More Americans Want Inquiry Into Voter Fraud Claims Than Riot, Poll Says
Source: Bloomberg via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-americans-want-inquiry-into-voter-fraud-claims-than-riot-poll-says/ar-BB1eGHZ9?li=BB141NW3&ocid=U483DHP
(Bloomberg) -- More Americans want an independent investigation into voter fraud in the 2020 election than into the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, according to a poll from Monmouth University released Wednesday.
Although election officials across the country have said there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election despite claims to the contrary by former President Donald Trump, 59% of Americans in the poll said they would like an independent investigation into the allegations.
Slightly fewer, 53% of Americans, say there should be an independent commission created to investigate the riot at the U.S. Capitol that left five people dead, including a police officer. An additional 37% say an internal review of how officials dealt with the riot would be enough.
The Monmouth poll was conducted over the phone from February 25 to March 1, and has a margin of error of 3.5 percentage points.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has proposed a 9/11-style bipartisan commission to investigate the events on January 6. But Republican lawmakers have pushed back over the commissions proposed makeup and whether it would also look into broader questions of political unrest, including protests over racism and police violence.
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I wonder if any of them heard about TX spending 22,000 hours looking into fraud and finding only 16 mis-matched addresses
intrepidity
(7,336 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,238 posts)FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)Maxheader
(4,374 posts)imho...no I have no numbers to compare..no I have no articles to reference.
I question their information gathering techniques...
gab13by13
(21,403 posts)The Hill is my #1 site that pizzes me off.
WVreaper
(623 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I suspect that's what Bloomberg did here.
bullimiami
(13,103 posts)The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)As was done back during the ACA deliberations. A large number were reported as not liking this, but generally no distinction was made between people who opposed the act because it was 'big government', and those who thought it ought to go a good deal further than it did.
An investigation into the 'rigged election' charges might well make even more plain than it is already that not only were these bogus, but identify plainly the liars and cheats who promoted the bogus claims, and their purpose in doing so. I would not mind such an investigation in the slightest....
Ligyron
(7,639 posts)Because the vast majority of any voter fraud discovered will, without a doubt, have been perpetrated largely by GrOPers.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)Certainly most of the recent petty acts have been by individual Republicans, or Republican operatives.
Beyond that, demonstrating the falsity of the charges opens naturally into why and how they were concocted, and by whom and to what end. We actually do know all that, but details are always fascinating....
bringthePaine
(1,732 posts)PSPS
(13,614 posts)I too would like an investigation into what was the motivation behind the allegations. The poll's wording and methodology is a mess and doesn't reflect the distinction between someone who questions the election and someone who questions the nefarious actions taken to undermine confidence.
TheRealNorth
(9,500 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Smells like a big steaming mound of horseshit to me.
Who the fuck did they poll to get these questionable results?
twodogsbarking
(9,806 posts)I want both investigated.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Or are you saying you want election fraud investigated. In that category, I include voter suppression.
twodogsbarking
(9,806 posts)and we don't know to whom.
ace3csusm
(969 posts)....
truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)Diminishing it leads nowhere.
robbob
(3,538 posts)in order to show, once and for all, that there is NO significant voter fraud in America. Also to show how states are using this lie to increase voter suppression, directed mainly at minorities and other groups who probably wont vote GOP.
Maybe others who were polled are thinking along the same lines?
MissMillie
(38,579 posts)costing MILLIONS
(including one immediately following the 2016 election, commissioned by Donald Trump, at the cost of around $7 million)
robbob
(3,538 posts)I guess what I was getting at was that a random poll question like that cannot determine the thought process of the respondents. A simple question like do you believe there was significant and systematic voter fraud in the 2020 election would undoubtedly produce a much different result. Instead, we are left to speculate as to WHY people would answer the way they did.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)And like you inferred, just make sure you also include ALL fraud, including election fraud.
If they really want millions of their tax dollars spent on some government inquiry. Waste of money but if it accomplishes what you stated, then its worth it. Of course it would have to be a bi-partisan inquiry to be taken even remotely seriously by the brainwashed R base. So good luck with that. They wouldn't be satisfied unless the Republicans appointed on that panel were die hard Trump Big Lie supporters, and were calling the inquiry a sham before it even got off the ground.
Maybe involve Bush. Or some more moderate Republican that at least a majority if R's still respect in some way. And some Democrat who is not utterly despised by the right. Hard to find one I know. Maybe Manchin. Give him something important to do to feed his ego, and as an exchange for helping his party out with the filibuster and min wage etc..
I wouldn't mind, even after spending all that time and money, to hear the big conclusion announcement....How they only found .02 % actual voter fraud. ......but they did find some disturbing actions by Republican governors to disenfranchise voters in fraudulent ways.
Fla Dem
(23,741 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It's just not credible, unless they manipulated the questions so some/most would think the pollster is asking whether they want voter suppression and other election fraud tactics investigated.
torius
(1,652 posts)as Joy Reid called them. The Qs, the Oath Keepers, the anti-maskers. They live in their own unreality by choice, no point trying to get through to them. It's not the same as it being 1/3 of rational Americans. It's like asking a question about whether everything in the Bible is literally true. A fair amount of people will probably say yes.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)This is a very cherry picked interpretation of a view of a poll.
CaptainTruth
(6,601 posts)We know there was no voter fraud, so fine, let there be an inquiry that reviews all the evidence & concludes "Nope, it didn't happen, it's all a big lie."
That would help us make our case against the 250+ voting rights restrictions that Republicans are pushing in various states. Republicans are pushing all those voting restrictions because they claim there was fraud. If an independent inquiry finds there was no fraud... well then you don't really need any of those restrictions, do you?
iluvtennis
(19,871 posts)TygrBright
(20,763 posts)...including the number of eligible potential voters who were prevented from voting, and how.
As well as a thorough compendium of all the information on any potentially invalid votes that may have been counted and/or any actually invalid votes that were removed from counts.
It would be very illuminating.
First we'd have to agree on a definition of "independent" though.
Could be expensive, even if we did. Let's take the money from corporate welfare programs and high-bracket tax deductions.
helpfully,
Bright
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)Otherwise, it's just another excuse for the Russia/GOP/Trump cabal to use to futher shut down democracy. That's their end goal, isn't it? The Repugs want permanent single-party rule by rich white males, Trump wants to be president-for-life, a title he can hand down to his spawn, and Putin wants to destroy the American experiment in self rule, and thus global efforts to achieve the same. We had the most secure election ever, and yet the Big Lie is being used by all three to sew doubt in the America public's minds. And the media is going along with it, never challenging the sources of Republicans' insane comments about how the insurrection didn't really happen, and why judges are letting the people who took part and have been arrested are being set free to go home to live with their mothers.
If they want an investigation, fine, but only on two conditions: (1) before the investigation begins, every GOP member of Congress acknowledges that Joe Biden is president, and (2) if the investigation shows there was no significacant fraud in the 2020 general election, the state GOP state legislatures will rescend any and all laws for which "to stop election fraud" was put forth as the reason for their existence. Otherwise, STFU. We'll see you in court and at the election box, where we will wipe your asses from the face of the earth, once and for all.
wiggs
(7,817 posts)not minor misbehavior but abuse of power.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Latest elections for McTurtle and Lindsey Graham come to mind.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)just, give me a fucking break. 61 court cases! 50 states certified! fuck you people, fuck you
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)there have already been multiple validations of the election results. There have already been multiple reports showing the Russians interfered, yet MAGATs don't believe that either. Why waste $ trying to educate the willingly ignorant?
They only believe what fits into the narrative they've willingly swallowed.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)Mr. Scorpio
(73,631 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,286 posts)but go through the motions to convince them if you can.