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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:12 PM Apr 2021

Indicted Gaetz Associate Is Said to Be Cooperating With Justice Dept

Source: New York Times




A former local official in Florida indicted in the Justice Department investigation that is also focused on Representative Matt Gaetz has been providing investigators with information since last year about an array of topics, including Mr. Gaetz's activities, according to two people briefed on the matter. Joel Greenberg, a onetime county tax collector, disclosed to investigators that he and Mr. Gaetz had encounters with women who were given cash or gifts in exchange for sex, the people said.

The Justice Department is investigating the involvement of the men with multiple women who were recruited online for sex and received cash payments and whether the men had sex with a 17-year-old in violation of sex trafficking statutes, people familiar with the inquiry have said. Mr. Greenberg, who is said to have met the women through websites that connect people who go on dates in exchange for gifts, fine dining, travel and allowances and introduced them to Mr. Gaetz, could provide investigators with firsthand accounts of their activities. Mr. Greenberg began speaking with investigators once he realized that the government had overwhelming evidence against him and that his only path to leniency lay in cooperation, the people said.

He has met several times with investigators to try to establish his trustworthiness, though the range of criminal charges against him -- including fraud -- could undermine his credibility as a witness. Mr. Greenberg faces dozens of other counts including sex trafficking of a minor, stalking a political rival and corruption. He was first indicted in June. The Justice Department inquiry drew national attention in recent weeks when investigators' focus on Mr. Gaetz, a high-profile supporter of President Donald J. Trump who knew Mr. Greenberg through Republican political circles in Florida, came to light. Speculation about Mr. Greenberg's cooperation began mounting last week, after his lawyer and a federal prosecutor both said in court that he was likely to plead guilty in the coming weeks.

"I'm sure Matt Gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today," Fritz Scheller, Mr. Greenberg's lawyer, told reporters afterward. The United States attorney's office for the Middle District of Florida is leading the investigation, which is examining not only whether Mr. Greenberg, Mr. Gaetz and others broke sex trafficking laws but also whether Mr. Gaetz paid for women over the age of 18 to travel with him to places like the Bahamas. A Justice Department spokesman and a lawyer for Mr. Greenberg declined to comment.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/joel-greenberg-matt-gaetz.html



This is an update on what was reported last week - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142725897
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Indicted Gaetz Associate Is Said to Be Cooperating With Justice Dept (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 OP
since last year according to one report.... ;) getagrip_already Apr 2021 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #3
This is like a fellow Floridan - Mark Foley - redux but worse... BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #5
I always loved Bartcop's (RIP) name for Hastert--the sweaty wrestler.. Comfortably_Numb Apr 2021 #12
I certainly miss Bartcop! BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #13
I subscribed to Bartcop radio---he was a hoot. Especially for a former Tulsa car salesman! Comfortably_Numb Apr 2021 #14
The old site is still up (with archived back issues/content) BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #15
Bartcop junkie here! Bo Zarts Apr 2021 #16
Personally, I Cannot Wait COL Mustard Apr 2021 #2
Is that his fiance? getagrip_already Apr 2021 #4
I Hadn't Considered That Angle COL Mustard Apr 2021 #6
Ginger's brother, Palmer, has a net worth of nearly a billion dollars. sop Apr 2021 #10
K&R . stonecutter357 Apr 2021 #7
How the fuck long? Aviation Pro Apr 2021 #8
In a case like this BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #9
That may be true Aviation Pro Apr 2021 #17
Well that is their "default" behavior BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #18
I saw the words "Indicted" and "Gaetz" and my heart skipped a beat... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #11
Pretty much as bad as it Gaetz peppertree Apr 2021 #19

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
1. since last year according to one report.... ;)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:16 PM
Apr 2021

That means he was likely wired when talking/texting his, uhmmm, associates long before this thing came up for air.

Set, game, match. Prosecution.

I love the smell of qop pedophiles coming to justice. They talk the talk, but prison has it's own rules of the walk. They especially don't like pedo's. This won't be a golf course pen for them if that's the charge.

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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
5. This is like a fellow Floridan - Mark Foley - redux but worse...
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:35 PM
Apr 2021
The Page Who Took Down the GOP
Why I leaked the scandalous Mark Foley messages—and what I regret about it.

By ZACK STANTON

November 20, 2015


In the middle of October I was sitting on my couch in Washington and heard a familiar name come up on CNN: Dennis Hastert. “Prosecutors have charged Hastert with lying to the FBI about $3.5 million he agreed to pay to… a former student to keep quiet about allegations of sexual abuse dating back to Hastert's time as a high school teacher.” On October 28, after striking a deal with prosecutors, the former speaker of the House pleaded guilty.

This was nine years after the FBI had barged into my parents’ house, more than a decade after the unsettling things I’d seen on Capitol Hill. It was the final thud of a decline that had reshaped Congress—and in which I’d played a pivotal role that almost nobody except those FBI agents knew.

Hastert’s speakership had ended in both defeat and scandal. In November 2006, after Democrats retook the house, Hastert announced he'd step down from leadership in the next Congress. He didn’t have much choice in the matter. That fall, a story exploded that likely cost Republicans their House and Senate majority: Florida Republican Rep. Mark Foley, it was revealed, had repeatedly made sexual advances to several congressional pages. Hastert, the speaker at the time, had allegedly been told by House colleagues about Foley’s history of messaging teens, and did nothing.

I was a congressional page in 2001 and 2002. During that year, Foley sent sexual instant messages to at least three of my classmates. The messages weren’t flirtatious—though some started that way—but out and out lewd. Two of those recipients continued to receive them well after their time in the page program had elapsed, extending into our college years. Many of us who were pages at the time knew that the conversations had taken place. Some of us even shared copies of the message logs among ourselves. But how the conversations went public, and who gave them to reporters and started the avalanche that ended Foley’s career and dealt a blow to the Republican congressional majority, has never come out. It was me.

More: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/the-page-who-took-down-the-gop-mark-foley-dennis-hastert-213378/

COL Mustard

(5,906 posts)
2. Personally, I Cannot Wait
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:27 PM
Apr 2021

To see the smirk knocked off his face. And some unsolicited advice for Ginger Luckey...GTFO, now!!!

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
4. Is that his fiance?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:35 PM
Apr 2021

If she is a smart little gold digger, she will marry him now and take control of what money he has stashed away. He won't be needing it.

sop

(10,193 posts)
10. Ginger's brother, Palmer, has a net worth of nearly a billion dollars.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:22 PM
Apr 2021

I imagine she can always rely on his millions.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
8. How the fuck long?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:55 PM
Apr 2021

Does it take to arrest a pedophile and sex offender?

Take this motherfucking predator off the streets.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
9. In a case like this
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:01 PM
Apr 2021

(with "interstate commerce" involved - i.e., activity going across state lines that makes the situation eligible for federal charges), I expect they may impanel (or have already impaneled) a federal grand jury to bring about a or several federal indictment(s). After that, they'd have to set the court dates for arraignment and so forth.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
17. That may be true
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:58 PM
Apr 2021

But if Gaetz was just an average Chester the Molester, I wonder if he would be allowed to walk around and spout his bullshit all over Fuck News and influence a jury.

Again, fuck this motherfucker.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
18. Well that is their "default" behavior
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:22 PM
Apr 2021

Even Roger Stone was spouting and spewing and defying a federal Judge's gag order after his indictment, until she threatened to revoke bail and throw his ass in jail... so he finally shut his trap (although obviously was later pardoned). This one has no "pardon" coming (that we are aware of).

And he already has a "prior" so...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. I saw the words "Indicted" and "Gaetz" and my heart skipped a beat...
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 08:39 PM
Apr 2021

... all in due time. All in due time. It won't be long now. These things must be done delicately.

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