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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,136 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 09:47 PM Jan 2021

FBI focuses on whether some Capitol rioters intended to harm lawmakers or take hostages

Source: Washington Post

FBI agents are trying to determine whether some who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday intended to do more than cause havoc and disrupt the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, and are sifting through evidence to see whether anyone wanted to kill or capture lawmakers or their staffers, according to people familiar with the investigation.

Dozens have been arrested, and Friday, officials announced charges against an Arkansas man photographed in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office chair with a foot on her desk. But investigators also are working to determine the motivations and larger goals, if any, of those who had weapons or other gear suggesting they planned to do physical harm.

Some rioters, for instance, were photographed carrying zip ties, a plastic version of handcuffs, and one man was arrested allegedly carrying a pistol on the Capitol grounds.

“We’re not looking at this as a grand conspiracy, but we are interested in learning what people would do with things like zip ties,” said a law enforcement official, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-focuses-on-whether-some-capitol-rioters-intended-to-harm-lawmakers-or-take-hostages/ar-BB1cAVhD?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=DELLDHP

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FBI focuses on whether some Capitol rioters intended to harm lawmakers or take hostages (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 OP
"We're not looking at this as a grand conspiracy." Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #1
THE FUCK?!?!?!?! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2021 #2
I saw the photos pfitz59 Jan 2021 #3
I think shouts of "Hang Mike Pence" LunaSea Jan 2021 #4
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK THEY WERE DOING?!?!? durablend Jan 2021 #5
I think one of the two guys seen with EZ-cuffs was ex-military pecosbob Jan 2021 #6
Apparently a retired Air Force Lt. Colonel groundloop Jan 2021 #23
Like this one? yaesu Jan 2021 #7
Person of interest - Zip tie guy with holstered hand gun BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #8
Yup- that guy's a spook NBachers Jan 2021 #21
Gallows w noose, Plasticuffs, mace, military helmets, body armor, retweets about arresting Pence Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #9
FBI MOST WANTED BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #10
The question is, did professional agents hostile to America piggyback on this amateur incursion Nitram Jan 2021 #11
Oh i have no doubt. The con could not have come up w this idea himself onetexan Jan 2021 #24
Reminds me of Nixon's plumbers. And perhaps just as clumsy. Nitram Jan 2021 #31
Photos #1 to #10 BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #12
Photos #11 to #20 BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #13
Photos #21 to #30 BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #14
Photos #31 to #40 BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #15
thanks for posting all this info nt steve2470 Jan 2021 #29
Pipe Bomb Suspect - $50,000 Reward BlueWavePsych Jan 2021 #16
For what it's worth orangecrush Jan 2021 #19
Jesus Christ on a Unicycle orangecrush Jan 2021 #17
Shouldn't this be determined in a court of law? Cozmo Jan 2021 #18
It is! orangecrush Jan 2021 #20
NDAA Section 1021, anyone who has committed a belligerent act marie999 Jan 2021 #28
Goddamn right they did. What was that noose? PatrickforO Jan 2021 #22
They are planning for a redo on the 17th... Lock him up. Jan 2021 #25
I expect a second attempt will be met quite differently. Nitram Jan 2021 #32
Better be told to any nazi Law-Enforcement THEY will be held accountable by the new Congress Lock him up. Jan 2021 #33
Had that been BLM storming the Capitol, the answer to that question would have been Solly Mack Jan 2021 #26
I'm sure they were following the same general plan they used in Michigan world wide wally Jan 2021 #27
Of course they did ! Hangman's noose was set up on the West front of the Capitol steve2470 Jan 2021 #30

Irish_Dem

(47,226 posts)
1. "We're not looking at this as a grand conspiracy."
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 09:49 PM
Jan 2021

Uh, maybe you should at least consider that as a possibility.
Someone funded and organized this coup.

pfitz59

(10,386 posts)
3. I saw the photos
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jan 2021

several of the "rioters" seemed intent on more than mayhem. Also, several obscure offices were broken into and rifled through. Someone or "someones" had a plan...

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
6. I think one of the two guys seen with EZ-cuffs was ex-military
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 10:14 PM
Jan 2021

Last edited Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't have the photo, but he looked as if he was instructing younger rioters. If he is ex-military I hope he is brought up under UCMJ and sent to Leavenworth. Edit...here's the photo.

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
23. Apparently a retired Air Force Lt. Colonel
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:35 AM
Jan 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142664126

It sure smells like there were professional mercenaries involved in this..... and we already know who loves all of them.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
9. Gallows w noose, Plasticuffs, mace, military helmets, body armor, retweets about arresting Pence
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:25 PM
Jan 2021

Well, yeah, maybe, duh?

Zip tie guys #1 and #2


BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
10. FBI MOST WANTED
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021
The FBI is seeking information that will assist in identifying individuals who are actively instigating violence in Washington, D.C. The FBI is accepting tips and digital media depicting rioting and violence in the U.S. Capitol building and surrounding area in Washington, D.C., on January 6, 2021.

We have deployed our full investigative resources and are working closely with our federal, state, and local partners to aggressively pursue those involved in criminal activity during the events of January 6.

If you have witnessed unlawful violent actions, or have any information about the cases below, we urge you to submit any information, photos, or videos that could be relevant at fbi.gov/USCapitol.

You may also call ‪1-800-CALL-FBI (1-‪800-225-5324) to verbally report tips and/or information related to this investigation.

If you do not have an attachment but have information to provide, please submit it at tips.fbi.gov.

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
11. The question is, did professional agents hostile to America piggyback on this amateur incursion
Fri Jan 8, 2021, 11:45 PM
Jan 2021

into the Capitol with plans to collect certain information and/or take hostages.

onetexan

(13,056 posts)
24. Oh i have no doubt. The con could not have come up w this idea himself
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:56 AM
Jan 2021

Ghouliani, flynn...it has their fingerprints all over it. And the thugs who showed up are incombat gear. Biden's DOJ w need to pursue this rigorously &charge those perpetrators w conspiracy&sedition.

orangecrush

(19,597 posts)
17. Jesus Christ on a Unicycle
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 12:13 AM
Jan 2021


They had to shoot one of them to keep them from breaking into an evacuation area!

Is this the fucking Onion?!?
 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. NDAA Section 1021, anyone who has committed a belligerent act
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jan 2021

can be detained indefinitely, without charges or trial, as a suspected terrorist. This post is for showing what can be done and does not mean I approve or disapprove of it.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
22. Goddamn right they did. What was that noose?
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:32 AM
Jan 2021

And that military guy who had those restraint ties?

They were going to break in, take hostages, and probably murder them.

We are SO lucky they were inept. This could have been much, much worse.

Lock him up.

(6,939 posts)
25. They are planning for a redo on the 17th...
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 03:05 AM
Jan 2021
A second wave of Donald John Trump's domestic terRorist$ so #FBI better be prepared (I would suggest SWAT teams all over the area but it's just me )

Lock him up.

(6,939 posts)
33. Better be told to any nazi Law-Enforcement THEY will be held accountable by the new Congress
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 01:09 PM
Jan 2021

The True Story of the Reichstag Fire and the Nazi Rise to Power

When the German parliamentary building went up in flames, Hitler harnessed the incident to seize power
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-reichstag-fire-and-nazis-rise-power-180962240/

Solly Mack

(90,779 posts)
26. Had that been BLM storming the Capitol, the answer to that question would have been
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 04:04 AM
Jan 2021

assumed. No questions asked, really. Just straight up claiming that BLM was planning to cause harm and take hostages.

But law enforcement needs to ponder the possibilities with the Trump cult? They wouldn't give such benefit of the doubt to BLM but extend it to Trump's cult.

Snort.

Of course the Trump cult fuckers meant to cause harm. Their very actions prove that.







steve2470

(37,457 posts)
30. Of course they did ! Hangman's noose was set up on the West front of the Capitol
Sat Jan 9, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jan 2021

Noose appears near Capitol; protesters seen carrying Confederate flags

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/electoral-college-certification-updates-n1252864/ncrd1253129#blogHeader

A noose was erected on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol Wednesday afternoon, attached to a wooden beam.

It was seen as hundreds of pro-Trump demonstrators were crowding around the Capitol amid chaos that involved many of them breaching barricades and going inside the building.

Many were seen carrying Trump campaign flags inside, and some were also carrying Confederate flags.




Granted, that noose might have been "for show" but it's still an indictment of their motives. At least one guy had zip ties to hand cuff VP Pence and other legislators.
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