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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:50 AM Oct 2012

Issa's Benghazi Document Dump (10/19) Exposes Several Libyans Working With the U.S.

Source: Foreign Policy journal

House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) compromised the identities of several Libyans working with the U.S. government and placed their lives in danger when he released reams of State Department communications Friday, according to Obama administration officials.

Issa posted 166 pages of sensitive but unclassified State Department communications related to Libya on the committee's website afternoon as part of his effort to investigate security failures and expose contradictions in the administration's statements regarding the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi that resulted in the death of Amb. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

"The American people deserve nothing less than a full explanation from this administration about these events, including why the repeated warnings about a worsening security situation appear to have been ignored by this administration. Americans also deserve a complete explanation about your administration's decision to accelerate a normalized presence in Libya at what now appears to be at the cost of endangering American lives," Issa and Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) wrote today in a letter to President Barack Obama.

But Issa didn't bother to redact the names of Libyan civilians and local leaders mentioned in the cables, and just as with the WikiLeaks dump of State Department cables last year, the administration says that Issa has done damage to U.S. efforts to work with those Libyans and exposed them to physical danger from the very groups that had an interest in attacking the U.S. consulate.



Read more: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/19/issa_s_benghazi_document_dump_exposes_several_libyans_working_with_the_us



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Issa's Benghazi Document Dump (10/19) Exposes Several Libyans Working With the U.S. (Original Post) grasswire Oct 2012 OP
Issa should go back Turbineguy Oct 2012 #1
And JB126 Oct 2012 #2
OMG!! He needs to be executed for treason, after a open and fair trial , of course. Ecumenist Oct 2012 #3
no, he needs to rot in Gitmo for 10 years before any trial. olddad56 Oct 2012 #23
Issa just doesn't value their lives or the work they do. He just all about defeating Obama. kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #25
Mr Issa needs to step down struggle4progress Oct 2012 #4
Issa chuckstevens Oct 2012 #5
issa is a big pile of steaming hot sh.. TruthBeTold65 Oct 2012 #6
Issa and his lot should be investigated for treason! nonoxy9 Oct 2012 #7
Yes, Issa is a piece of shit but... Z_California Oct 2012 #8
Issa and all Thugs Liberalynn Oct 2012 #9
Got Treason? maddogesq Oct 2012 #10
When.......With time lsewpershad Oct 2012 #11
Look at a map, Congressman Issa, and you will understand that you should not be so loud JDPriestly Oct 2012 #12
Exactly what Bradley Manning is accused of doing The Second Stone Oct 2012 #13
I assume the law applies to congressmen. grasswire Oct 2012 #15
Goddamn dumbass. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #14
I have no doubt warrprayer Oct 2012 #16
No consulate in Benghazi? Was the ambassador visiting a CIA station instead? mainer Oct 2012 #17
Good find... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2012 #21
Wow, it appears to be true. We have no official consulate in Benghazi! mainer Oct 2012 #18
disturbing on so many levels. sarchasm Oct 2012 #19
Wikileaks offers to let you know before leaking. Issa's much worse. Festivito Oct 2012 #20
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #22
Good for him. harmonicon Oct 2012 #24

JB126

(165 posts)
2. And
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:30 AM
Oct 2012

of course if anything happens to those Libyans that are helping us, the Republicans will turn around and blame Obama.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
3. OMG!! He needs to be executed for treason, after a open and fair trial , of course.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:49 AM
Oct 2012

What the fuck is wrong with these people? They are treasonous..myGod, those poor, wonderful people who are helping us and this sorry son of a bitch does this...

Z_California

(650 posts)
8. Yes, Issa is a piece of shit but...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Why were the documents not classified? Let's not get ahead of ourselves on this one.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
9. Issa and all Thugs
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Oct 2012

are lower than scum. If the Puke Congress keeps cutting the budget for protection of Embassies how do they expect President Obama's administration to provide more?


Are the guards just supposed to volunteer?

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
10. Got Treason?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Oct 2012

This is just beyond the pale. Like 68 and 80 these bastids will risk lives to get their boy elected.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Look at a map, Congressman Issa, and you will understand that you should not be so loud
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:07 PM
Oct 2012

about your "concerns" right now. Where is Libya? What countries are adjacent to it?

And what just happened in Libya a couple of years ago?

Obviously the country is in turmoil. Obviously we have intelligence operations there. And why is the right wing in this country, once again, spouting off secrets it should not reveal.

The right wing Republicans do not have the sensitivity for foreign diplomacy that is required to represent our country. They just don't get it.

Think about people you know. Some, like Benjamin Franklin, have great tact and are sensitive to the feelings of others, understand the nuances of language and can persuade in a gentle way. They know when to be silent and listen, and they know when to speak up and how to cause others listen to them. It's these people, like Benjamin Franklin, who make good diplomats.

Now look at Obama and then at Romney. Which one has the most tact? Which one is sensitive and can easily gauge the feelings of others? Which one best understands the nuances of language? And which one persuades gently, not in a bullying way? Which one knows when to be silent, when to listen? (Think of the last debate, "Go ahead, Governor.&quot Which one knows how to use the pause, the emphasis, the body language and the physical presence to cause others to want to listen? Which of them has a voice you want to listen to?
The person with those qualities will make a good diplomat.

Republicans in general make lousy diplomats. Just in general. They lack the finesse. They lack the (at least outward) humility.

Another reason to pick Democrats like Obama.

Obama was born to be a diplomat. And in fact his mother fulfilled to some extent diplomatic tasks. No wonder Obama is well liked everywhere pretty much in the world.

If you think we face hostility in the world today, just imagine what it would be like if Billy Graham's choice, Mitt Romney, were out there dealing with the Muslim world. Of course, in ten minutes of a diplomatically charged representation, in ten minutes of looking at the stone and hostile faces of people from other countries who disagree with him, George Romney would turn to putty. That's why we need four more years for Obama. Please, please, please.

George Romney would be a disaster in foreign policy. And I say that on the basis of his personality alone. I'm sure he can be charming one on one, but he does not have the makings of a diplomat. He is too heavy-handed, and too used to buying his way around the world. In short, too much like a bully -- or at least he comes across that way. And those of us who have experience with bullies know that deep down they are weak and fearful. Not good qualities in a president.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
13. Exactly what Bradley Manning is accused of doing
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

and the secrecy laws do apply to Congressmembers with security clearance.

Although I am not sure that Bradley Manning is accused of giving up names of assets that might get those assets in trouble or killed. This is also along the lines of what got Cheney's aide Libby indicted.

So does the law to everyone in this country or not? Is there an exception for Republicans? I demand that the DOJ launch an investigation.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
16. I have no doubt
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

that the plutocracy somehow used its influence to propel the events of September 11 2012. Just too convienient to cause an embarrasment for Obama. I can only hope that if this is the case, those responsible will be brought to justice, but after seeing Bushco walk away scott free in spite of a democratic sitting President and congress, I'm not going to hold my breath.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. No consulate in Benghazi? Was the ambassador visiting a CIA station instead?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:47 PM
Oct 2012

This is one of the comments under the foreign policy article:

Don Bacon
"attacking the U.S. consulate"

There is no US consulate in Benghazi, which is why State didn't care about security and why State tried to avoid responsibility. It was a CIA operation with a dozen agents. (Ineffective, of course.) Why should State provide security for CIA? Besides, the Agency likes to keep a low profile.

The US does not have an embassy, a consulate or a diplomatic mission in Benghazi. There are none listed on this State Department list of all the US embassies and consulates in the world.
http://www.usembassy.gov/

On September 12, 2012, SecState Clinton made two statements. She never used the word “consulate.”To describe the place that was attacked in Benghazi she used instead the words ‘U.S. diplomatic post, compound, our buildings and our office.’
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/09/197654.htm
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2012/09/197630.htm

There is (and was) no US consulate in Benghazi. No consul. No consular officials. No commercial officers. No diplomats of any kind. No consulate. It was CIA.

Why was Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi? President Obama said Stevens was in volatile eastern Libya "to establish a new cultural center and modernize a hospital." Sure.

Actually Stevens was playing CIA agent in Benghazi, just like he did a year ago when he organized militants to bring Gaddafi down. Their relationship was different this time. Stevens was in Benghazi arranging for an arms shipment to Turkey. While Stevens was in Benghazi the ship Intisaar´(victory), with 400 tons of cargo which included ´SAM-7 surface-to air anti aircraft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades (RPG`s), sailed from Benghazi to Iskenderun, Hatay province, Turkey, a stone’s throw from Syria.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
18. Wow, it appears to be true. We have no official consulate in Benghazi!
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

All we had there, it appears, was a CIA station. And the State Department does not provide security for the CIA, does it?

http://www.usembassy.gov/

Thank you, Issa, for telling the world about our CIA station.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
24. Good for him.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

I understand that people are upset because this is politically bad for the president - and that's probably why Issa did it - but it was the right thing to do, I think. I don't think we should have secret documents. Our government royally fucked up with Libya and needs to be called out on it.

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