House passes bill expanding background checks for gun sales

[DonViejo]

Source: USA Today


Matthew Brown
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON - The House of Representatives passed the H.R.8, gun control legislation that expands background checks on individuals seeking to purchase or transfer firearms.

"This bill is a critical step toward preventing gun violence and saving lives," Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., who sponsored the bill, said ahead of its passage. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., introduced the companion bill in the Senate.

The bill, titled the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 227-203. It received a handful of Republican votes — eight — and had one Democrat vote against. In 2019, the bill was passed with eight Republican votes, five of whom co-sponsored the package.

What H.R. 8 does and doesn't do

H.R. 8, a clean background checks package meant to enhance reviews of those seeking to acquire firearms, does not create a firearms registry or other federal mechanisms for review.



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[Blues Heron]

1. good - the harder it is to get one, the more lives saved

Fucking guns - what a plague on humanity

[Dial H For Hero]

7. It's almost certain not to pass the Senate.

[Blues Heron]

8. I know - two steps forward, one step back and all that

Maybe some day people will wake up and melt them all down.

[Dial H For Hero]

9. I'm certainly not melting mine down. Whenever I dispose of a gun, it's at an auction.

In any case, I dont' have nearly as many firearms as I did in the past. After collecting for thirty years, I began thinning out the collection, selling them at auctions (for quite the tidy profit!). I barely have a couple dozen or so these days.

[Blues Heron]

10. If I ever came into posession of a firearm, esp a collectible valuable one

I'd crush it.

[Dial H For Hero]

11. That would of course be your prerogative were such a firearm your property. I am curious, though...

Why would you be more inclined to destroy a gun which was valuable and collectible? Is there some reason you would find more satisfaction from crushing a $50,000 Winchester lever action rifle from the 19th Century than you would, say, a $300 Ruger .22 rifle?

[EX500rider]

21. Are you under the impression there are lots of murders committed with antique black powder weapons?

[Blues Heron]

22. Not really, just to see gun owners tears as their precious filigree

gets crushed. They should all be melted down.

[iluvtennis]

19. ++++ agree. nt

[bearsfootball516]

2. Any chance this survives the Senate?

[melm00se]

3. It'll be tough

for Democrats in rural states (like Montana) to support this.

That alone is enough for it to die.

Then factor in ME, VT, PA and WV (all gun friendly states) and the outlook dims.

[Elessar Zappa]

6. Even in conservative states,

the majority support background checks. Last poll I saw some 90% of Americans supported legislation like this.

[KS Toronado]

4. What we really need is a "Assault Type Weapons" firearms registry

Honest people will register theirs in the hope of getting it back if stolen. Persons unwilling to register their AR15s,
AK47s, etc. do not want the guns traced back to them, think neo-nazis, kkk, Qrumper insurrectionists.

[Dial H For Hero]

13. What would such a registry accomplish?

Were one or more of my AR's or AK's stolen, I would immediately report it to both the police and my insurance.

As for those who don't wish to register their firearms, I think it fair to say that such feelings are quite common among gunowners....perhaps as many as half of them. So unless you think that there are arouond a hundred millionf Neo-Nazis, KKK members, and Qrumper insurrectionists in the United States, they must have some other motivation.

[KS Toronado]

15. Confiscate & destroy any assault type weapons that are not registered.

Honest law abiding citizens have no problem adhering to current laws. Persons wanting their 10 minutes of fame
planning another Sandy Hook or similar mass shooting will want to keep their ATWs secret. These are the people
who should not own guns, and if confiscate & destroy law was in place, it just might save a bunch of lives,
maybe even your own.

[Dial H For Hero]

16. And if half of gunowners refuse to register such weapons, how exactly will the government go about

confiscating and destroying 15 million guns, given that they don't have the slightest clue who owns them?

Persons wanting their 10 minutes of fame
planning another Sandy Hook or similar mass shooting will want to keep their ATWs secret. These are the people
who should not own guns,

If someone is planning another Sandy Hook or similar shooting, why would they care about registration? They would simply buy the gun, register it, and a few weeks later commit the atrocity.

and if confiscate & destroy law was in place, it just might save a bunch of lives,
maybe even your own.

Extraordinarily unlikely. Statistically, my chance of being murdered in any given year (given my demographics) is roughly 1 in 100,000. The likelihood that I would be killed in a mass shooting is considerably less.

[KS Toronado]

18. Our government would never allow a house by house search & destroy mission

tRump being the fascist he is would have loved a house to house search for illegal aliens.
On the other hand when law enforcement officers during their normal daily interactions with the public, lets say a
domestic violence call, happen to come across an unregistered assault weapon, the owner can say goodbye to
the gun and pay a hefty fine, $1000 fine should get most people's attention.

[oldsoftie]

20. Its amazing what some people think is possible.

The "gun" genie is out of the bottle. With 300+ million out there they are never going to go away.
As the meme says "why are gun owners such bad boat drivers?"

[EX500rider]

23. "Statistically, my chance of being murdered in any given year..."

Indeed, seeing as how people with rifles including "assault rifles" only commit about 300 murders a year (less then hands & feet, knives & bats) I'd say the odds of being killed with a rifle vanishingly small. Much more likely to be killed by what's under your sink or your ladder or car:

Unintentional fall deaths
Number of deaths: 39,433

Unintentional poisoning deaths
Number of deaths: 65,773

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 37,595

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm

[Polybius]

5. What Democrat voted no?

I'm curious.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

12. Schumer vows quick Senate action on House gun reforms

Senate Democrats say they're ready to charge ahead on House-passed gun reforms, daring Senate Republicans to oppose legislation that's wildly popular outside the Beltway.

"The legislative graveyard is over," Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told reporters Thursday in the Capitol. "H.R.8 will be on the floor of the Senate, and we will see where everybody stands."

He did not say when the upper chamber would take up the bill. But Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), another prominent gun reformer, said he expects it to happen "soon."

"We're having hearings in the Judiciary Committee at some point in a matter of weeks," he said. "And then it will be some time, my guess is, after that."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/schumer-vows-quick-senate-action-on-house-gun-reforms/ar-BB1euDa4?li=BBnbfcQ&ocid=DELLDHP

[Dial H For Hero]

14. Oh, it will come to a vote, that seems quite likely. It simply won't get past the Filibuster.

[Evolve Dammit]

17. It's about fucking time.