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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:32 PM Apr 2021

Heavy metal guitarist will be first US Capitol rioter to plead guilty

Source: CNN

By Marshall Cohen
Published 11:23 AM EDT, Fri April 16, 2021

(CNN) — A heavy metal guitarist with ties to the Oath Keepers will plead guilty Friday to two crimes related to the Capitol insurrection, according to court documents, making him the first rioter to plead guilty.

Court documents indicate that Jon Ryan Schaffer, from the heavy metal group Iced Earth, will plead guilty to obstruction of an official proceeding and entering a restricted building with a deadly or dangerous weapon. He brought bear spray into the Capitol.

A hearing is currently underway in Washington, DC, federal court.

This story is breaking and will be updated.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/16/politics/oath-keepers-capitol-guilty-plea-schaffer/index.html



By KYLE CHENEY

04/16/2021 11:47 AM EDT

Updated: 04/16/2021 12:08 PM EDT

Jon Schaffer, a heavy metal guitarist and self-described "lifetime member" of the Oath Keepers, on Friday became the first Capitol rioter to plead guilty to charges based on his participation in the attack and has entered into a cooperation agreement with the government.

The move from Schaffer came at an unannounced proceeding before U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta on Friday morning. During a lengthy plea dialogue with Metha, Schaffer acknowledged that the deal requires him to "cooperate fully with the United States," from sitting for interviews to providing any evidence he has of known crimes. As part of the agreement, the Justice Department has offered to sponsor Schaffer for the witness protection program, Mehta noted.

Schaffer, who was seen on camera deploying chemical spray at officers, pleaded guilty to charges that he obstructed Congress' effort to certify the 2020 election results and that he unlawfully entered a restricted building.

The plea negotiations with prosecutors and Schaffer were inadvertently disclosed earlier this month, when a sealed Justice Department filing was accidentally posted on the public docket. “The government’s ongoing plea negotiations with this defendant are the first and most advanced plea negotiations involving any of the over 300 Capitol Riot defendants,” prosecutors wrote in the April 5 filing.

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Heavy metal guitarist will be first US Capitol rioter to plead guilty (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
That asshole is not indicative of Metal culture. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2021 #1
No, he's not. I move in Metal circles. I know that "There's one in every crowd" applies here. Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #18
I heard Dave Mustaine was pretty right-wing. Aristus Apr 2021 #22
Same here. Dave has always been about Dave. That's how he got booted from Metallica. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #35
100% TalenaGor Apr 2021 #28
+1 Withywindle Apr 2021 #34
There's a prison band he can join. C_U_L8R Apr 2021 #2
If he's going to wit protection, I doubt he does time. 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #32
so, he will tattle on others and get a reduced sentence. riversedge Apr 2021 #3
Yes but that might be fruitful soothsayer Apr 2021 #8
yes. agree. My guess is he will help ID others who were involved. riversedge Apr 2021 #11
Not just "others", but bigger fish. Militia leadership, etc. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #36
I know that the circumstances are different, TexasTowelie Apr 2021 #10
Hmm soothsayer Apr 2021 #12
When Googled, his music bonafides come up, should be Baked Potato Apr 2021 #4
It sucks that this event will give his piece of shit band publicity Gregory Peccary Apr 2021 #6
Not for a snitch that is turning on his fellow thugs redstateblues Apr 2021 #7
It says he's getting witness protection FakeNoose Apr 2021 #26
Doubtful we'll see much of him in the future. He'll be in the Witness Protection Program. PSPS Apr 2021 #9
His band has been hired guns for years. The current line-up already bolted on him. Progressive Jones Apr 2021 #19
Lets not underestimate USA citizens when it comes to giving people a 2nd chance Escurumbele Apr 2021 #25
'he get between 3.5 and 4.5 years in prison, based on how fruitful his cooperation is with riversedge Apr 2021 #5
The Rats Are Starting To Squeal COL Mustard Apr 2021 #13
Such a low attention span. Schaffer displays his grasp of history and literature with his t-shirt: Judi Lynn Apr 2021 #14
Those look like the freaks who give me dirty looks because I'm wearing a mask while walking my dog. C Moon Apr 2021 #20
Holy bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #15
Maybe he can shed some light on the oath keepers relationship Beachnutt Apr 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Apr 2021 #21
Very good point... Escurumbele Apr 2021 #27
Quite likely. paleotn Apr 2021 #30
I hope he gets a least a decade in prison. BlueStater Apr 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #24
The ole flip-o-rino! paleotn Apr 2021 #29
Call me a cynic call me what you will... hibbing Apr 2021 #31
If he's offered witness protection, Its because of fear, Oaf Keepers wilwant to do him harm. 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #33
I really do not understand how he is free, regardless of promise to cooperate msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #37

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
18. No, he's not. I move in Metal circles. I know that "There's one in every crowd" applies here.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 02:44 PM
Apr 2021

That being said, I see a bit of a rightward lean with some in the scene, but I've never come across a
full-on right wing crazy yet.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
34. +1
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 09:01 PM
Apr 2021

I used to like this band but that was a VERY long time ago, before his right-wingnuttitude became widely known.

Some genres of metal do have a fascist/Nazi problem. You have to be really vigilant if you like black metal or folk metal (which I do). There are a number of good blogs devoted to rooting them out and helping people decide who's worth supporting and who to stay away from.

Overall though, metalheads are good people.

TexasTowelie

(112,204 posts)
10. I know that the circumstances are different,
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:00 PM
Apr 2021

but when I was an insurance regulator there was one company that was the first to come forward and settle a compliance issue. That company ended up paying the most severe fine, especially when compared to its competitors. The tactic of being the first to plead to a deal does backfire.

Gregory Peccary

(490 posts)
6. It sucks that this event will give his piece of shit band publicity
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:47 PM
Apr 2021

They will probably get gigs at all the MAGA rallies and boat parades this summer

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
19. His band has been hired guns for years. The current line-up already bolted on him.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 02:57 PM
Apr 2021

With his legal problems, he's going to have a hard time making money.

First, the article mentions going into witness protection.
He won't be able to operate a band like that. He won't be able to assemble a band, and get it ready to tour.
He won't be able to tour. He's in witness protection. He'll be hiding from a known threat.
I'm sure he has a big legal tab right now. I don't know how wealthy he is, but based on my knowledge of "the biz",
and knowing what level his act works at, and for how long, he may be worth single digit millions, at best. That's net worth, not cash.
It takes a lot of money to keep a professional music business alive and profitable. His little stunt is going to bleed him.



Escurumbele

(3,392 posts)
25. Lets not underestimate USA citizens when it comes to giving people a 2nd chance
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:32 PM
Apr 2021

We are really good at that, reason why criminals commit multiple crimes when let out of jail.

His new life, if he gets out, will be to come up as a "born again Christian", that always attracts a lot of the faithful. He will go around giving speeches, and will join a non-Metal band playing inspirational music, and thus become a new idol of sanity.

And...people will pay to see him.

riversedge

(70,231 posts)
5. 'he get between 3.5 and 4.5 years in prison, based on how fruitful his cooperation is with
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:46 PM
Apr 2021

If I understand correctly--he will still get prison--even if very cooperative?? Is this correct?


............One hundred days after the January 6 attack, Schaffer is now the first pro-Trump rioter to plead guilty and admit his crimes. His plea was in the works for at least a few weeks, and recent court filings revealed that he met with federal investigators for several "debrief interviews" last month.

Prosecutors and Schaffer's attorneys agreed to recommend that he get between 3.5 and 4.5 years in prison, based on how fruitful his cooperation is with the government.
The sentencing decision will ultimately be made by federal Judge Amit Mehta, who is overseeing the case.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
13. The Rats Are Starting To Squeal
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:07 PM
Apr 2021

Let them turn on each other. I love it!

Popcorn, anyone? This is gonna be real interesting!!!

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
14. Such a low attention span. Schaffer displays his grasp of history and literature with his t-shirt:
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:25 PM
Apr 2021




Dolt-a-rama.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
20. Those look like the freaks who give me dirty looks because I'm wearing a mask while walking my dog.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 03:05 PM
Apr 2021

They never say anything though. If I was a woman, they would.

bucolic_frolic

(43,167 posts)
15. Holy
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:28 PM
Apr 2021

witness protection program. so these rioters feel under threat from other rioters and insurrectionists. only the very best patriots, surely.

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paleotn

(17,918 posts)
30. Quite likely.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:03 PM
Apr 2021

Telegraphing to others, in and out of custody, that the feds have them dead to rights and they'd best start talking to save themselves very serious jail time. And hope to God they've got good stuff to tell, as a deal is many times dependent on what info they can provide.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
23. I hope he gets a least a decade in prison.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 03:59 PM
Apr 2021

Anything short of ten years for these scum is absolutely unacceptable.

Response to BlueStater (Reply #23)

paleotn

(17,918 posts)
29. The ole flip-o-rino!
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:58 PM
Apr 2021

He's turned states evidence for a lighter sentence. And if 50 months in a fed prison is a lighter sentence, the others may be in store for some serious jail time.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
31. Call me a cynic call me what you will...
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:23 PM
Apr 2021

I think the vast majority of these criminals will not spend one day in jail or prison.


Peace

3Hotdogs

(12,382 posts)
33. If he's offered witness protection, Its because of fear, Oaf Keepers wilwant to do him harm.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 06:08 PM
Apr 2021

That being so, he can't appear in jail. Can't appear on stage.

New town, new identity, new job.. maybe some plastic surgery

msfiddlestix

(7,282 posts)
37. I really do not understand how he is free, regardless of promise to cooperate
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:25 AM
Apr 2021

He is free to perform and drum up funding for his flight from justice and/or potential appeals. Why in hell would any judge or prosecutor accept his word of a promise to fully cooperate?

Unbelievable.

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