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brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:47 AM Apr 2021

Brooklyn Center fires city manager, gives mayor control of the police department

Source: Washington Post

In the span of just a couple of hours Monday evening, a Minneapolis suburb appears to have fundamentally refashioned its leadership after a local police officer shot and killed an unarmed Black man during a traffic stop the day before.

Brooklyn Center, Minn., which erupted in protest Sunday as word of 20-year-old Daunte Wright’s death spread, now has a new city manager and — at least temporarily — a new de facto leader of the police department after a city council vote that granted the mayor “command authority” over the agency.

The overhaul is likely to give Mayor Mike Elliott the power to fire the police chief and police officers, one legal expert told The Washington Post.

“At such a tough time, this will streamline things and establish a chain of command and leadership,” Elliott wrote after the motion passed by a 3-to-2 vote. Elliott, who by law serves on the council, and two other members voted in the affirmative.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/12/brookly-center-mayor-police-control/
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Brooklyn Center fires city manager, gives mayor control of the police department (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2021 OP
As a nation we need to take control of our police forces. marble falls Apr 2021 #1
We May Hope The Mayor Does The Right Thing, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2021 #2
You got that right Mysterian Apr 2021 #11
+1 -K&R onetexan Apr 2021 #32
Why was he fired? MichMan Apr 2021 #3
Explained in the article and excerpt. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #4
Why wouldn't they just move supervision of the police from him instead of firing completely? MichMan Apr 2021 #8
Oh, it absolutely was... Ligyron Apr 2021 #10
Due process is wrong? MichMan Apr 2021 #13
Sure, and I was one of them. Ligyron Apr 2021 #16
Due Process RobinA Apr 2021 #21
Hopefully, this is start of cities recognizing leadership is big reason for many of these tragedies. Hoyt Apr 2021 #5
Good job by that City Council MineralMan Apr 2021 #6
America has a serious police brutality problem dlk Apr 2021 #7
this sounds like a great solution, but NJCher Apr 2021 #9
Excellent. Every cop serving needs to be stressing and obsessing littlemissmartypants Apr 2021 #12
Yes, this is the kind of determined and purposeful action that needs to be taken to start to deal Martin68 Apr 2021 #14
Without being very familiar (or even familiar at all) with the workings of the city and its PD, BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #15
Okay, maybe I am showing some age, but LT Barclay Apr 2021 #17
I can't speak for Brooklyn Center, population of ca. 31,000 BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #18
So basically a hired "Number One". That I can grasp. LT Barclay Apr 2021 #19
That's it! BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #20
How stupid of me, I never noticed it was the same actor LT Barclay Apr 2021 #22
Oh yeah!!! BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #23
Well that just makes the whole thing better. LT Barclay Apr 2021 #24
He did appear in a bunch of Voyager eps BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #25
Thanks, I did see them, but it has been a while. LT Barclay Apr 2021 #26
I did manage to go to a Creation Con almost 20 years ago BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #27
I hadn't read any of Picardo's. LT Barclay Apr 2021 #28
I don't have a twitter account either BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #29
What a awesome group. Makes me more proud to be a big fan of the show. LT Barclay Apr 2021 #30
I did finally see that last year and it was a riot. BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #31

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
2. We May Hope The Mayor Does The Right Thing, Sir
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:54 AM
Apr 2021

When a police headquarters flies the 'thin blue line' rag after one of their own has executed someone over a misdemeanor warrant during a pretextual traffic stop, wholesale firings are required, as is reopening investigation into any complaints of police brutality dismissed by that department.

Mysterian

(4,588 posts)
11. You got that right
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:29 AM
Apr 2021

I thought the same thing when I saw they put that flag up. Just a symbol, but a symbol of something very wrong with that police department.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
4. Explained in the article and excerpt.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:41 AM
Apr 2021

“At such a tough time, this will streamline things and establish a chain of command and leadership,” Elliott wrote after the motion passed by a 3-to-2 vote. Elliott, who by law serves on the council, and two other members voted in the affirmative.

MichMan

(11,939 posts)
8. Why wouldn't they just move supervision of the police from him instead of firing completely?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:51 AM
Apr 2021

It seems like it was a reaction to him saying the cop deserved due process as it occurred right after that statement

Ligyron

(7,635 posts)
10. Oh, it absolutely was...
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:14 AM
Apr 2021

Apparently some mindsets only understand and respond properly to tough, decisive action with no excuse. That's going to send them one serious message and I hope they respond to it so that few have to lose their profession and benefits.

I tend to think of the children myself.

MichMan

(11,939 posts)
13. Due process is wrong?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:47 AM
Apr 2021

Everyone here was demanding it for Gov Cuomo and lamenting it wasn't given to Sen. Franken.

Ligyron

(7,635 posts)
16. Sure, and I was one of them.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:12 PM
Apr 2021

But our party's appetite for self immolation is a bit hard to take anymore.

Besides, people are being murdered on the sides of our roads and highways for the flimsiest of excuse and this just cannot be tolerated as oh well, that's just the way it is.

Swift and decisive action is needed to the point no law enforcement officer charged with the public's safety would dare continue in this practice.

and while the wife may well have signed on for this lifestyle, the children certainly did not and again ... I think of them.

Thank you for your observation which is well taken.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Hopefully, this is start of cities recognizing leadership is big reason for many of these tragedies.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:46 AM
Apr 2021

Unneeded traffic stops and the like, poor police selection and training, etc., are the responsibility of the local government.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Good job by that City Council
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:56 AM
Apr 2021

Expect to see the cop who shot the man fired, along with the Police Chief.

dlk

(11,569 posts)
7. America has a serious police brutality problem
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:48 AM
Apr 2021

Firing bad cops only addresses part of this endemic issue, and that’s after the damage has been done.

NJCher

(35,688 posts)
9. this sounds like a great solution, but
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:00 AM
Apr 2021

I'm not sure it can be duplicated.

snip

Brooklyn Center is what’s known as a charter city, giving it “incredibly broad authority to act,” said David Schultz, a Minnesota legal scholar and expert on state and local law.

snip

It seems like the right thing to do in this situation.

littlemissmartypants

(22,695 posts)
12. Excellent. Every cop serving needs to be stressing and obsessing
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:47 AM
Apr 2021

Over the possibility they could be immediately terminated for these f*ck ups.

Enough is enough.

Dammit!

Martin68

(22,822 posts)
14. Yes, this is the kind of determined and purposeful action that needs to be taken to start to deal
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

with police abuse of authority, lack of training, and violation of established policies in cases involving African Americans and other people of color.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
15. Without being very familiar (or even familiar at all) with the workings of the city and its PD,
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 12:05 PM
Apr 2021

it's hard to know how good an idea this is. There is certainly room for the dreaded Unintended Consequences.

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
17. Okay, maybe I am showing some age, but
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 01:48 PM
Apr 2021

when did "city manager" become a thing?
I thought that WAS the mayor's job.

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
18. I can't speak for Brooklyn Center, population of ca. 31,000
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 06:20 PM
Apr 2021

the size of one of the neighborhoods here in Philly, but we have a "City Managing Director" position who is basically the one who oversees and coordinates basically all of the city's departments - https://www.phila.gov/mdo/pages/default.aspx

Managing Director's Office


The Managing Director’s Office (MDO) is the Cabinet-level executive office with oversight of the city’s operating departments. The MDO provides support, assistance, and coordination to build sustainable infrastructure within and across departments, ensuring the efficient delivery of quality services to the public.

The MDO plays a major role in the development and implementation of key policy initiatives; monitors and analyzes the performance and progress of individual departments; and serves as a catalyst to encourage cooperation and collaboration across departments. Additionally, several significant outward-facing public service programs are housed within MDO.

The MDO is organized around five cabinets, each of whom oversees the operating departments relevant to specific program areas.



Community & Culture

The Community & Culture division oversees a number of departments and offices that are focused on quality of life assets that help to make Philadelphia a great place to work and live.

Community Services

The Community Services division oversees a number of outward-facing programs that provide services directly to the public. These offices and programs focus on enhancing quality of life and improving how citizens engage with their communities and their city government.

Health & Human Services

The Health & Human Services division works to ensure the success of Philadelphia’s children, families, and vulnerable adults through the alignment of strategies and programs to combat poverty and buffer its effects.

Public Safety

The Public Safety division is a grouping of departments and independent offices that deal directly with the public safety or criminal justice systems. The cabinet is designed to provide coordination between the Police Department, Fire Department, Prison System, Office of Emergency Management, and Department of Licenses & Inspections. Additionally, the division serves as a liaison to the First Judicial District, District Attorney’s Office, Sheriff, and the Defenders Association.

Transportation & Infrastructure

The Office of Transportation & Infrastructure Systems (oTIS) (link) is charged with driving change throughout the City’s transportation and infrastructure systems by promoting a focus on increased mobility, safety, and sustainability through the implementation of innovative solutions.


So as a "working" example, if we have a big event here in the city like the July 4th "Wawa Welcome America" festival and fireworks (usually a couple day thing), the Managing director coordinates with all the heads of the above divisions (each of whom oversee various departments), who would all need to be involved in the planning, execution, and close-out of that event, as big events like that touch every one of those areas. E.g., type of event (community culture), location of the event and impact (community services), street closures & transit detours (transportation), park usage and cleanup (community culture and transportation, which covers sanitation), inspecting food vendors and making First Aid stations available (health), crowd control (public safety), etc.

There's no way a mayor of a city of almost 1.6 million can do that. I expect even on a smaller scale level like Brooklyn Center, that individual is the direct supervisor to the municipal departments within the city government, save a few that might directly report to the mayor.

Gotta get hooked up to this to get an even more in depth answer -



BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
20. That's it!
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:35 PM
Apr 2021

And that's basically what the "Executive Officer" (Commander Riker) does on a ship.

Dwight Schultz will still be Murdoch to me too...

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
23. Oh yeah!!!
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 03:03 PM
Apr 2021


When I saw him appearing as a recurring character on TNG I was like, WAIT!!!!

(ya gotta know and embrace the details of your (new) account name )

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
24. Well that just makes the whole thing better.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 11:48 PM
Apr 2021

I found a stray dog way back then and named him Murdoch. I wasn't able to keep him though because I renting from my sister. My brother-in-law hated the name.
He was such a great dog, I still feel guilty about taking him to the humane society (it was the only game in town in those days) and don't know if he found a good home. He was still a pup.
I'm working my way through TNG again now, so I'll be paying better attention. I haven't been able to watch "Picard" yet. I wonder if he'll make an appearance there.

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
25. He did appear in a bunch of Voyager eps
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 05:08 AM
Apr 2021

including the one in the 6th season where Star Fleet finally makes contact with the ship thanks to his (unauthorized) experimentation (ST VOY: "Pathfinder" ) -



So if you have never had chance to see any of the 7 Voyager seasons, then add to your list (I don't think he ever appeared in DS9)...

He was also in the 8th Trek film (first "standalone" movie for TNG) "First Contact" -

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
26. Thanks, I did see them, but it has been a while.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:00 AM
Apr 2021

I rewatched DS9, the original series and I'm starting TNG. I'm introducing my kids to TNG because I think its the best. Then I'll start into the movies. I thought First Contact was the best movie and Voyager was probably 2nd favorite series.
Thanks for the clips. I had that look when I was able to walk near Jacques Cousteau, but he did better than I, I couldn't even speak!

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
27. I did manage to go to a Creation Con almost 20 years ago
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:27 AM
Apr 2021

where Shatner and Nimoy were featured (and I got their John Hancocks), but I also got to meet Robert Picardo (who was born and raised here in Philly).

It's great to be a fan of a scifi universe whose actors are aligned with us and don't hold back speaking their minds!




TEXT

Robert Picardo
@RobertPicardo
⁦@Jim_Jordan is a shameless, abrasive, grandstanding phony. And those are his good qualities.
See Dr. Anthony Fauci's heated exchange with Jim Jordan over protests...
Dr. Anthony Fauci, and other health experts, testify before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis. An exchange between Rep. Jim Jordan (R-O...
youtube.com
12:05 AM · Apr 16, 2021





TEXT

Robert Picardo
@RobertPicardo
⁦@RepMattGaetz⁩ ‘s claim that he’s “never paid for sex” may give new meaning to #FormerGuy ‘s penchant for “stiffing the subcontractors” . Try the veal!
The Justice Department is investigating the involvement of Representative Matt Gaetz, above, and Joel Greenberg with multiple women who were recruited online for sex and whether they had sex with a 17-year-old girl.
Indicted Gaetz Associate Is Said to Be Cooperating With Justice Dept.
Joel Greenberg, a former elected official in Florida, has been talking to federal investigators since last year about the conduct of Representative Matt Gaetz and others.
nytimes.com
8:38 PM · Apr 13, 2021


LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
28. I hadn't read any of Picardo's.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:09 PM
Apr 2021

I don't do twitter, but his wit is as sharp as George Takei's.

Shatner and Nimoy is great!

I can only claim Jane Goodall and Jean Michel Cousteau (but I bought his, haven't met him yet).

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
29. I don't have a twitter account either
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:21 PM
Apr 2021

I just go to their twitter webpages to see what they tweeted (I do the same with the major news sites to get the breaking news links). Between Picardo, Brent Spiner, LeVar Burton, and Marina Sirtis - they rip the GOP a new one continually!

(as a sidenote - it looks like twitter is down )

LT Barclay

(2,606 posts)
30. What a awesome group. Makes me more proud to be a big fan of the show.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:45 AM
Apr 2021

I did see a segment on Youtube where Brent Spiner was impersonating Patrick Stewart, and Marina Sirtis should do stand up, she was really funny discussing her costumes on TNG.

BumRushDaShow

(129,127 posts)
31. I did finally see that last year and it was a riot.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:58 AM
Apr 2021


Back in January, Stewart got his shot (at a drive-through mass vaccination site) -




TEXT

Patrick Stewart
@SirPatStew
How do we say thank you to the health workers and scientists for their sacrifice and service? Receive the vaccine as soon as one can to lessen their load and keep wearing a mask to protect fellow citizens. In my 80th year, I am grateful and hopeful for better days ahead.
3:44 PM · Jan 22, 2021
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