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BumRushDaShow

(129,471 posts)
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 03:37 PM Apr 2021

Biden defends pulling troops from Afghanistan: 'It's time to end the forever war'

Last edited Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post




Biden defended his decision to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, arguing that it was never meant to be a multigenerational war, that the United States had achieved its goals of killing Osama bin Laden and dismantling al-Qaeda, and that is was “time to end the forever war.” “I believed that our presence in Afghanistan should be focused on the reason we went in the first place, to ensure Afghanistan would not be used as a base from which to attack our homeland again,” Biden said. “We did that. We accomplished that objective.” “I said along with others, we’d follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell if need be. That’s exactly what we did. And we got him,” Biden added.

Biden noted that he is now the fourth U.S. president to preside over the war in Afghanistan. He said he had spoken to former president George W. Bush, who sent troops to Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks nearly 20 years ago, about his decision to bring all U.S. troops home. He didn’t say how Bush felt about it but said the two leaders shared the same gratitude for the sacrifice of the men and women who served. “He and I have had many disagreements over policy throughout the years,” Biden said of Bush. “We’re absolutely united in our respect and support for the valor, courage and integrity of the women and men in the United States armed forces who served. … We as a nation are forever indebted to them and their families.”

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Biden had called Bush and former president Barack Obama to inform them both about his decision. In a statement, Obama, who ordered the military action that killed bin Laden, said: “After nearly two decades of putting our troops in harm’s way, it is time to recognize that we have accomplished all that we can militarily, and that it’s time to bring our remaining troops home. I support President Biden’s bold leadership in building our nation at home and restoring our standing around the world.”

Biden also noted that he is the first president in 40 years to have had a child serving in a war zone, calling his late son, Beau, his “north star” in making this decision. He spoke directly to critics who believe the United States needs troops on the ground in Afghanistan to maintain its diplomatic relationships in the region. “I know there are many who will loudly insist that diplomacy cannot succeed without a robust U.S. military presence and stand as leverage,” he said. "We gave that argument a decade — it never proved effective, not when we had 98,000 troops in Afghanistan and not when we’re down to a few thousand. Our diplomacy does not hinge on having boots in harm’s way.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/14/joe-biden-live-updates/#link-KL3L5J7DKZD5TKZT4WQR6NW4FE



Now we're official!

I liked his remarks (paraphrased - have to find the actual quote) about the war having gone on now under 4 Presidents and he won't have it continue to a 5th.

ETA - POTUS tweet -




TEXT

President Biden
@POTUS
United States government official
I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan.

I will not pass this responsibility to a fifth.
3:24 PM · Apr 14, 2021


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Biden defends pulling troops from Afghanistan: 'It's time to end the forever war' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 OP
Advance excerpt of President Biden's Speech this afternoon. re: Afghanistan Budi Apr 2021 #1
That's it! Heard the clip on my local news radio station BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #2
That one statement will be quoted in history books of America's Greatest Presidents Budi Apr 2021 #3
And here is what I'd hope to find (tweet with the audio clip) BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #4
Yes. There it is! Budi Apr 2021 #6
and I thought that rump was going to phase this oper. out too, but I may be wrong. It's time SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #5
trump was too GD busy Waging War on Cha Apr 2021 #7
Ain't that the truth Cha!!! BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #9
Got his Treasonous ass Kicked OUT! Cha Apr 2021 #10
And I am as grateful as can be!! BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #11
I agree, Couldn't said it better, Cha! SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #12
This mess has been going on for a millenia BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #8
Trump made an agreement to withdraw by May 1, 2021. former9thward Apr 2021 #15
This should probably have been a mission similar to what took out JI7 Apr 2021 #13
There was a JibJab that got a lot play time on DU about that BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #14
I agree that we need to stop our endless war........but one thing troubles me: CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2021 #16
The Afghans prevailed over the Brits, the Russians and the US. Never should have been there. What Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #17
Thoughts and prayers twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #18
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
1. Advance excerpt of President Biden's Speech this afternoon. re: Afghanistan
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 03:46 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215335884

Jennifer Epstein posted excerpt from Biden's Speech:

Advance excerpt of President Biden's Speech this afternoon. re: Afghanistan

"I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan. Two Republicans. Two Democrats," Biden will say in a speech this afternoon, per advance excerpt. "I will not pass this responsibility to a fifth."

"We cannot continue the cycle of extending or expanding our military presence in Afghanistan hoping to create the ideal conditions for our withdrawal, expecting a different result," Biden will also say.

"We went to Afghanistan because of a horrific attack that happened 20 years ago," Biden will say in his speech this afternoon. "That cannot explain why we should remain there in 2021."

BumRushDaShow

(129,471 posts)
2. That's it! Heard the clip on my local news radio station
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:00 PM
Apr 2021
"I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan. Two Republicans. Two Democrats," (snip) "I will not pass this responsibility to a fifth."
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. That one statement will be quoted in history books of America's Greatest Presidents
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:03 PM
Apr 2021

"I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan. Two Republicans. Two Democrats," (snip) "I will not pass this responsibility to a fifth."

BumRushDaShow

(129,471 posts)
4. And here is what I'd hope to find (tweet with the audio clip)
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:12 PM
Apr 2021



TEXT

President Biden
@POTUS
United States government official
I am now the fourth American president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan.

I will not pass this responsibility to a fifth.
3:24 PM · Apr 14, 2021


SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
5. and I thought that rump was going to phase this oper. out too, but I may be wrong. It's time
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:17 PM
Apr 2021

for the Afghans to step up to the plate, perhaps? Perhaps they want the withdrawal too.

BumRushDaShow

(129,471 posts)
8. This mess has been going on for a millenia
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 04:30 PM
Apr 2021

East Asian, European, and now American attempts to "control" the area.

If anything, not spoken about much in this debate, is their "cash crop" -






Not unlike what is in Columbia (and other South American countries) for their "cash crop" -




JI7

(89,269 posts)
13. This should probably have been a mission similar to what took out
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 05:53 PM
Apr 2021

Bin laden. With a real president we might have been able to take him out earlier. The Bush administration seemed to have lost any interest in actually getting bin laden.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,704 posts)
16. I agree that we need to stop our endless war........but one thing troubles me:
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 07:36 PM
Apr 2021

The Afghan women and children. They will suffer being shoved back into the misogynistic and sexist ways of the Taliban.

I guess we can't avoid that, and it makes me very sad.

Evolve Dammit

(16,763 posts)
17. The Afghans prevailed over the Brits, the Russians and the US. Never should have been there. What
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 07:38 PM
Apr 2021

did we accomplish? 2 trillion dollars and thousands dead and wounded. I doubt the "withdrawal" will last, however. US doesn't seem to be able to actually leave once we are there. The abuses, of women in particular based on centuries old "religious" dogma and whatever perversion thereof is tragic. But there is no easy fix with centuries-old tribal convictions.
We have our own share here as well, rooted in slavery, intolerance and hatred of "others." Mankind seems to have an insatiable lust for power and control of others. So un-religious, no?

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