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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:09 AM Oct 2012

William Koch, Billionaire Koch Brother, Accused Of Imprisoning Executive

Source: Huffington Post

William Koch, Billionaire Koch Brother, Accused Of Imprisoning Executive
Posted: 10/13/2012 9:39 am EDT


Billionaire William Koch is facing a lawsuit in federal court from a former top-level employee who claims the energy mogul lured him to a secluded property, where he was imprisoned and interrogated for a period of time, according to a report in Courthouse News.


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Martensen alleges that the multiple-day-long incident was set off by an anonymous letter accusing Martensen of mismanaging and stealing from Oxbow Carbon & Minerals International while serving as the company's vice president. That accusation prompted the company's leadership to read Martensen's letters and emails without his knowledge, the suit charges, which led the company to discover that Martensen had deep reservations about the legality of the company's tax avoidance strategies.

Martensen alleges he was told by his superiors that he was transferred overseas to Asia so that the Koch company could avoid paying U.S. taxes on some $200,000,000 in profits.

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Martensen had a flight booked from Aspen, but was not permitted to travel to the airport, he claims, as a local sheriff worked with Koch's employees to "make sure you don't wander off," according to the complaint. He says he was subjected to a several-hour interrogation, fired, held against his will on the property, then forced to fly in a private plane to San Francisco, accompanied by a man he believed to be armed.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/13/william-koch-kirby-martensen_n_1962400.html

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William Koch, Billionaire Koch Brother, Accused Of Imprisoning Executive (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
Mr. Scott: Please don't fly in any small airplanes. nt SDjack Oct 2012 #1
Kidnapping is a crime for us little people tabasco Oct 2012 #2
if you're a billionaire, you can eat live babies on live TV and not get a slap on the wrist yurbud Oct 2012 #24
That's incredibly Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #27
anyone remember a dupont and murder? newspeak Oct 2012 #49
If there was just one kind of law, those who crashed Wall St would be treated like terrorists yurbud Oct 2012 #52
is it just me? but the Koch brothers remind me of... JackN415 Oct 2012 #3
Well they were DEFINITELY the model for the Motch Bros.......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2012 #11
You are right Jack classykaren Oct 2012 #38
I have no idea if any of this is true, but it sure would be nice if the story has legs... silvershadow Oct 2012 #4
Agreed Liberalynn Oct 2012 #7
I'm tempted to believe this really happened simply because it sounds TOO crazy to be true! TheDebbieDee Oct 2012 #18
The Cult of Kock Brothers Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #5
The Cult of Cock... WCGreen Oct 2012 #51
kpete Diclotican Oct 2012 #6
Tragically true. Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #28
We know how the Koch brothers got rich Jack Rabbit Oct 2012 #34
+1,000. Good to see you, Diclotican. freshwest Oct 2012 #41
freshwest Diclotican Oct 2012 #42
If Romney wins this will never see the light of day. glinda Oct 2012 #8
Just imagine. If you had to deal underthematrix Oct 2012 #9
Fargin Bustards sunyasi Oct 2012 #10
This needs to go DU Front page LynneSin Oct 2012 #12
I'm not sure how to respond to this... lilithsrevenge12 Oct 2012 #13
No it is on Huffington classykaren Oct 2012 #39
Send the Fuckers to Jail! trailmonkee Oct 2012 #14
All of the Koch brothers are scum. Frederick R. Koch bestowed New York Arts Council money to... Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #15
that is called kidnaping maindawg Oct 2012 #16
The Koch Brothers: A sovereign State of mind. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #17
will the Romney Campaign be Returning the Koch donations? trailmonkee Oct 2012 #19
Wow. Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #20
? heaven05 Oct 2012 #32
K&R patrice Oct 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #22
How come you only have two posts and they are both links to a KOCH PR piece? DonRedwood Oct 2012 #23
OH please jhawker Oct 2012 #26
I see you can't answer this now Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #30
Those of us who live in Kansas MuseRider Oct 2012 #31
+++++++++++++++++++1 patrice Oct 2012 #35
Some of might find it interesting Confusious Oct 2012 #33
KOCH Tax Dodging???? I wonder if this has anything to do with why Mitt won't show his tax returns. patrice Oct 2012 #25
Living near the Koch compound randr Oct 2012 #29
K&R bobthedrummer Oct 2012 #36
koch roaches - thanks for that - gotta finish that deck today :-) toby jo Oct 2012 #37
Why is this a civil lawsuit? Trillo Oct 2012 #40
sometimes you can expose more with a civil suit, unapatriciated Oct 2012 #46
200,000,000 would be a nice donation to the Debt of America lovuian Oct 2012 #43
This scumbag sued his own mother (and 2 brothers) PA Democrat Oct 2012 #44
he has a bust of Caligula outside his bedroom? Patiod Oct 2012 #48
How appropriate! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #55
These rich SOBs should be cut down to size. QuietLight Oct 2012 #45
Legitimate kidnappings bardahl Oct 2012 #47
and how does this apply to the thread? newspeak Oct 2012 #50
Googled it and will Google again. Keep the story hot. Overseas Oct 2012 #53
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Oct 2012 #54

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. if you're a billionaire, you can eat live babies on live TV and not get a slap on the wrist
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:23 PM
Oct 2012

and most of the media would talk about how the little bastard babies were asking for it.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
49. anyone remember a dupont and murder?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oct 2012

i believe the victim was an olympic wrestler?

just who are our government law officers working for? the plutocrats must be paying them more than we do and the constitution and bill of rights is just a piece of paper-a document that is superseded by any and all who are rich enough.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
52. If there was just one kind of law, those who crashed Wall St would be treated like terrorists
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:24 PM
Oct 2012

since the caused far more damage to us and the world than any ten Osama bin Laden's could do in their wildest wet dream.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
11. Well they were DEFINITELY the model for the Motch Bros..........
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:59 AM
Oct 2012

in that Will Ferrell movie out this Summer. And the title escapes me at this point (was it called "The Campaign"?). They actually threatened legal action because of it.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
18. I'm tempted to believe this really happened simply because it sounds TOO crazy to be true!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:34 AM
Oct 2012

People who do things like this BANK on the story sounding SO absurd that the victim will sound unhinged and no one will believe him/her!

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
6. kpete
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:32 AM
Oct 2012

kpete

You doesn't get rich by playing nice. You get rich by bending all the rules in the book - and then some.. You know you are over the law anyway - rules and laws is for the "little people", not for the "upper-rich class".. Have never been, will never be it...

The names is changed over the last thousand years - but the system is more or less the same..

Hopefully mr Martensen will go forward with this - and maybe let some light into how they got so rich... The Kock brothers that is...

Diclotican

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
28. Tragically true.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:33 PM
Oct 2012

I read that among their other crimes they have been stealing oil from the owners of single wells on Indian Reservations by paying them for less than the amount of oil actually pumped. I think the one thing that can be safely said about all billionaires is that they are sick with greed.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
9. Just imagine. If you had to deal
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:53 AM
Oct 2012

with all these batshit crazy traitors and run the country. There is only one reason anyone would vote for mittnocchio and lyinryan and it ain't their mercurial policies.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. This needs to go DU Front page
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012

We need to show people what kind of sick pups these Koch brothers are!

lilithsrevenge12

(136 posts)
13. I'm not sure how to respond to this...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

I keep going back and forth between laughing and scratching my head. This could be an Onion story.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
15. All of the Koch brothers are scum. Frederick R. Koch bestowed New York Arts Council money to...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:27 AM
Oct 2012

young men he favored.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
16. that is called kidnaping
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:30 AM
Oct 2012

why isnt the FBI involved?
They need to protect this witness. The Kochs are very dangerous criminals.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. ?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:04 PM
Oct 2012

they, the kock brothers, are a different class. Nothing will ever happen to them except a natural death of old fucking age. They are american aristocracy supporting mittytwit and queen anne, the titular rulers of the american aristocracy. Classless society my foot!!!!! democracy? yeah, very small d. Moneyocracy? very large M. We have been trying to regain our democracy that was stolen, every since the obvious presidential shenanigans of 2000- 2004. Looks like some more shenanigans in the making here in 2012! And if it is stolen, won't be a damn thing done about it. sheeple will go about their fearful days looking over their shoulders for the storm troopers.

Response to kpete (Original post)

jhawker

(7 posts)
26. OH please
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:29 PM
Oct 2012

I'm not a shill. I just want to get this word out. The Kochs *never* give out interviews. I used to live in Wichita and I can only remember one interview they gave with the Wichita Eagle, about 12 years ago or so. I have no idea what this interview will say. Even if it's a PR piece, it's going to be worth reading, either way. And do not ever, ever consider me a shill. I may be newly registered just so I could post this but I'm a long-time reader.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
30. I see you can't answer this now
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:43 PM
Oct 2012

but what on earth makes you think anyone here would be waiting with baited breath to hear what either of those two immoral assclowns has to say?

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
31. Those of us who live in Kansas
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:56 PM
Oct 2012

will be interested. You think their influence is bad nationally? Try living here.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
25. KOCH Tax Dodging???? I wonder if this has anything to do with why Mitt won't show his tax returns.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:26 PM
Oct 2012

randr

(12,412 posts)
29. Living near the Koch compound
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:36 PM
Oct 2012

is not a pleasant experience for locals of all political persuasions. He intimidates people with his public land grabs and parading around in his personal military tank. Look up "paonia cherry day parade" for an eye opener.
People working for and supportive of him are locally referred to as "Koch Roaches"

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
36. K&R
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

Madison-based The Center for Media and Democracy has extensive documentation and archives about many RW criminals. Check them out below.
SourceWatch
http://www.sourcewatch.org

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
40. Why is this a civil lawsuit?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012
'a local sheriff worked with Koch's employees to "make sure you don't wander off"'


unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
46. sometimes you can expose more with a civil suit,
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:22 PM
Oct 2012

especially when local authorities do not have enough evidence to go forward.

QuietLight

(6 posts)
45. These rich SOBs should be cut down to size.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:18 PM
Oct 2012

If anyone else was even accused of this they would have been arrested immediately. Obama should send the Justice Dept. to investigate this or this guy will get away with anything. I'm tired of always seeing rich people get off easy. We need an attorney general like Bobby Kennedy. At least he had some guts.

 

bardahl

(18 posts)
47. Legitimate kidnappings
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012

I've read that Obama's AG Eric Folder is too overworked chasing down medical pot smokers in California to deal with low priority stuff like legitimate kidnappings.

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
50. and how does this apply to the thread?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:17 PM
Oct 2012

If you're going to rant about it, at least include ashcroft's DOJ arresting chong for, I believe, one of his employees selling drug paraphernalia, not even drugs. I'm for the legalization of MJ, especially industrialized hemp. but, it's not going to happen when the oil industry, big pharma, and others have a vested interest in their other products. hemp would be a boon to farmers, especially in the south. cloth, paper, oil and even flour are things made from hemp. It once was called "the poor man's plant." but the corporations and the plutocracy don't like it, if they did it would be legal tomorrow. anyway, the "war on drugs", using our money, is making big money (our dime) for certain people. take away the black market, down goes prison count, violence and increase revenue by taxing it.

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