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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,256 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:21 PM Jan 2021

11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday

Last edited Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: The Hill

Eleven Senate Republicans on Saturday announced that they will object to the Electoral College results Wednesday, when Congress convenes in a joint session to formally count the vote.

GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.), and Mike Braun (Ind.), and Senators-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.), and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will object to the election results until there is a 10-day audit.

"Congress should immediately appoint an Electoral Commission, with full investigatory and fact-finding authority, to conduct an emergency 10-day audit of the election returns in the disputed states," they said. "Once completed, individual states would evaluate the Commission's findings and could convene a special legislative session to certify a change in their vote, if needed.

"Accordingly, we intend to vote on Jan. 6 to reject the electors from disputed states as not 'regularly given' and 'lawfully certified' (the statutory requisite), unless and until that emergency 10-day audit is completed," they added.




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11 Senate Republicans say they will object to Electoral College results Wednesday (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 OP
These Republicans are ridiculous EarlG Jan 2021 #1
So this is how elections will work now... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #2
We should be ready to react to actual suppression . . . pat_k Jan 2021 #18
and for the past 30 years Ollie Garkie Jan 2021 #3
refuseniks Historic NY Jan 2021 #4
Who will stop this? Zoonart Jan 2021 #5
The House of Representatives StatGirl Jan 2021 #9
The states can't change their minds at this point. unblock Jan 2021 #6
Looks like Jan 6 is gonna be a long day. IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #7
I believe that's their plan. bluestarone Jan 2021 #10
And to. . . pat_k Jan 2021 #15
Just another fundraising stunt to bleed money from the cult. maddogesq Jan 2021 #21
Absolutely! pat_k Jan 2021 #23
This hits the nail on the proverbial electoral head, so to speak al bupp Jan 2021 #33
Why isn't voter suppression a form of treason? TryLogic Jan 2021 #54
Unfortunately, , , pat_k Jan 2021 #61
Not the kind of Carnival Cruz I wanna take... NT mwooldri Jan 2021 #52
I'm sure when he was growing up, Trumpy would keep whining LuvNewcastle Jan 2021 #8
Oh, I bet he did far more nefarious bullshit... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #11
He definitely sabotaged his brother. LuvNewcastle Jan 2021 #13
That's exactly what he told Howard Stern. Talitha Jan 2021 #14
Most people wouldn't want to debase themselves LuvNewcastle Jan 2021 #16
Yeah. Screw the oath. pat_k Jan 2021 #12
let the GOP traitors expose themselves for the world to see and laugh at us samsingh Jan 2021 #17
"Ye shall know them by their works" Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #24
How Many "Audit" Do They Need? modrepub Jan 2021 #19
Should audit red states too then treestar Jan 2021 #20
republican brain dead !!! monkeyman1 Jan 2021 #22
I sent a tweet to a Repuke Rep who is doing the same asking one simple question yaesu Jan 2021 #25
Just like Trump's taxes bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #26
"Let's just make up bullshit rules until we get our way." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #27
That's the problem... Septua Jan 2021 #45
Legitimate basis for this? NONE. Gavel their asses down and remove if necessary. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #28
I seriously Delphinus Jan 2021 #29
Those 11 Repugs are morons on parade mdbl Jan 2021 #30
There is no 10-day audit in the Constitution, this is against their oath of office bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #31
Wish Rebl2 Jan 2021 #41
What should happen is they should be arrested for sedition which is what this is. cstanleytech Jan 2021 #50
The votes were regularly given as required. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #32
WTF is an audit going to do? Initech Jan 2021 #34
It wasn't long ago that the Senate was viewed as Harker Jan 2021 #35
I that was before Moscow Mitch TryLogic Jan 2021 #55
Afraid of the proud boys mountain grammy Jan 2021 #36
One more traitor... Goblue50 Jan 2021 #37
Fascist Role Call! TeamPooka Jan 2021 #38
Fascist Role Call. I agree. TryLogic Jan 2021 #56
Fuck 'em. marble falls Jan 2021 #39
ever to be known as . . . elleng Jan 2021 #40
And we should "reach across the aisle and work with them" because....? n/t Yavin4 Jan 2021 #42
We should reach across the aisle and slap their collective faces Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #48
Doesn't mean shit. A11 50 states certified the EC votes on December 9th. The congress' process iluvtennis Jan 2021 #43
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! mahina Jan 2021 #44
Republicans: 'Come on people! These goal posts won't move themselves!' apnu Jan 2021 #46
So the vote will be 89 to 11? BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #47
What if it was 51-49? Polybius Jan 2021 #51
Then they would be reporting more than 11 traitors. nt. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #57
Make no mistake... appmanga Jan 2021 #49
I wonder what Putin will do with Trump now that his work is done. LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #53
Fine lets go with the popular vote then!!! Oh, wait I forgot Trump lost that both in 2016 and 2020. cstanleytech Jan 2021 #58
Interesting that only Tennessee has both senators TexasBushwhacker Jan 2021 #59
electoral college Bar5tons Jan 2021 #60

EarlG

(21,972 posts)
1. These Republicans are ridiculous
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:25 PM
Jan 2021

There isn't any "dispute." The results have been certified and the electors have voted. There are no "disputed states."

Give it up, sore losers.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
18. We should be ready to react to actual suppression . . .
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

. . . rendering a state's results unlawful, as in Ohio in 2004. (Or rendered incomplete, and therefore unlawful, by black-robed traitors on SCOTUS, as in Florida in 2000.)

StatGirl

(518 posts)
9. The House of Representatives
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:41 PM
Jan 2021

They're just making this stuff up. They can demand an audit all they want, but the law is clear. At best they can demand a 2-hour debate for each of the states that Biden won.

So it's all theater. They're trying to get the cultist vote.

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
7. Looks like Jan 6 is gonna be a long day.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jan 2021

They will be contesting 5 or 6 states at 2 hours each. Looks like at least a 16 hour day.

bluestarone

(17,062 posts)
10. I believe that's their plan.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:47 PM
Jan 2021

Show RUMPS base one final show! No biggie, JOE and Kamala show will follow for four years!!!!!!

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
15. And to. . .
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jan 2021

. . . give the right-wingnut noise machine a "talking point" that will echo for the next four years: "X members of the House and Senate -- an unprecedented number -- objected to the electors from x, y, and z states because those elections were so corrupted by fraud."

They hoped to be able to point to a least one winning lawsuit as their "proof." They hoped to be able to point to at least one state legislature overturning results. Those efforts failed. This is their fallback.

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
21. Just another fundraising stunt to bleed money from the cult.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jan 2021

Hope everyone in the Senate chamber dons masks and face shield as this will be 12+ hours of hot air and spittle.

I believe this is also a way for the wingnuts to promote more voter suppression legislation at the state level. We need to be on gaurd agains this BIG TIME over the next couple years.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
23. Absolutely!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jan 2021

We need more, and more effective, national efforts to end voter suppression tactics. Perhaps the most insidious of which is the under-allocation of resources in urban and AA areas for the sole purpose of creating long lines. Time is money, and lines are the new poll tax. We may laud the people dedicated enough to wait hours, but the fact is that far too many people just can't afford to.

The right to vote means the right to EASILY cast our ballots and have confidence our votes will be correctly counted.

The enemies of free and fair elections are well organized and powerful. We need a massive counter effort. Effective national media and fundraising. On the ground efforts in legislatures. Campaigns to expand universal mail in voting WITHOUT vote suppressing, and utterly unnecessary requirements like witnesses.

Each of us can help by pushing our leaders to act and pushing the organizations we belong to to make battling voter suppression a top priority! We can write letters to the editor condemning voter registration purges and any other tactics at work in our own states. We can awaken patriotic passion for defending our most basic right.

al bupp

(2,193 posts)
33. This hits the nail on the proverbial electoral head, so to speak
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:56 PM
Jan 2021

The phrase, "long lines are the new poll tax", could even fit on a bumper sticker!

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
61. Unfortunately, , ,
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 05:08 PM
Jan 2021

Too many of the tactics have been deemed legal by right-wing packed courts.

Perhaps one of the most effective tactics is allocating resources in "certain areas" to create long lines. This must be addressed. We need a new voting rights act that, among other things, includes a stiff fine for counties that run their election so badly people have to wait for anything more than an hour. A fine bigger than any "savings" from under-allocating resources. Money is the only incentive enemies of democracy understand.

Even well meaning democrats spend more time lauding the demonstration of determination of those waiting than decrying the fact that perhaps 5% or more confronted with an intolerable line can't, or don't consider their vote important enough, to wait. (Particularly when there is overconfidence in a democratic win, as in 2016 and last year)

Thanks to effective voter suppression, despite the apparently decisive popular vote, we won the electoral college by the thinnest of margins (see excerpt below from the Cook Report). It we don't act, we may fail to overcome the suppression next time.

Joe Biden won the popular vote by 7.1 million (4.5 percentage points), but Donald Trump came within 42,918 votes (Biden's combined margin of victory in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin) of a 269-269 tie in the Electoral College, which would likely have been resolved in Trump's favor in the House. Trump came within 65,009 votes of winning 270 Electoral votes outright, when including Biden's win in Nebraska's 2nd District.


It's up to us to do whatever we can to inspire passion for the basics -- like truly free and fair elections, anti-racist policies, universal health care, remedies for the dehumanizing distribution of our national wealth, and other changes that would build this country into something we could be truly proud of.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
8. I'm sure when he was growing up, Trumpy would keep whining
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 02:40 PM
Jan 2021

when he didn't get his way. He would whine and cry and hold his breath and mommy and daddy would finally relent and give him whatever he wanted. He grew up thinking that it's everybody else's job to clean up his messes (sometimes quite literally) and everyone has to give him what he wants. The sad thing is that it's always worked for him until just recently.

2naSalit

(86,819 posts)
11. Oh, I bet he did far more nefarious bullshit...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:04 PM
Jan 2021

Than whine and throw tantrums. I bet he sabotaged the lives of the rest of the family and attempted hostage holding to get his way.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
13. He definitely sabotaged his brother.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jan 2021

His brother had a problem, they say, bit I don't get the impression that any of the family tried to help the guy. Trumpy just stabbed him in the back whenever Daddy was around and Daddy decided to put Trumpy in charge of everything.

Talitha

(6,622 posts)
14. That's exactly what he told Howard Stern.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:20 PM
Jan 2021

Howard Stern told a reporter that Dump said he gets everything he wants by whining and complaining until the other guy gives up.

And I'm sure the Repugs have been taking lessons.

LuvNewcastle

(16,858 posts)
16. Most people wouldn't want to debase themselves
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jan 2021

by acting like that, but people like Trumpy think that taking pride in one's character is a weakness. As long as he gets his gold toilets and such, why should he care if he looks like an ass?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
12. Yeah. Screw the oath.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Unlike Stephanie Tubbs Jones (RIP) and Barbara Boxer standing up on Jan 6, 2005 to object to the Ohio electors appointed pursuant to the unlawfully conducted Ohio election to defend our most basic right, these corrupt people are violating their oath by seeking to toss out legitimately appointed electors (albeit, the electors were appointed pursuant to elections plagued by attempts to suppress votes from urban areas and majority AA areas -- efforts that undoubtedly resulted in undercounting Biden votes).

The electoral college may need to be abolished, but the count of the electors under the electoral count act does serve a purpose: the procedures are a backstop against state elections that utterly fail to afford their residents a free and fair presidential election. Of course, it only works if you assume members of the House and Senate act in accordance with their oath. Our constitutional democracy only works when the people we elect to represent us are reasonable and moral. Tragically, that is not a reality.

In the coming years, it is imperative that we mount a coordinated, well-funded effort to stamp out purges of legitimately registered voters and other intolerable barriers to citizens' right to elections that enable them to cast their ballot easily and have confidence their votes will be correctly counted.

modrepub

(3,503 posts)
19. How Many "Audit" Do They Need?
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

Recount audits at the state and county level have been done multiple times in the states they think something is wrong. My state (PA) has paper records for all votes. They just don't like the results.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
25. I sent a tweet to a Repuke Rep who is doing the same asking one simple question
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:03 PM
Jan 2021

When you service Putin, does russia supply the kneepads or do the American taxpayers?

27. "Let's just make up bullshit rules until we get our way."
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jan 2021

Talk about hypocrisy. If the tables were turned they'd be yelling, "Follow the Constitution!" They should be called out as "seditious senators."

Septua

(2,262 posts)
45. That's the problem...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:51 PM
Jan 2021

They can say something today, contradict it tomorrow and not be accountable...they essentially say or do whatever best suits the moment.

They try to mask the sedition by saying "the Trump voters think there were irregularities." What they should have been doing was assuring the Trump voters there were no irregularities.....and the simple truth is, Trump lost.

mdbl

(4,976 posts)
30. Those 11 Repugs are morons on parade
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:38 PM
Jan 2021

They need to start serving their constituents instead of sucking on trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,340 posts)
31. There is no 10-day audit in the Constitution, this is against their oath of office
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

and it is seditious, self-serving, crooked, and vile.

LiberalFighter

(51,129 posts)
32. The votes were regularly given as required.
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 04:49 PM
Jan 2021

Unless the elector's vote was due to bribery, corruption, mistake or fraud. Or the elector did not vote in accordance with applicable constitutional and statutory requirements.

If the votes were regularly given without those impediments they can't object.

If the votes were not lawfully certified they can object. Except the electoral votes of every state has been duly certified as required by state law.

Harker

(14,049 posts)
35. It wasn't long ago that the Senate was viewed as
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 05:42 PM
Jan 2021

a thoughtful, deliberate counterweight to the impetuosity of the House.

mountain grammy

(26,656 posts)
36. Afraid of the proud boys
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 05:44 PM
Jan 2021

who threaten to kill all the traitors? Nah, just blind stupid..

I will never spend a dime in their fucking states!

elleng

(131,171 posts)
40. ever to be known as . . .
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:09 PM
Jan 2021

GOP Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Ron Johnson (Wis.), James Lankford (Okla.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Kennedy (La.), Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) and Mike Braun (Ind.) and Sens.-elect Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.), Roger Marshall (Kan.), Bill Hagerty (Tenn.) and Tommy Tuberville (Ala.) said in a joint statement that they will vote against accepting the election results until there is a 10-day audit.

iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
43. Doesn't mean shit. A11 50 states certified the EC votes on December 9th. The congress' process
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:42 PM
Jan 2021

is nothing but figure head gesture. It's the states certifications that count, not what the congress does.

mahina

(17,709 posts)
44. Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 07:43 PM
Jan 2021

They should be pelted with shoes everywhere they go for the rest of their days.

Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame!

appmanga

(583 posts)
49. Make no mistake...
Sat Jan 2, 2021, 08:23 PM
Jan 2021

...this is yet another step to normalizing anti-American democracy acts by a party that is desperate to stay in power by any means necessary. These people have no fear of paying any price for turning their backs on democratic principles. In fact, they expect to be rewarded. Those of us who believe in American democracy have to think long and hard, and then act, on what it's going to take to preserve our system because it hasn't been credibly threatened in such a major way since the Civil War.

LudwigPastorius

(9,185 posts)
53. I wonder what Putin will do with Trump now that his work is done.
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 12:53 AM
Jan 2021

Will it be the cyanide gas gun, that makes it look like a heart attack?



Bar5tons

(8 posts)
60. electoral college
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jan 2021

If the republicans are saying that they want the popular vote to elect the president instead of electoral votes, I'm fine with that. lol
If we lose our democracy it will be because of the republicans. The US congress, those are state elections, 99% of congress, we don't get to vote on them. I wish we did. lol
I understand state rights and state representation. it is what it is, lol

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