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brooklynite

(94,738 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:24 AM Jan 2021

Democrat Jon Ossoff Claims Victory Over David Perdue In Georgia Runoff

Source: NPR

Democrat Jon Ossoff — who as of 9 a.m. ET Wednesday leads Republican David Perdue by about 16,000 votes in the Georgia runoff that could give Democrats control of the U.S. Senate — claimed victory Wednesday. The Associated Press, which NPR relies on for its results, has not yet called the contest.

"It is with humility that I thank the people of Georgia for electing me to serve you in the United States Senate," Ossoff said in remarks Wednesday morning.

Perdue, whose Senate term expired earlier this week, has not conceded the race.

"Everybody who cast your ballot, everybody who put your faith and confidence in our democracy's capacity to deliver the representation that we deserve — whether you were for me, or against me — I'll be for you in the U.S. Senate," Ossoff said. "I will serve all the people of the state."




Read more: https://www.npr.org/2021/01/06/952417689/democrat-jon-ossoff-claims-victory-over-david-perdue-in-georgia-runoff
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Democrat Jon Ossoff Claims Victory Over David Perdue In Georgia Runoff (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2021 OP
When will he be declared the winner??? efhmc Jan 2021 #1
Remaining votes are expected to drop this afternoon. brooklynite Jan 2021 #6
Congratulations, Senator Osoff! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #2
DUers, disndat Jan 2021 #55
Posts like yours make me really reluctant to post a lot of the time 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #56
Woot! Woot! UpInArms Jan 2021 #3
I hope he isn't jumping the gun. Aren't there still a lot of mail-in ballots yet to go, plus the Frustratedlady Jan 2021 #4
There are mail ballots, but even in R counties, these DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #5
Agree. It's too early. zentrum Jan 2021 #10
The pollsters say disndat Jan 2021 #11
Is that because of the number of votes still out? Because there are not enough efhmc Jan 2021 #14
NYTimes forecast based on where estimated remaining votes are. pat_k Jan 2021 #40
I heard it on MSNBC this morning disndat Jan 2021 #16
yup, but that won't stop Purdue from challenging Ossoff's win instead of conceding gracefully. onetexan Jan 2021 #29
If win is by less than 0.5, it's his right to request a recount. pat_k Jan 2021 #41
If my memory is correct, the number of added military ballots arriving Wednesday through Friday karynnj Jan 2021 #18
Thanks. I think you are right on the 17K number, but I was thinking of the recount number, as well. Frustratedlady Jan 2021 #20
Georgia doesn't have an automatic recount, so there's no "recount number." scarletwoman Jan 2021 #32
Before the Friday additions, he may well be up by 40,000 karynnj Jan 2021 #39
Hopefully, he has it on some kind of official authority rocktivity Jan 2021 #33
Congratulations!! myohmy2 Jan 2021 #7
Well Jon must be pretty darn Cha Jan 2021 #8
Yay!! So encouraged after last night! AllyCat Jan 2021 #9
I do suspect there might be a recount but.. ananda Jan 2021 #12
He's got to expand his lead to at least 0.5% or the recount is automatic. RVN VET71 Jan 2021 #17
Yeah, it's at .4 right now. ananda Jan 2021 #19
Can Purdue pay for a recount anyway if the final is outside the .5%? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #21
He can always ask Politicub Jan 2021 #25
I know. But you know Mitch will tie it up if he can... Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2021 #27
They will probably try. I don't know the similarities and Politicub Jan 2021 #28
No, there is no automatic recount in Georgia - see below: scarletwoman Jan 2021 #34
Nate Silver predicted 15,000 based on his models last night on ABC ffr Jan 2021 #13
Looking at the NYT map (behind paywall) that 15,000 would likely now be higher karynnj Jan 2021 #36
This morning Kornacki estimated that Ossoff could win by DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #46
He's got it oro Jan 2021 #15
Works for me! BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #22
Oh look twodogsbarking Jan 2021 #23
17,025 more votes despite all the voter suppression that went on, pretty impressive! yaesu Jan 2021 #26
Congrats to Sen. Jon Ossoff ! yaesu Jan 2021 #24
He has every right to declare victory buts going to be a while before he is the winner beachbumbob Jan 2021 #30
An excellent statement by Jon. Sogo Jan 2021 #31
So far counting today has increased Ossoff's lead by about 1,000 votes to about 17,000. George II Jan 2021 #35
17,567 vote lead for Democrat Jon Ossoff Tetrachloride Jan 2021 #37
From the top GA election official's lips to Biden's ears rocktivity Jan 2021 #38
Thank you Great Spirit!! peacebuzzard Jan 2021 #42
Sweet! Alacritous Crier Jan 2021 #43
Anybody out there with art skills? Woodycall Jan 2021 #44
A great day for him for Georgia, for the United States, and for the world. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #45
Indeed Yeehah Jan 2021 #47
Oh, hell yeah! LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #48
Woohoo! BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #49
Good to have two Democratic senators from my state, GA. Denvermosaic Jan 2021 #50
This fellow Georgian could not agree more. It's a happy day. crickets Jan 2021 #51
hi Denvermosaic Jan 2021 #52
Wonderful, just wonderful!! Liberal and Proud Jan 2021 #53
mitch has no power superheadshot19997 Jan 2021 #54

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,048 posts)
56. Posts like yours make me really reluctant to post a lot of the time
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jan 2021

I never know when I'm going to get slapped down, even for posting something positive/innocuous. So I misspelled a name. What a crime to be held up for ridicule for.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
4. I hope he isn't jumping the gun. Aren't there still a lot of mail-in ballots yet to go, plus the
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

military on Friday?

I hope he knows what he's talking about and not just excited it might happen.

efhmc

(14,732 posts)
14. Is that because of the number of votes still out? Because there are not enough
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jan 2021

votes left for Perdue to overcome Ossoff's lead?

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
40. NYTimes forecast based on where estimated remaining votes are.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

NYTimes range of estimated win percentage is Ossoff +1.9 to Ossoff

disndat

(1,887 posts)
16. I heard it on MSNBC this morning
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

(not Kondracki) the pollster said the uncounted votes in Democratic-leaning districts favor Osoff.

onetexan

(13,061 posts)
29. yup, but that won't stop Purdue from challenging Ossoff's win instead of conceding gracefully.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:48 PM
Jan 2021

Another bad behaving GOP, no surprise.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
41. If win is by less than 0.5, it's his right to request a recount.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jan 2021

We need to take care denigrating any candidate for requesting a recount. With voter suppression as it is, and continued discriminatory practices in determining legitimacy of signatures and making other judgements, if Ossoff lost by less than 0.5, I would want him to request a recount/audit.

There is no automatic recount law in Georgia, but if the win is by less than 0.5, the losing candidate has the right to request a recount.

If, the win is by more than 0.5, or if Purdue's loss were confirmed by a recount, and he followed DT's lead and still refused to concede, then he deserves derision.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
18. If my memory is correct, the number of added military ballots arriving Wednesday through Friday
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jan 2021

in November was very small. Also, I think it was overseas and military. I know many places were speaking of as high as 17,000, but I think in November it was closer to 1000. Not to mention, it was not overwhelmingly Republican - I think it actually broke for Biden. AT least several years ago, having a passport was extremely more likely for Democrats than Republicans. Not to mention, ex pats would have seen these 4 years - many with horror.

(This is from memory because I can't find a link that stated - after it happened - exactly how big either of those two pieces that are counted if postmarked before yesterday and arrived by Friday as GA law specifies. Note that when Gabriel Stirling spoke a few days ago refuting the Trump charges made in the phone call, he spoke of the military ballots that were returned by email as one reason for the "pristine ballots". (Poll workers had to print the emails on properly sized ballots before they were counted.)

I would assume that the only ballots that will be added on Friday are the mailed in ballots that came in during those 3 days - very likely a small percent of total overseas/military votes.

As to jumping the gun, the NYT needle - which I think is behind a paywall - has its estimate of Ossoff's final margin at 1.1. In the details, especially the map that lets you see vote remaining by location and type of vote (mail in, early, day of) AND their estimate of how that remaining vote will divide between Ossof and Perdue.

Perdue himself has said he will win. I suspect that his backed on nothing other than Trump like conspiracy theories. Given that Ossof is actually ahead and likely to maybe double his margin.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
20. Thanks. I think you are right on the 17K number, but I was thinking of the recount number, as well.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:13 PM
Jan 2021

Last time I looked, his lead wasn't big enough to overcome the 17K (if it leaned Repuke) and not get caught up in the recount number.

Of course, I want him to win, just not jump the gun. I hope he had good counsel on his decision to claim a win.

It will be so good to get rid of this queasy feeling in my stomach. Seeing McConnell wither and fall should be enough to do it.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
32. Georgia doesn't have an automatic recount, so there's no "recount number."
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jan 2021

Recounts can be requested either by the losing candidate or by an election official, but it's not mandatory.

I looked this up late last night, but I didn't keep the link. It was a State of Georgia web page, however, so I know it's accurate.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
39. Before the Friday additions, he may well be up by 40,000
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:27 PM
Jan 2021

This number was computed looking at the NYT map that showed what was outstanding by county and type of vote. They give their estimate of the split. Throughout the night as votes came in, they had a chart that showed their net percent vs the actual, and they were very close even in the beginning. (I don't know if they dynamically changed their expectation as voting progressed, but it is likely not far off.)

In addition, there are provisional ballots - but they lean Democratic. So, EVEN if there really were 17000 military ballots and they ALL went to Perdue (2 very unlikely assumptions) -- he would still be over by more than a half of one percent. Not to mention, even if there were a recount, it is not likely to make a difference.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
33. Hopefully, he has it on some kind of official authority
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Mon Feb 19, 2024, 01:04 PM - Edit history (2)

Biden looked a little brazen by posting his transition team Web page less than 24 hours after the polls closed with GA, NC, and PA in particular still unaccounted for. I think he did so having been reliably assured that WI, NV and AZ -- which got him to 270 electoral votes -- were in the bag.

ON EDIT: Official authority accomplished, LOL





rocktivity

AllyCat

(16,226 posts)
9. Yay!! So encouraged after last night!
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jan 2021

We must continue to work with these new, energized, and SMART voters and organizers if we are going to keep our democracy intact. Everybody in, nobody out. That is the way to move our country forward!

Congratulations to these 2 fine candidates, to Sen. McConnell on his new title as Sen Minority Leader, and to the FANTASTIC organizers on the ground, led by the goddess Stacey Abrams to get this done for the U.S.A.!!

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
17. He's got to expand his lead to at least 0.5% or the recount is automatic.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jan 2021

But recent history is in favor of him prevailing. Georgia’s efforts to suppress the vote have not -- to my knowledge -- extended to cheating on the vote count. The GOP there has been content with removing people from the registers and passing obfuscatory laws lacing obstacles in the way of African American voters.

So if it comes down to a recount, I trust the results and only hope they confirm Ossoff -- which they will!

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
21. Can Purdue pay for a recount anyway if the final is outside the .5%?
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:21 PM
Jan 2021

If so, I wouldn’t put it past him just so McConnell can tie up the seat longer.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,343 posts)
27. I know. But you know Mitch will tie it up if he can...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:44 PM
Jan 2021

“While the legal process plays out”

They kept Al Franken out for 6 months

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
34. No, there is no automatic recount in Georgia - see below:
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jan 2021
https://georgia.gov/election-recount-rules-georgia

Election Recount Rules in Georgia

State law does not require an automatic recount of votes. However, based on Georgia H.B. 316 (2019), a candidate can request a recount if the margin is less than or equal to 0.5%. That request has to be made within two business days of the results being certified.

Other common situations where a recount may be requested include:

If there is a suspected error or discrepancy in the returns, an election official can ask for a recount.

If a candidate for federal or state office petitions the Secretary of State regarding a suspected error or discrepancy, the Secretary of State can ask for a recount.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
13. Nate Silver predicted 15,000 based on his models last night on ABC
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jan 2021

when Perdue had a 1,888 advantage, citing the more accurate polling data coming from Georgia.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
36. Looking at the NYT map (behind paywall) that 15,000 would likely now be higher
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

The areas left are almost all in very Democratic areas. The NYT shows their anticipated split between Ossoff and Perdue by county. At this point looking at them and computing the net, Ossoff might end up over 40,000 ahead.

Also, Gabriel Stirling in his press conference this morning said he does not think Ossoff will be under the mandatory recount level. (I don't know the GA rules for Perdue to still ask for a recount. Not to mention, as was said repeatedly on Biden's victories, recounts do not change results by tens of thousands.)

 

oro

(88 posts)
15. He's got it
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:58 AM
Jan 2021

The mail in ballots should break Democratic by a large margin. Now Biden will be able to break Mitch the Turtle's stranglehold on policy.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
26. 17,025 more votes despite all the voter suppression that went on, pretty impressive!
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jan 2021

I guess Perdue can go back to making a living committing securities fraud.

Sogo

(4,993 posts)
31. An excellent statement by Jon.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:50 PM
Jan 2021

Fingers crossed that nothing goes against what looks inevitable at this point.


(My donations to these candidates paid off!)


Tetrachloride

(7,871 posts)
37. 17,567 vote lead for Democrat Jon Ossoff
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jan 2021
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/georgia-senate-election-results/


98% of Expected Vote Reporting
Candidate Party Total Votes Pct.
J. Ossoff Dem. 2,213,099 50%
D. Perdue* Rep. 2,195,532 50%

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
42. Thank you Great Spirit!!
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:47 PM
Jan 2021

been so busy this morning I missed this great news.

Hooray indeed, to add to our total flush!

Woodycall

(259 posts)
44. Anybody out there with art skills?
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jan 2021

I need to see a cartoon of McConnell as a turtle set on the top of a wooden fence post...

BobTheSubgenius

(11,567 posts)
45. A great day for him for Georgia, for the United States, and for the world.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jan 2021

Everything can start improving now.

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