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Zorro

(15,749 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:41 AM Feb 2021

Trump Lawyer Asks to Pause Impeachment Trial if It Runs Into Sabbath

Source: New York Times

The request by David Schoen, one of former President Donald J. Trump’s lawyers, could upend plans for a fast trial.

Democrats and Republicans eager to tidily conclude former President Donald J. Trump’s impeachment trial within a week may have a fresh obstacle in front of them: the biblical commandment to keep the Jewish Sabbath.

One of the lead defense lawyers for Mr. Trump has informed Senate leaders that he is an observant Jew who strictly adheres to the commandment against working on the Sabbath, and thus would be unable to participate in any proceeding that stretched past sundown on Friday or met on Saturday.

In a letter obtained by The New York Times, the lawyer, David Schoen, asked that the trial be suspended if it was not finished by the beginning of the Sabbath at 5:24 p.m. on Friday, and that it not reconvene until Sunday.

“I apologize for the inconvenience my request that impeachment proceedings not be conducted during the Jewish Sabbath undoubtedly will cause other people involved in the proceedings,” Mr. Schoen said in the letter. “The practices and prohibitions are mandatory for me, however; so, respectfully, I have no choice but to make this request.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/us/politics/trump-impeachment-trial.html

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Trump Lawyer Asks to Pause Impeachment Trial if It Runs Into Sabbath (Original Post) Zorro Feb 2021 OP
Because Trump is such a reverent guy Clash City Rocker Feb 2021 #1
+100 Rhiannon12866 Feb 2021 #9
Came here to say it mahina Feb 2021 #31
Separation of church and state? dchill Feb 2021 #2
Hey buddy, you do you, and everyone else will just carry on in their own manner regardless RockRaven Feb 2021 #3
Remind him that Jared got special permission to ride in a car to attend the balls in 2017 karynnj Feb 2021 #4
How does Mr Schoen feel about representing a man whose supporters wear Camp Auschwitz shirts? dem4decades Feb 2021 #5
+1 orangecrush Feb 2021 #15
$$$ demosincebirth Feb 2021 #16
The Qult deaR leadeR stiffs his lawyers when he loses. nt Lock him up. Feb 2021 #43
Can't he just get a Shabbos Goy dflprincess Feb 2021 #6
Perfect response!!! COLGATE4 Feb 2021 #24
Big deal. He won't be the only lawyer Trump has, so they can take turns on Saturday & Sunday Hekate Feb 2021 #7
I agree. It's what the lawyer group I worked for... WePurrsevere Feb 2021 #22
Tough sh*t, sherlock; elleng Feb 2021 #8
There always seems to be a safeinOhio Feb 2021 #19
Maybe tRump can stand outside Mar a Lardo holding an upside-down Torah Blue Owl Feb 2021 #10
He can just as easily not attend the trial. secondwind Feb 2021 #11
So? 2naSalit Feb 2021 #12
Oy. If he was that observant he shouldn't have taken the job. SunSeeker Feb 2021 #13
I hope he runs into this orangecrush Feb 2021 #14
The Album That Changed My Musical Life! ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #37
.... orangecrush Feb 2021 #40
It was special to me too mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #44
Can't be a very observant Jew Miguelito Loveless Feb 2021 #17
. . orangecrush Feb 2021 #41
A little research will prove whether he is truly observant. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2021 #18
My thought, exactly. Paladin Feb 2021 #34
ah... this is when you get another lawyer on your team to step in and handle it TomDaisy Feb 2021 #20
Why Stop There? Nocturnowl Feb 2021 #21
It's not going to be a popular opinion here, but as the son of a Jew, I support his request that he Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2021 #23
He doesn't have to participate. elleng Feb 2021 #30
Run the trial 24 hrs a day. bluestarone Feb 2021 #25
Ruth Bader Ginsberg is probably rolling over in her grave at all this intolenace ripcord Feb 2021 #26
I can respect his request, but he does have a DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #27
For a moment I thought they were going to try to tell us Trump is a Jew. milestogo Feb 2021 #28
I don't think prolonging this will work out well for Donnie Two Scoops. So I really hope he does. marble falls Feb 2021 #29
In other words... jmowreader Feb 2021 #32
lol. i've been getting exhausted just anticipating the start of the trial nt orleans Feb 2021 #33
Right elleng Feb 2021 #46
Force him to be there on the sabbath. clementine613 Feb 2021 #35
From sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday, let Trump defend himself PurgedVoter Feb 2021 #36
No. No delay. old guy Feb 2021 #38
May be a trial run. Griefbird Feb 2021 #39
Request Granted. No Impeachment Trial on the Sabbath. clementine613 Feb 2021 #42
I have friends that sure as sh*t don't f***ing roll ... mr_lebowski Feb 2021 #45

mahina

(17,693 posts)
31. Came here to say it
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 02:54 PM
Feb 2021

The guy is certainly entitled to his old religion and whatever his habits or choices are but that doesn’t mean the whole world stops

RockRaven

(14,990 posts)
3. Hey buddy, you do you, and everyone else will just carry on in their own manner regardless
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:44 AM
Feb 2021

You are free to do as you like, religion wise, but that's got nothing to do with any of us. See you the day after. You'll catch up with whatever happened while you were gone just fine...

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
4. Remind him that Jared got special permission to ride in a car to attend the balls in 2017
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:48 AM
Feb 2021

even though it was shabbat. However a pause right after the defense makes an emotional case with all the facts on iour side spelling out just what that mob did is NOT in their interest as it will be repeated on the weekend shows. He incited that rally.

I wonder if the Senate can simply point out that it is not required that all his lawyers be there to very day.

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
7. Big deal. He won't be the only lawyer Trump has, so they can take turns on Saturday & Sunday
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

...and cover both Sabbath and Shabbos. I am just so not impressed.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
22. I agree. It's what the lawyer group I worked for...
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 07:34 AM
Feb 2021

Eons ago did. It wasn't just one person working on the case of in front of a judge and jury.

elleng

(131,077 posts)
8. Tough sh*t, sherlock;
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 12:51 AM
Feb 2021

find him another lawyer.

AND keep in mind 'dispensation' from Jewish laws are available for 'exigent circumstances.'

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
11. He can just as easily not attend the trial.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 01:34 AM
Feb 2021

But asking the entire shitshow to stop the world because he wants to get off is pretty BALLSY, imho.

2naSalit

(86,767 posts)
12. So?
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 01:39 AM
Feb 2021

We have a trial to conduct and you either participate or you don't, religious practices have no role in this.

ProfessorGAC

(65,159 posts)
37. The Album That Changed My Musical Life!
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 05:56 PM
Feb 2021

In freshman year of HS, I was serious about my jazz piano.
Like kids my age, I listened to pop & rock, and loved Beatles, Cream, etc.
Then my uncle bought me this album for Christmas. (Yeah, Black Sabbath for Christmas.)
First song comes on, I hear those opening notes, and immediately I think "You can do flatted fifths in rock? I'm in!).
2 years later I'm singing & playing organ in a rock band.
Never regretted it. 2,000+ gigs later.
I still play jazz piano, even in a rock tune. But, I really love playing rock guitar.
It was because of this album.

18. A little research will prove whether he is truly observant.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:25 AM
Feb 2021

Look for previous cases where he participated in trials, hearings, or filed legal documents during the Sabbath. If you find even one incident, that shoots down his argument.

It could all be resolved by having Fat Donnie plead guilty.

Paladin

(28,271 posts)
34. My thought, exactly.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:38 PM
Feb 2021

Let's see just how many times in the past Mr. Schoen detached from his professional duties to observe the Sabbath. I have a feeling it will be none. When trump is involved, you're entitled to expect the worst.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
23. It's not going to be a popular opinion here, but as the son of a Jew, I support his request that he
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 10:33 AM
Feb 2021

not be asked to participate on Shabbos. Of course, if there is a goyishe lawyer on Trump's team, the case can proceed without Mr Schoen.

ripcord

(5,507 posts)
26. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is probably rolling over in her grave at all this intolenace
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 11:50 AM
Feb 2021

She and Beyer got SCOTUS to not allow arguments on Yom Kipur even if it fell on a weekday so they and other Jews could observe the holiday.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
32. In other words...
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:10 PM
Feb 2021

Stop the hearings at 5 pm on Friday and don’t have them on Saturday. Then stand down on Sunday so the Christians who attend church can do that.

I see no big problem with this; after a week of hearing the most outrageous crap imaginable, everyone’s going to need a couple of days off to recover anyway.

clementine613

(561 posts)
35. Force him to be there on the sabbath.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 03:55 PM
Feb 2021

I'm sorry, but if you agree to work for Trump, you've forfeited all your basic human rights, because you've proven yourself not human. Force him to be there.

PurgedVoter

(2,218 posts)
36. From sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday, let Trump defend himself
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 04:25 PM
Feb 2021

No one should have to go against the law or their faith. Yet, David Schoen, let us examine your bank accounts since you are good practicing Jew and have nothing to hide. When we see that you have never spent money on the Sabbath, we will know that you do indeed practice this simple requirement of your faith.

Griefbird

(96 posts)
39. May be a trial run.
Sun Feb 7, 2021, 06:45 PM
Feb 2021

If it works, former president can maintain that as a Christian, he can only be judged by G_d.

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