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ruet

(10,039 posts)
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:31 PM Mar 2021

Parler: We warned the FBI more than 50 times before the Capitol riot

Source: Ars Technica

Parler "has acted to remove incitement and threats of violence from its platform and did so numerous times in the days before the unlawful rioting at the Capitol," the letter explains. It goes on:

As Parler grew substantially in the latter half of 2020, the company took the extraordinary initiative to develop formal lines of communication with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to facilitate proactive cooperation and referrals of violent threats and incitement to law enforcement. In fact, in the days and weeks leading up to January 6th, Parler referred violent content from its platform to the FBI for investigation over 50 times, and Parler even alerted law enforcement to specific threats of violence being planned at the Capitol.

"Today," Parler adds, it "continues to work closely with law enforcement, and the company has also implemented enhanced processes and procedures with the assistance of artificial intelligence, computerized filters, and manual reviews to better screen and remove incitement from the platform."

Read more: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/parler-we-warned-the-fbi-more-than-50-times-before-the-capitol-riot/

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Parler: We warned the FBI more than 50 times before the Capitol riot (Original Post) ruet Mar 2021 OP
Ha! Piss off their subscribers or face prosecution for aiding and abetting insurrection. ZZenith Mar 2021 #1
Everyone is talking about how the Parler posters are outraged but no one seems to be Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #2
And nothing was ever going to be done with it while Mango Mussolini ShazzieB Mar 2021 #14
nothing would have happened taxi Mar 2021 #24
They could kill five people in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue and nothing happens. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #32
It was reported that the FBI warned the Capitol Police. Kaleva Mar 2021 #26
And Trump's people at the FBI did what with that info? IronLionZion Mar 2021 #3
They reportedly warned the Capitol Police who apparently did not much with it Kaleva Mar 2021 #27
Congress must move forward with the 1/6 Commission. sop Mar 2021 #4
+1 TheRealNorth Mar 2021 #13
Congress will do this as badly as Iran Contra or 9/11. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #33
They're kind of pissing on their own brand here. Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #5
So who at the FBI received this information and did nothing? Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #6
It was reported by many times the FBI warned the Capitol Police. Kaleva Mar 2021 #28
1/6 Commission. This is criminal and we almost lost our country to a vile traitor. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #7
And, there it is. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #8
Did Reb Mercer have a way to stop the comms between parler and the FBI? erronis Mar 2021 #9
Yeah I would think the death threats being posted daily on Parler would be considred a liability! Initech Mar 2021 #10
Parler claims to be ethical and concerned? Really? Pobeka Mar 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Mar 2021 #12
Turn the spotlights on full blast,... RE: 1/6/2021. magicarpet Mar 2021 #15
There is no tarp big enough to cover Parler's ass with this weak CYA Politicub Mar 2021 #16
Warning the FBI while letting treasonous info stand is meaningless. nt live love laugh Mar 2021 #17
The statement says they took down incitement and threats, numerous times, speak easy Mar 2021 #18
Confirmation should also determine the timeline between warnings and takedowns. live love laugh Mar 2021 #19
To be honest, it would be difficult to convince me, speak easy Mar 2021 #20
We agree. live love laugh Mar 2021 #22
Kinda runs against their marketing demographic, don't it? marble falls Mar 2021 #21
Someone needs to do a FOIA request to the FBI for all communcations from Parler related to this. Liberty Belle Mar 2021 #23
I think we need to pull their license just as with FOX news, Newsmax and OANN. Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #25
What license? mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2021 #29
Evidently my metaphor was too subtle. Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #34
Sure, they knew... Maxheader Mar 2021 #30
They were warned by German and French Intelligence too, over a period of time and just before. Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #35
The FBI has never been the most efficient of law enforcement organizations Steelrolled Mar 2021 #31

ZZenith

(4,125 posts)
1. Ha! Piss off their subscribers or face prosecution for aiding and abetting insurrection.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:39 PM
Mar 2021

Couldn’t happen to nicer people.

Scrivener7

(50,992 posts)
2. Everyone is talking about how the Parler posters are outraged but no one seems to be
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:39 PM
Mar 2021

saying anything about the fact that the FBI did NOTHING with the information!

ShazzieB

(16,476 posts)
14. And nothing was ever going to be done with it while Mango Mussolini
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 06:14 PM
Mar 2021

was still in power.

Parler execs could have stood in the middle of the National Mall and screamed through a bullhorn, and nothing would have happened as long as Chump was controlling everything.

taxi

(1,896 posts)
24. nothing would have happened
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:52 PM
Mar 2021

1990 was when the setup was made that determined a basic direction of how internet traffic is administered. So we know that's there's no such thing as secret chats and hidden messages that don't flag. So the execs had a tough choice - go out in the cold, or get paid to sit here and watch all the crazies. My guess is they sat inside.

Kaleva

(36,327 posts)
26. It was reported that the FBI warned the Capitol Police.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:01 AM
Mar 2021

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the New York Police Department warned the U.S. Capitol Police about the possibility of violent riots ahead of the Jan. 6 seizure of Capitol Hill, according to senior law enforcement officials."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-capitol-police-knew-about-potential-for-violence-according-to-the-fbi/ar-BB1cD8JR

IronLionZion

(45,508 posts)
3. And Trump's people at the FBI did what with that info?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:42 PM
Mar 2021

There could be some charges for the decision makers involved

sop

(10,229 posts)
4. Congress must move forward with the 1/6 Commission.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:45 PM
Mar 2021

All this crap needs to be fully investigated and made public.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. Congress will do this as badly as Iran Contra or 9/11.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:02 AM
Mar 2021

Clean up DOJ, including FBI, and handle this as a criminal matter.

Lonestarblue

(10,049 posts)
6. So who at the FBI received this information and did nothing?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 04:53 PM
Mar 2021

It’s now the FBI investigating the FBI. I hope AG Garland unmasks the person or persons who did not react to information about a planned attack. And where was Director Wray? Barr could have installed any number of Trump loyalists, though I would think Wray might have prevented that. The warnings from one of the FBI field offices (Virginia?) seem also to have been ignored.

Kaleva

(36,327 posts)
28. It was reported by many times the FBI warned the Capitol Police.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:14 AM
Mar 2021

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the New York Police Department warned the U.S. Capitol Police about the possibility of violent riots ahead of the Jan. 6 seizure of Capitol Hill, according to senior law enforcement officials."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-capitol-police-knew-about-potential-for-violence-according-to-the-fbi/ar-BB1cD8JR

erronis

(15,326 posts)
9. Did Reb Mercer have a way to stop the comms between parler and the FBI?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 05:34 PM
Mar 2021

After all she is the founder/funder of parler and a RWNJ supporter of the magats.

Initech

(100,098 posts)
10. Yeah I would think the death threats being posted daily on Parler would be considred a liability!
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 05:58 PM
Mar 2021

Especially if they were carried out.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
11. Parler claims to be ethical and concerned? Really?
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 06:02 PM
Mar 2021

Call me unconvinced until I see better proof than Parler declaring how good they are.

Sounds more like history revisionism to me.

Response to ruet (Original post)

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
15. Turn the spotlights on full blast,... RE: 1/6/2021.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 06:30 PM
Mar 2021

There must be consequences and repercussions for this or these Nazis will pull this shit again,... but on a much larger scale.

We can not let this slide,... and then ignore it.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
16. There is no tarp big enough to cover Parler's ass with this weak CYA
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 06:32 PM
Mar 2021

attempt.

I don’t think the people who run Parler are reliable sources, so this is just noise.

speak easy

(9,292 posts)
18. The statement says they took down incitement and threats, numerous times,
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 08:54 PM
Mar 2021

"in the days before the unlawful rioting at the Capitol". THE NSA would be able to confirm or refute this.

live love laugh

(13,124 posts)
19. Confirmation should also determine the timeline between warnings and takedowns.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:02 PM
Mar 2021

If they were diligent but unable to stem the tide of threats then they should still be liable. They had total control over their site.

speak easy

(9,292 posts)
20. To be honest, it would be difficult to convince me,
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 09:08 PM
Mar 2021

that they made every effort to keep that stuff off their feeds. The NSA caches social media, so 'the truth is out there'.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
23. Someone needs to do a FOIA request to the FBI for all communcations from Parler related to this.
Mon Mar 29, 2021, 10:23 PM
Mar 2021

While they may withhold some of redact, even heavily redacted documents would show in Parler is telling the truth -- and if so, serious questions need to be raised in a thorough investigation.

And if Parler lied and there are no responsive records, that would come out, too.

Ford_Prefect

(7,917 posts)
25. I think we need to pull their license just as with FOX news, Newsmax and OANN.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:19 AM
Mar 2021

They constitute a reckless and dangerous component of mass hysteria. There is no 1st amendment protection for falsely yelling "fire!"

Shut them all down as a danger to public health. Mercer paid for Parler to house the maniacs and as a pipeline for RW propaganda rumors and lies. Murdoc and his imitators built FOX and the others to broadcast propaganda, not news. They said as much in their onw words: FOX is not a news source despite the name.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,575 posts)
29. What license?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:44 AM
Mar 2021

What authority or regulatory agency "licenses" Parler?

What authority or regulatory agency "licenses" FOX News, Newsmax, and OANN?

Take your time.

Thanks.

Ford_Prefect

(7,917 posts)
34. Evidently my metaphor was too subtle.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:19 AM
Mar 2021

My point derives form the idea that when someone is a danger to the general public either through intoxication or poor judgement a judge might remove their driver's license so they may not, at least temporarily, engender more harm. Without reference to a specific act of regulation I proposed a similar restraint on their activities.

My intention is they should be forced off the air so to speak for the reasons I stated. I suppose the DOJ could pursue the line that they are distributing Russian propaganda.

Fox, Newsmax and OANN all operate in part under the FCC so I suppose there could be something done there. Parler most likely holds a license to do business in the US of some kind, or their ISP does. Appropriate investigations should be made. I propose that real evidence exists, not mere supposition, that Mercer intended to provide a medium for housing, growing and provoking the Q believers. Fox and the others spew propaganda 24-7 not merely interpretations but fabrications some of which have been sourced from Russia.

I am not interested in bogus arguments about free speech. They do not apply in this case. These are all institutions with a burden of public trust they have violated. The public should answer back IMO.



Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
30. Sure, they knew...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:01 AM
Mar 2021

Like our secret services were warned by the Israelis,

two weeks prior to 9 -11. Pretty sure that's documented.

All I'm saying is over the years, there's been a lot of

denial about what was known and when...pearl harbor?.....

Ford_Prefect

(7,917 posts)
35. They were warned by German and French Intelligence too, over a period of time and just before.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:32 AM
Mar 2021

Several agencies including DIA received information and yet did nothing by all appearances. One proposed reason was that they were being told to stand down by some of the Neo-cons in charge at the time. I do not hold with the idea they were all incompetent institutions.

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