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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:12 PM Jan 2021

Tensions flare between House Republicans, Capitol Police over metal detectors

Source: The Hill

Tensions flared Tuesday evening between a handful of House Republicans and the Capitol Police over new metal detectors that were placed outside the House chamber in the wake of the attack on the Capitol.

The lawmakers were heard by reporters complaining about the detectors and railing against Democrats as they tried to enter the House chamber to vote, saying they were not consulted by Democratic leadership about the decision to install the devices.

“You’re taking valuable resources completely away from where it needs to be, and you guys did it without any consultation with the minority,” Rep. Rodney Davis (R-Ill.) shouted at House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) before calling the detectors “bullshit.”

“You are creating a problem you do not understand the ramifications of,” Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) yelled at the police manning the detectors, shouting at them to “get back” and “don’t touch me.”




Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/533959-tensions-flare-between-house-republicans-capitol-police-over-metal-detectors
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Tensions flare between House Republicans, Capitol Police over metal detectors (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2021 OP
Why are metal detectors a problem for them? Isn't that their major solution to BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #1
They are testing the new security for the insurrectionists on the 17th. Thomas Hurt Jan 2021 #3
their afraid police will find out Putin wired them for sound. nt yaesu Jan 2021 #2
republicans have such a sense of entitlement Cobalt Violet Jan 2021 #4
And they apparently don't understand that the majority makes the rules. Nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #5
It's bad politics--the rest of us regular people have to go through these BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #7
In some places... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #15
I know I have to go through them when I go in the Federal building stopwastingmymoney Jan 2021 #18
Right modrepub Jan 2021 #31
Why should they be consulted? catrose Jan 2021 #6
What are they trying to sneak into the Capitol building? truthisfreedom Jan 2021 #8
+1 2naSalit Jan 2021 #16
Who Takes Care of Tying Shoelaces and Flossing of Teeth for These Jagoffs? The Roux Comes First Jan 2021 #9
They're giving cover for their worst, Boebert. When they don't consult with Democratic leadership ancianita Jan 2021 #10
Insurrections have consequences. RiverbendsJoe Jan 2021 #11
Wow, both my former Rep. (Womack) and my current Rep. (Davis). I'm so lucky. sinkingfeeling Jan 2021 #12
They deserve both a metal detector and a rectal cavity search every time they enter. mpcamb Jan 2021 #33
I thought they were the party of "law and order" durablend Jan 2021 #13
Why, yes, Congressman-- Bayard Jan 2021 #14
Entitled Douchebags MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #21
Definite trump-wannabes Bayard Jan 2021 #25
Will it embarrass them if they are caught carrying guns onto the floor of the Capitol? tclambert Jan 2021 #17
"You are creating a problem you do not understand the ramifications of," Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) TryLogic Jan 2021 #19
it appears... myohmy2 Jan 2021 #20
Detectors should be placed at entrances to the entire building. 3Hotdogs Jan 2021 #22
That's what I said when that police dog started barking at me. JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #23
And we're the snowflakes ??? n/t rustysgurl Jan 2021 #24
More white supremacy on parade. Do they have not a smidgen of self awareness? littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #26
At this point in time blue-wave Jan 2021 #27
Is there a video ??? SamKnause Jan 2021 #28
Yeah, the response of the Rs to Trump's insurrection is to want guns themselves. moriah Jan 2021 #29
Thanks. SamKnause Jan 2021 #32
Ahh. No, I only saw them upset about having to use them not that they REFUSED... moriah Jan 2021 #34
what the hell do they have to hide? n/t RocRizzo55 Jan 2021 #30
Metal detector and purse search to go into the county courthouse here Maeve Jan 2021 #35
Hypocrites Mz Pip Jan 2021 #36
They better stay away from airports, libraries, courthouses, police stations- if they Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2021 #37

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
1. Why are metal detectors a problem for them? Isn't that their major solution to
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:15 PM
Jan 2021

mass shootings? How could this possibly be objectionable?

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
4. republicans have such a sense of entitlement
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:18 PM
Jan 2021

Entitled to not do a fucking thing for safety and well being of others.

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
7. It's bad politics--the rest of us regular people have to go through these
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:23 PM
Jan 2021

and most of us understand it, it helps keeps us safe with a minimum amount of personal intrusion. How fucking elitist of them to suggest they are above it.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
15. In some places...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:31 AM
Jan 2021

You have to go through them just to get into the courthouse to register your car or register to vote and stuff.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
18. I know I have to go through them when I go in the Federal building
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:59 AM
Jan 2021

Here in CA (I occasionally have to go to the IRS office on business)

modrepub

(3,502 posts)
31. Right
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 07:15 AM
Jan 2021

You can't walk into any federal building with a gun (for the most part; I've heard rumors that some federal judges pack). No one should be exempt from a rule that the vast majority of others have to follow.

truthisfreedom

(23,154 posts)
8. What are they trying to sneak into the Capitol building?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:29 PM
Jan 2021

Why are they so sensitive about having large metal objects detected?

The Roux Comes First

(1,300 posts)
9. Who Takes Care of Tying Shoelaces and Flossing of Teeth for These Jagoffs?
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jan 2021

No rules or discipline ever submitted to in their life? Only for others? Talk about a spoiled Elite class!!

Or is it worse, they are still fighting the trailing battles of their own Lost Cause?

ancianita

(36,133 posts)
10. They're giving cover for their worst, Boebert. When they don't consult with Democratic leadership
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021

about the likes of her, Democratic leadership doesn't have to consult with them, either.

Fuck those whiny Trump bitches.

sinkingfeeling

(51,473 posts)
12. Wow, both my former Rep. (Womack) and my current Rep. (Davis). I'm so lucky.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 11:54 PM
Jan 2021

You could say I've had zero representation in Congress for the last 40 years.

Bayard

(22,149 posts)
14. Why, yes, Congressman--
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:27 AM
Jan 2021

The rules do apply to you! And anyone giving the cops there grief should be fined or censored.

I said yesterday, I didn't understand why they don't have metal detectors like courthouses and airports do. If they're not packing, they don't need to worry.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
17. Will it embarrass them if they are caught carrying guns onto the floor of the Capitol?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 12:42 AM
Jan 2021

With their voter base, getting caught with a gun might gain them votes.

So I wonder if they have other things in their bags or pockets that they don't want the cops to find if they get patted down?

Drugs. I bet it will be drugs. The cops looking for guns may find drugs and drug paraphernalia. Note to future lawmakers: Leave your bong in your office. Don't take it with you to the floor.

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
19. "You are creating a problem you do not understand the ramifications of," Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jan 2021

yelled..."

And what exactly are those ramifications, Mr. Womack? Please explain. Please share what you know about the future plans of the insurrectionists.

myohmy2

(3,176 posts)
20. it appears...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:20 AM
Jan 2021

...republicans don't want metal objects to be detected entering the Capitol...

...I wonder why?

" You are creating a problem you do not understand the ramifications of, "

...like what, security?

...

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
23. That's what I said when that police dog started barking at me.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 01:50 AM
Jan 2021

Weed? I don't have any weed. Shouldn't that K9 be solving missing children cases somewhere?

littlemissmartypants

(22,797 posts)
26. More white supremacy on parade. Do they have not a smidgen of self awareness?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:28 AM
Jan 2021

What great coworkers they are...not. Entitled psychopaths with extremely exaggerated self importance. I am sick to death of these fools.

blue-wave

(4,363 posts)
27. At this point in time
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:41 AM
Jan 2021

the republiCon snowflakes have proven that there is not one of them who can be trusted. Therefore, send them through the detectors. I would pass a rule that if they refuse, they will not be allowed on the house floor.

The GOP imbeciles scream and project the loudest over anything even as they commit, or provoke others to commit the most egregious crimes known to our country. Personally, I say they are worthless to the USA. Throw them out of congress and make them clean latrines for those they made homeless. If they scream more, just mouth gag them. They have completely lost me with the capitol storming. Can you tell?

moriah

(8,311 posts)
29. Yeah, the response of the Rs to Trump's insurrection is to want guns themselves.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 06:37 AM
Jan 2021

But handguns have never been allowed in the House chambers themselves before, not even carried by Representatives themselves.

Edit: made video

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4937084/user-clip-jordan-wanting-guns

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
32. Thanks.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 08:13 AM
Jan 2021

I meant video of them refusing to go through the metal detectors.

I wanted to see them being the asses that they are.

I watched the majority of the proceedings, but missed the action.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. Ahh. No, I only saw them upset about having to use them not that they REFUSED...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:27 PM
Jan 2021

... just that they thought what happened made them want their replacement for manhood (or in Boebert's case, her desired response to every conspiracy theory) right there so they themselves can blow the insurrectionists away.

And that's allowed -- everywhere EXCEPT the House (and I believe Senate) floors. Aides are supposed to hold their sidearms while they are in session, and there are a few other laws.

Which honestly would work better in such an insurrection, really, if she thought about it. The normal thing is to have armed people paid to take care of the House/Senate chambers, especially Pelosi, Pence, and the President pro Tempore of the Senate. Aka, the Secret Service. Secret Service people either want to know who all has guns besides themselves beforehand, or want the guns.

If she'd left her heat with her aides, then if they'd breached the door they were hiding in -- like they almost got to Pelosi's aides -- THEN that's when a sidearm makes sense.

And yes, Reps/Senators allowed to carry on Capitol grounds and as they come to and from the Capitol grounds, as that's seen as one of the times someone could attempt to harm them and know where they'd be.

Maeve

(42,288 posts)
35. Metal detector and purse search to go into the county courthouse here
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jan 2021

Forgot I had folding scissors and a metal nail-file in there....

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
36. Hypocrites
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jan 2021

If our kids can go through metal detectors to get to their classrooms, they can go through metal detectors to go to class.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
37. They better stay away from airports, libraries, courthouses, police stations- if they
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jan 2021

dont like metal detectors.

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