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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,621 posts)
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:12 AM Mar 2021

FCC initiates proceeding to revoke authority of telecom carriers controlled by Communist China

Source: Wireless Estimator

FCC initiates proceeding to revoke authority of telecom carriers controlled by Communist China

In Featured News by Wireless Estimator March 18, 2021

The Federal Communications Commission yesterday took the next step in its efforts to ensure the security of U.S. telecom networks.

After issuing show cause orders last year to three telecom companies with ties to the communist regime in China, the FCC determined that those carriers’ responses failed to address the serious national security threats posed by their continued operation in the U.S.

The action against the telecommunications operators was decided by a 4-0 vote.

By initiating revocation proceedings as a result of this determination, the FCC moves to the final step in a process that could prohibit these carriers from continued operation in the U.S. The three carriers are China Unicom Americas, Pacific Networks, and ComNet.

“These companies are indirectly owned and controlled by the Chinese government,” Acting Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel said at the meeting. “There is strong reason to believe that they will have to comply with requests from the Chinese government and advance its goals and policies.”

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Read more: https://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2021/fcc-initiates-proceeding-to-revoke-authority-of-telecom-carriers-controlled-by-communist-china/

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zaj

(3,433 posts)
1. "Communist China"??
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 10:42 AM
Mar 2021

First, that's a GOP talking point awkwardly jammed right into the headline.

China is all-in on corrupt capitalism. You don't have billionaire company owners like Jack Ma and Alibaba under capitalism.

Like Russia, China is still an authoritarian, but it's no longer communist.

Martin68

(22,892 posts)
3. ZAJ, I agree that there is no need to include the word "communist" in a headline about China, but
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 05:35 PM
Mar 2021

I would like to remind you that the Communist Party still runs China. Technically, that makes China communist nation. The only reason to use the adjective "communist" would be to distinguish China from Taiwan, which should not be necessary. We also used to use the term "mainland" China.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
4. Got it, but...
Thu Mar 18, 2021, 09:58 PM
Mar 2021

... no matter the name of political party, they are no longer running communism as an economic model. It's also not capitalism.

Communism was both an economic model (fairness), and a political model (control). Like Russia, Turkey, Hungary, and increasingly, the GOP here in the US, they are a corrupt, 1 party, authoritarian dictatorship.

They some level of socialism with an enormous amount of corrupted capitalism for the elite.

Martin68

(22,892 posts)
7. Considering the fact that there are no two communist governments that are the same, I think we can
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:08 AM
Mar 2021

agree that if an entity that calls itself the "Communist Party" is in charge of the state, it can be considered a self-identified communist country, whether or not Marx and Egels would agree.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
10. This matters more than you might assume...
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:20 PM
Mar 2021

You seem to be saying that because they use the world "communist" in the name of their political party, that they are "communist". I'm just pointing out that using a legacy term doesn't make it so. Communism isn't just a brand, it's an economic policy. One that is failed in practice, and leads to authoritarianism.

I'm pushing this discussion forward because it matters more than you might assume.

1) The GOP loves to perpetuate "communism" as a boogieman and a political cudgel. But it is a failed ideology, and outside of a few small nations, it's not really practiced anymore.

2) There is NO DIFFERENCE WHAT SO EVER between China and Russia, but they are the same thing. Running a murderous dictatorship within a capitalist world. Under Putin, Russia is a white-nationalist dictatorship. This is what the GOP is trying to import here to the US.

3) By defining Russia as Good and China as Bad, they are trafficing in racisal sterotoypes when there IS NO DIFFERENCE. The more we perpetuate their narrative, the more power they have to get the media to perpetuate the lie that Asian's are bad, and white people good.

But we can't even see this racist shell game unless we understand that China isn't communist any more. And Russia isn't democratic anymore. They have merged into pseduo-capitalist dictatorships.


And we need to be able to stop re-enforcing the GOP's underlying white-supremacist, authoritarian agenda.

Martin68

(22,892 posts)
11. I'm afraid I'll have to disagree - China and Russia are very different in many significant ways.
Fri Mar 19, 2021, 05:54 PM
Mar 2021

Yes, they are both authoritarian dictatorships that have enabled their upper class to become unimaginably wealthy. They both dabble in capitalism, but with very powerful controls from the leadership. It does look like China is becoming more like Russia as one man continues consolidate power at the top.

Perhaps the difference in our viewpoints resides mainly in your emphasis on what the GOP thinks. I don't care what they think because it is so far divorced from reality it is meaningless. I think both Russia and China are dangerous, but China far more so than Russia. China has huge resources, and tentacles in countries all over the world where essential raw materials are mined and harvested. Russia is surrounded by our allies and military bases, while China has the South China Sea and the Pacific Ocean at its doorstep. China has an enormous economy while Russia is highly dependent on the sale of fossil fuels.

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