Murkowski: I don't know how Trump could be elected again
Source: The Hill
After the American public sees the full story laid out here ... I dont see how Donald Trump could be reelected to the presidency again, Murkowski told reporters.
Murkowskis comments come as House impeachment managers are hours into their opening presentations.
On Wednesday, impeachment managers showed never-before-seen security footage of lawmakers evacuating the Capitol, rioters breaking into the building, and close calls for Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/538334-murkowski-i-dont-know-how-trump-could-be-elected-again
So, we'll put her down as a "maybe"?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Because he can never win again.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Anything to avoid taking any responsibility and do their jobs.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Only a handful will vote to convict.
I predict maybe 6. No more than 12.
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)When there is a mountain of damning evidence like this. Just shameless in their corruption.
Geechie
(865 posts)Americans have the attention span of a gnat, and no memory beyond last week.
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)Then they remember just fine.
To right-wing lurkers suspecting that I want Republicans thrown out of office and sent to the political wilderness: yes, youre right, I do. Forty years is a bare minimum.
Geechie
(865 posts)40 years is how long weve been living with the fucked up Ray-Gun legacy. Only fair...
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Murkowski and Collins are liars and hypocrites.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)If the Senate doesnt convict him, remove him and prohibit him from ever holding public office
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Wake up Lisa.
lastlib
(23,248 posts)If he's acquitted, this election and its aftermath becomes a damn TRAINING VIDEO, can'tcha see, dear*? We're not doing an Act 2 here, you damn bleepin' moron!
(*This term is used solely as a salutory expression--NOT to be construed as an indication of actual affection, of which we have NONE for you.)
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)Just that she doesn't think he could win again.
Whether he can or cannot, he will most likely run again in 2024.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,011 posts)"Oh, he can't get elected again anyway after this, so I don't need to vote to convict him."
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Along the lines of 'he's learned his lesson'.
Fug these people.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)TomSlick
(11,100 posts)There is a core of Trump supporters (small but extant) that will find the actions of January 6 to be a reason to vote for Trump - not against him. As to the rest, the collective memory of Americans is short.
Murkowski is not suggesting she will vote to convict. She is justifying why she will not.
The best hope for ending the Trump political career is criminal convictions.
Lasher
(27,597 posts)If Murkiwski doesn't vote to convict she will hide behind the lie that the Senate trial is unconstitutional. That's still a lie, but it's more believable than Trump is innocent.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)She will justify her vote to acquit saying the trial is unconstitutional but it's irrelevant anyway - Trump could never be elected again.
I cannot condemn her too much, the Arkansas Senators will vote to acquit because that is what a majority in Arkansas want.
BigmanPigman
(51,610 posts)I think they use the Magic 8 Ball to decide which action to take on an issue. That is how important this process is to them.
Well good, because God knows there arent enough idiots to ever elect anybody criminally unqualified for the job. We can just rely on your prophesy.
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Oldem
(833 posts)Collins said she thought the president had learned "a pretty big lesson." I wonder what she'll say this time. If he's acquitted, the lesson he'll learn is that he really can shoot somebody on 5th Ave. and not lose a single voter.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)shut up and let the process proceed. Keep your masks on and your mouths shut!
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)So she'll not vote for conviction. It's a "well duh" in Alaska.
LeftInTX
(25,376 posts)Alaska has population of only 917,000. She won as a write-in against a Tea Party Republican who beat her in the 2010 primary. That's basically like running for mayor in the city of about the size of Austin. I think the small population worked in her favor.
She could vote either way......
Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)I can't confidently guess what the landscape will look like in 2024. We have optimism for the job this administration is doing and confidence that we will have competent leadership going forward... but somebody will pick up the mantle of this son of a bitch and try to run with it. And I'm okay with that so long as it is not again this son of a bitch!
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)well, I didn't know how he could have been elected in 2016 After the American public saw what was shown about him" at that time... "the American people have not all learned their lesson"
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)LogicFirst
(571 posts)turtleblossom
(504 posts)They believe Tяump is their god...
TomDaisy
(1,874 posts)chowder66
(9,073 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)He's not going to age well, and the evidence is factual that cannot be well mitigated.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)I expect there to be faithful supporters, but the attack ads write themselves.
orleans
(34,060 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)Your colleagues and you acquit him. And he runs in 2024. Actually, he won't wait that long, he will try to raise another insurrection since there is no penalty for trying.
hadEnuf
(2,194 posts)Kind of what this whole impeachment is about, you ass-kissing traitor.
Sorry, your boss doesn't get off that easy.
Jedi Guy
(3,193 posts)If they acquit and he runs again in 2024, he'll win their primary. He knows it, they know it. His ability to run again is the kiss of death for any Republican with presidential aspirations in the next election cycle. Leaving that door open for him does nothing but extend his dominance into the next cycle.
On the flip side, voting to convict locks him out of politics for good. Now that he's been muzzled by social media, his ability to whip his followers into a frenzy is hamstrung. In four years, some of his kooky followers may still be salty that they "turned" on him, but most will have moved on. Voting to convict allows them to, as a party, say "we repudiate him and what he stands for."
The only reasons to acquit are that they agree with him and his agenda, or they're shit-scared of his followers. Voting to convict safeguards their chances at winning the 2024 primary and, more importantly, is better for the country.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)So naive, so unschooled in the ways of Fascism...
Warpy
(111,276 posts)to have a 20% progressive rating, I looked it up a couple of days ago.
I don't hold out a lot of hope for the Old Boys' Club. Well, maybe Romney, but he's got enough money to thumb his nose at the rest.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Put her down as a maybe? She may just be excusing her vote to acquit. "I didn't think he could get elected again so..."
uberblonde
(1,215 posts)"Right?"
Bayard
(22,099 posts)Massive scale cheating. You know--that thing he projects onto Dems.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)Miz LisaM. decided to be enablers and allowed it to happen.
summer_in_TX
(2,739 posts)At the first impeachment the only reason she didn't vote to convict then was that there was a solid wall of R opposition and Dems were in the minority. She gave me the distinct impression then that she thought their case had merit.
I believe all she was doing was saying that if the speculation that there won't be enough R votes to convict him, she believes the evidence is so damning that he won't ever win, even if he isn't banned.
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MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)for the Susan Collins defense of hes learned his lesson or the public knows better than to re-elect him. Theyre pathetic.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)This is the republiKKKan female politician. Either they are dumb as a box of rocks, or something bat-shit crazy like blackburn or that nightmare from Minnesota...the rep. What an embarrassment of a jackass. (I don't even want to remember her name.....what an ass.)
patphil
(6,182 posts)These Republicans really don't have an ounce of courage, let alone integrity.
I seriously doubt that more than 5 or 6 Republicans will vote to convict. Only those who plan to retire before re-election or who are 6 years away from their next election.
The Republicans have turned the party of Lincoln into the party of stinkin.
Dan
(3,570 posts)it is not that he might or might not be elected again - it is that he is a clear and present danger to the Nation!
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)But she'll never vote to impeach. And that's exactly the excuse she'll use, "It should be up to the voters, but surely they won't make that mistake again." Uh-huh. Towers of jell-o. All of them.
SunSeeker
(51,572 posts)And yet it happened. That is why he must be banned from holding office.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)twodogsbarking
(9,759 posts)Gorilla Glue sprayed on Trump's hair or whatever that shit on his head is.
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dlk
(11,569 posts)With the high levels of Republicans gerrymandering and voter suppression only being ramped up, Lisa know exactly why Trump or someone just like him could be elected again. Even so, that's no excuse for not holding him accountable for causing the heinous insurrection.
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)And spread blood and feces and zip ties everywhere and maim and murder and terrorise.
Marthe48
(16,975 posts)if his followers are willing to murder unarmed senior citizens, they won't want to have one as a leader
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)are a damn fool!