00051 so about 10 bucks?

Trump would still stiff him. And Rudy ain’t worth it.

[rustysgurl]

34. He's a grifter, just like his client. n/t

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

35. That'll buy a lot of chianti

And a few new dresses.

[Kid Berwyn]

36. Stuff a lot of hands down a lot of pants with that kind of money.

Won’t do much for scheissnozzle in court, though.

[TNNurse]

39. Who is more deluded?

Trump thinking Rudy is a good attorney (or is he just looking for someone to blame?)

Or Rudy who thinks Trump will pay him???

[SKKY]

41. Damn. $2,500 bucks an hour for crap legal representation?

[Nitram]

42. I love it when two-bit grifters cheat each other.

[colorado_ufo]

43. My husband would have told Rudy,

"Yeah - and people in hell want ice water."

[Gothmog]

44. LOL

trump does not pay his attorneys

[marie999]

45. I don't know anything about lawyers,

but don't they have to have passed the bar in a state that they are bringing something to court?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

46. I'll do it for $17,500 a day.

The same outcome either way.

[Dorn]

47. I was going to say "I'd do it for $17,250", then thought: I WOULDN'T do it for $1,000,000 per day

[llmart]

48. But, but, but...

Trumpie hires the best people! LOL I like how the NYT worded that part:

"Since Mr. Giuliani took over management of the legal effort, Mr. Trump has suffered a series of defeats in court..."


And now he is demanding he get paid from the biggest deadbeat in the country???

This shitshow keeps continuing and I can't wait until it's gone.

[Mr. Evil]

50. Is Rudy trying to out-grift the griftiest grifter of all grifting?

I'm putting my money on Rudy getting stiffed.

[Evolve Dammit]

52. The last gasp of a grifter/ traitor. What a miserable "person."

[Aussie105]

54. Rudi just wants to dip into the Trump slush fund

while the going is good.

After all, there is all those contributions from the True Believers to pay off Trump's campaign debts, some might as well flow into Rudi's pocket.

Rudi knows that once Joe enters the White House, his job prospects drop to zero with zero income. So he has to stock up on dollar bills now!

[sandensea]

55. No honor among thieves

In Spain they have saying: 'He who steals from a thief, gets a 100-year pardon'

Which for Rudy, would be like killing two birds with one stone.

[TygrBright]

56. HAHAHAHAHAH!! RuJu's delusions know no bounds. [Redacted] never pays legal bills. n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

57. I think that's a reasonable sum, assuming a small adjustment.

Say....3 orders of magnitude? I'd say his legal work is worth about $20 a day.

I think he could also have a per diem for vending machine lunches...just to sweeten the deal.

[Captain Zero]

59. Rudy charged that much knowing he would get only 30 cents on the dollar.

Rather than ask for 7k and get 2500, he asked for 20k to get 7k.
Trump University contract ciphering.

[LudwigPastorius]

64. Does it really cost that much to clean the jizz stains off his pants?