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BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:47 PM Jan 2021

Rep. Dingell to introduce bill that would fine members $1,000 a day for not wearing masks in Capitol

Source: Washington Post

Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) plans to introduce legislation Tuesday to impose a $1,000 fine on members who refuse to wear masks while in the U.S. Capitol complex. The legislation would amend House rules to add that lawmakers are required to wear masks in the complex. If the Ethics committee “determines that any Member, Delegate or Resident Commissioner” is in violation, the committee “shall fine such individual $1,000 for each day that such violation occurs.”

The proposed bill is set to be introduced after three Democratic lawmakers revealed that they have tested positive for the coronavirus after sheltering with other lawmakers, including some who refused to wear masks, during the lockdown at the U.S. Capitol last week. “It is not brave to refuse to wear a mask, it is selfish, stupid, and shameful behavior that puts lives at risk,” Dingell said in a statement to The Washington Post. “Days ago, a colleague of ours died from this virus and left behind a beautiful, young family to mourn his loss. Yet still, in the midst of a deadly assault on our United States Capitol, a number of our Republican colleagues laughed off rules designed to keep not just their colleagues safe, but to protect the lives of the teams of workers keeping things going, law enforcement, and staff throughout the Capitol.”

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) announced late Monday night that she had tested positive, hours after Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.), a 75-year-old cancer survivor, announced her diagnosis. The announcements from Jayapal and Watson Coleman came after the attending physician to Congress warned lawmakers over the weekend that those who sheltered in a large committee room together as rioters stormed the Capitol may have been exposed to someone with the virus.

A third lawmaker, Rep. Brad Schneider (D-Ill.), said Tuesday morning that he, too, had tested positive after spending “several hours in a secure but confined location with dozens of other Members of Congress.” “We can no longer tolerate Members coming to the floor or gathering in the halls of Congress without doing the bare minimum to protect those around them,” Schneider said in a statement.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/12/trump-impeachment-biden-transition-live-updates/#link-J2UZZXUHANGYFO2WXNUVLEKLOY



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Rep. Dingell to introduce bill that would fine members $1,000 a day for not wearing masks in Capitol (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 OP
YES!! secondwind Jan 2021 #1
Damn well yes Mr. Steve Jan 2021 #20
My Rep DownriverDem Jan 2021 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author mpcamb Jan 2021 #40
She's doing her old man proud. mpcamb Jan 2021 #42
There should be bigger penalties if they get anyone sick (by thoughtlessly going maskless) C_U_L8R Jan 2021 #2
They infected people last week. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #22
Love it! wryter2000 Jan 2021 #3
If it is just a "Rules" change, then it should BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #6
Good. underpants Jan 2021 #4
Its missing a zero or three kirkuchiyo Jan 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #7
$1000 per minute flibbitygiblets Jan 2021 #19
It could be as large a figure as that, easily. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #23
Damn straight! Mme. Defarge Jan 2021 #8
This is insane PatSeg Jan 2021 #9
I think they are required when on the floor BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #11
Reasonable people wouldn't have to PatSeg Jan 2021 #13
Just make it so it can be enforced Yeehah Jan 2021 #10
Do the SAME in the Senate bluestarone Jan 2021 #12
Not nearly enough. RockCreek Jan 2021 #14
Make it $5000 per day. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #15
they wipe their bottoms kristofarian Jan 2021 #18
Question AC_Mem Jan 2021 #16
I really hope birdographer Jan 2021 #17
And when they are at the podium talking, the masks stay on...NO EXCEPTIONS KS Toronado Jan 2021 #21
It should be $1000 per incident. George II Jan 2021 #24
Raise it to $10,00 Leith Jan 2021 #26
Make it $10K! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #27
Write it into law for the country Bluethroughu Jan 2021 #28
Hit these selfish, arrogant, greedy jerks right where it huts them the most - colorado_ufo Jan 2021 #29
give them ONE warning to mask up immediately..if not write a ticket out then and there samnsara Jan 2021 #30
Make sure you define "wear". BadgerKid Jan 2021 #31
Thats fine LPBBEAR Jan 2021 #32
It probably won't pass until we gain control of the Senate. The Animator Jan 2021 #33
This is just a House Rules change so wouldn't go to the Senate. BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #34
$1000 for day one, doubling daily thereafter until remedied Orrex Jan 2021 #35
I like the exponential approach cynical_idealist Jan 2021 #44
Make it an ethics violation and grounds for ouster if either Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #36
Prefer public stockade for an hour with tomatoes "available". Brainfodder Jan 2021 #37
Next to meaningless. Refuse to let them enter or be seated would be a much more appropriate message Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #38
They Should Have To Pay It Out Of Personal Funds COL Mustard Jan 2021 #39
And charge nose hangers double! Lasher Jan 2021 #41
I'm glad I wasn't sipping my coffee BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #43

Response to DownriverDem (Reply #25)

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
6. If it is just a "Rules" change, then it should
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jan 2021

assuming there are no "libertarians" among the Democrats.

Of course the GOP will scream bloody murder, but as Mick Mulvaney reminded us over a year ago - "Elections have consequences".

Response to kirkuchiyo (Reply #5)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
23. It could be as large a figure as that, easily.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:36 PM
Jan 2021

It's not like an unavoidable fee or tax, it's a penalty for bad behaviour. Don't feel it's fair to be subject to a punitive fine? Great. Don't be a dick.

See? Easy.

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
9. This is insane
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

That members of congress are still going maskless in the Capitol. I thought that they were required on the floor already, but apparently some do whatever they want.

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
11. I think they are required when on the floor
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

and the GOP was reluctantly wearing them when debating the objections... But this Rules change seems to be going further to require them anywhere within the Capitol complex, since this latest super-spreader event happened in an ancillary room and not on the House floor.

PatSeg

(47,547 posts)
13. Reasonable people wouldn't have to
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:29 PM
Jan 2021

be threatened with huge fines to get them to do the right thing. Their smug disregard for the health and well-being of others is appalling.

Yeehah

(4,589 posts)
10. Just make it so it can be enforced
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jan 2021

Too many laws and rules have been totally ignored by republicans the past four years with no consequences.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
14. Not nearly enough.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jan 2021

And something a crazy MAGA antimask donor can pay for them -- indirectly if not directly.
There need to be teeth to any such resolution, and that alone does not have any.

 

kristofarian

(75 posts)
18. they wipe their bottoms
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jan 2021

with $1K bills -- or they would, if they didn't have poor people doing it for them -- so, yeah, $5K might make them set up and think about it, but when ya got all them Millions, what's a measly $5K -- or even $50K/day in one's endless Fight for Freedom (to Inflict)?

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
16. Question
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jan 2021

Who, among the mask-less, passed the virus? I think he/she should be identified; if they tested everyone they should know who it is. You don't usually see the Democrats getting sick with the virus (because they take precautions) and the fact that three of them have gotten sick while in close proximity to those who refused to wear masks, is alarming. Especially since they WERE wearing masks.

Annette


birdographer

(1,333 posts)
17. I really hope
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 01:56 PM
Jan 2021

the paperwork is VERY specific that the mask must cover nose and mouth. They will hang it from one ear and say they are "wearing" it. And WHY don't these MFs not get sick????

KS Toronado

(17,284 posts)
21. And when they are at the podium talking, the masks stay on...NO EXCEPTIONS
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:22 PM
Jan 2021

Give these mask-less assholes an inch, they'll take a mile.....NO EXCEPTIONS

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
28. Write it into law for the country
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:47 PM
Jan 2021

Public spaces, masks mandatory. They did that in 1918 Spanish Flu plague. Police fined people for wearing it wrong also.

samnsara

(17,625 posts)
30. give them ONE warning to mask up immediately..if not write a ticket out then and there
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jan 2021

..these effing idiots are trying to kill us.

LPBBEAR

(296 posts)
32. Thats fine
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jan 2021

but drag their idiot butts out at the same time and throw them on the outside steps and tell them they can come back when they fully pay their damn fine and wear a mask......properly. No off the nose shit. If they can't do either bar them.

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
33. It probably won't pass until we gain control of the Senate.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jan 2021

but that penalty needs to fucking hurt. Make it a $100,000 daily fine, an amount that would even give Mitch McConnell pause.

After two days, they would lose their entire salary for the year.

This rule should be in effect until such time as every member of Congress has been vaccinated.

It would set the proper “Do we look like we’re fucking around?” tone that is sorely needed.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
36. Make it an ethics violation and grounds for ouster if either
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 03:55 PM
Jan 2021

It is a repeat offense, or if it occurs during an emergency in which members are forced into a situation without social distancing.

If someone had pointed a gun at others that would be considered threatening their lives and they would be arrested. It should be the same with willfully exposing others to a fatal disease.

COL Mustard

(5,913 posts)
39. They Should Have To Pay It Out Of Personal Funds
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 06:12 PM
Jan 2021

No campaign donations or office funds allowed, nor any GoFundMe or other crowdsourcing.

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