11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday
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Source: The Hill
Eleven Senate Republicans on Saturday announced that they will object to the Electoral College results Wednesday, when Congress convenes in a joint session to formally count the vote.
GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.), and Mike Braun (Ind.), and Senators-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will object to the election results until there is a 10-day audit.
"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states," they said. "Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.
"Accordingly, we intend to vote on Jan. 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed," they added.
Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/11-senate-republicans-say-they-will-object-to-electoral-college-results-wednesday/ar-BB1cqbYn?li=BBnb7Kz
The GOP brain trust.
EarlG
(21,972 posts)There isn't any "dispute." The results have been certified and the electors have voted. There are no "disputed states."
Give it up, sore losers.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,786 posts)taking notes and learning to get ready for next time.
pat_k
(9,313 posts). . . rendering a state's results unlawful, as in Ohio in 2004. (Or rendered incomplete, and therefore unlawful, by black-robed traitors on SCOTUS, as in Florida in 2000.)
Ollie Garkie
(186 posts)Lush Rimjob has claimed that the Librul Democrats are the hysterical sore losers. Hmmmm.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)Zoonart
(11,881 posts)StatGirl
(518 posts)They're just making this stuff up. They can demand an audit all they want, but the law is clear. At best they can demand a 2-hour debate for each of the states that Biden won.
So it's all theater. They're trying to get the cultist vote.
unblock
(52,345 posts)Case closed.
Wtf
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)They will be contesting 5 or 6 states at 2 hours each. Looks like at least a 16 hour day.
bluestarone
(17,062 posts)Show RUMPS base one final show! No biggie, JOE and Kamala show will follow for four years!!!!!!
pat_k
(9,313 posts). . . give the right-wingnut noise machine a "talking point" that will echo for the next four years: "X members of the House and Senate -- an unprecedented number -- objected to the electors from x, y, and z states because those elections were so corrupted by fraud."
They hoped to be able to point to a least one winning lawsuit as their "proof." They hoped to be able to point to at least one state legislature overturning results. Those efforts failed. This is their fallback.
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)Hope everyone in the Senate chamber dons masks and face shield as this will be 12+ hours of hot air and spittle.
I believe this is also a way for the wingnuts to promote more voter suppression legislation at the state level. We need to be on gaurd agains this BIG TIME over the next couple years.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)We need more, and more effective, national efforts to end voter suppression tactics. Perhaps the most insidious of which is the under-allocation of resources in urban and AA areas for the sole purpose of creating long lines. Time is money, and lines are the new poll tax. We may laud the people dedicated enough to wait hours, but the fact is that far too many people just can't afford to.
The right to vote means the right to EASILY cast our ballots and have confidence our votes will be correctly counted.
The enemies of free and fair elections are well organized and powerful. We need a massive counter effort. Effective national media and fundraising. On the ground efforts in legislatures. Campaigns to expand universal mail in voting WITHOUT vote suppressing, and utterly unnecessary requirements like witnesses.
Each of us can help by pushing our leaders to act and pushing the organizations we belong to to make battling voter suppression a top priority! We can write letters to the editor condemning voter registration purges and any other tactics at work in our own states. We can awaken patriotic passion for defending our most basic right.
al bupp
(2,193 posts)The phrase, "long lines are the new poll tax", could even fit on a bumper sticker!
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)pat_k
(9,313 posts)Too many of the tactics have been deemed legal by right-wing packed courts.
Perhaps one of the most effective tactics is allocating resources in "certain areas" to create long lines. This must be addressed. We need a new voting rights act that, among other things, includes a stiff fine for counties that run their election so badly people have to wait for anything more than an hour. A fine bigger than any "savings" from under-allocating resources. Money is the only incentive enemies of democracy understand.
Even well meaning democrats spend more time lauding the demonstration of determination of those waiting than decrying the fact that perhaps 5% or more confronted with an intolerable line can't, or don't consider their vote important enough, to wait. (Particularly when there is overconfidence in a democratic win, as in 2016 and last year)
Thanks to effective voter suppression, despite the apparently decisive popular vote, we won the electoral college by the thinnest of margins (see excerpt below from the Cook Report). It we don't act, we may fail to overcome the suppression next time.
It's up to us to do whatever we can to inspire passion for the basics -- like truly free and fair elections, anti-racist policies, universal health care, remedies for the dehumanizing distribution of our national wealth, and other changes that would build this country into something we could be truly proud of.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)when he didn't get his way. He would whine and cry and hold his breath and mommy and daddy would finally relent and give him whatever he wanted. He grew up thinking that it's everybody else's job to clean up his messes (sometimes quite literally) and everyone has to give him what he wants. The sad thing is that it's always worked for him until just recently.
2naSalit
(86,819 posts)Than whine and throw tantrums. I bet he sabotaged the lives of the rest of the family and attempted hostage holding to get his way.
LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)His brother had a problem, they say, bit I don't get the impression that any of the family tried to help the guy. Trumpy just stabbed him in the back whenever Daddy was around and Daddy decided to put Trumpy in charge of everything.
Talitha
(6,622 posts)Howard Stern told a reporter that Dump said he gets everything he wants by whining and complaining until the other guy gives up.
And I'm sure the Repugs have been taking lessons.
LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)by acting like that, but people like Trumpy think that taking pride in one's character is a weakness. As long as he gets his gold toilets and such, why should he care if he looks like an ass?
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Unlike Stephanie Tubbs Jones (RIP) and Barbara Boxer standing up on Jan 6, 2005 to object to the Ohio electors appointed pursuant to the unlawfully conducted Ohio election to defend our most basic right, these corrupt people are violating their oath by seeking to toss out legitimately appointed electors (albeit, the electors were appointed pursuant to elections plagued by attempts to suppress votes from urban areas and majority AA areas -- efforts that undoubtedly resulted in undercounting Biden votes).
The electoral college may need to be abolished, but the count of the electors under the electoral count act does serve a purpose: the procedures are a backstop against state elections that utterly fail to afford their residents a free and fair presidential election. Of course, it only works if you assume members of the House and Senate act in accordance with their oath. Our constitutional democracy only works when the people we elect to represent us are reasonable and moral. Tragically, that is not a reality.
In the coming years, it is imperative that we mount a coordinated, well-funded effort to stamp out purges of legitimately registered voters and other intolerable barriers to citizens' right to elections that enable them to cast their ballot easily and have confidence their votes will be correctly counted.
samsingh
(17,601 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,815 posts)modrepub
(3,503 posts)Recount audits at the state and county level have been done multiple times in the states they think something is wrong. My state (PA) has paper records for all votes. They just don't like the results.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They are being ridiculous.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)they can just bend over & kiss their political careers " are officially toast " !
yaesu
(8,020 posts)When you service Putin, does russia supply the kneepads or do the American taxpayers?
bucolic_frolic
(43,340 posts)Things under audit never get released, get it?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,598 posts)Talk about hypocrisy. If the tables were turned they'd be yelling, "Follow the Constitution!" They should be called out as "seditious senators."
Septua
(2,262 posts)They can say something today, contradict it tomorrow and not be accountable...they essentially say or do whatever best suits the moment.
They try to mask the sedition by saying "the Trump voters think there were irregularities." What they should have been doing was assuring the Trump voters there were no irregularities.....and the simple truth is, Trump lost.
Evolve Dammit
(16,780 posts)Delphinus
(11,842 posts)want to SCREAM!!!!
mdbl
(4,976 posts)They need to start serving their constituents instead of sucking on trump.
bucolic_frolic
(43,340 posts)and it is seditious, self-serving, crooked, and vile.
Rebl2
(13,570 posts)They could be thrown out of office for doing this.
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,129 posts)Unless the elector's vote was due to bribery, corruption, mistake or fraud. Or the elector did not vote in accordance with applicable constitutional and statutory requirements.
If the votes were regularly given without those impediments they can't object.
If the votes were not lawfully certified they can object. Except the electoral votes of every state has been duly certified as required by state law.
Initech
(100,107 posts)It's just going to prove that Biden won again, these people are fucking nuts.
Harker
(14,049 posts)a thoughtful, deliberate counterweight to the impetuosity of the House.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)mountain grammy
(26,656 posts)who threaten to kill all the traitors? Nah, just blind stupid..
I will never spend a dime in their fucking states!
Goblue50
(13 posts)Just need one more traitor to make a new Dirty Dozen
TeamPooka
(24,260 posts)TryLogic
(1,723 posts)marble falls
(57,319 posts)elleng
(131,171 posts)GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) and Mike Braun (Ind.) and Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.) and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will vote against accepting the election results until there is a 10-day audit.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,256 posts)iluvtennis
(19,880 posts)is nothing but figure head gesture. It's the states certifications that count, not what the congress does.
mahina
(17,709 posts)They should be pelted with shoes everywhere they go for the rest of their days.
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
apnu
(8,759 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Big fucking deal.
Polybius
(15,498 posts)It obviously wont be, but what if it was?
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)appmanga
(583 posts)...this is yet another step to normalizing anti-American democracy acts by a party that is desperate to stay in power by any means necessary. These people have no fear of paying any price for turning their backs on democratic principles. In fact, they expect to be rewarded. Those of us who believe in American democracy have to think long and hard, and then act, on what it's going to take to preserve our system because it hasn't been credibly threatened in such a major way since the Civil War.
LudwigPastorius
(9,185 posts)Will it be the cyanide gas gun, that makes it look like a heart attack?
cstanleytech
(26,322 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,220 posts)signing up for this seditious charade.
Bar5tons
(8 posts)If the republicans are saying that they want the popular vote to elect the president instead of electoral votes, I'm fine with that. lol
If we lose our democracy it will be because of the republicans. The US congress, those are state elections, 99% of congress, we don't get to vote on them. I wish we did. lol
I understand state rights and state representation. it is what it is, lol