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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:35 PM Apr 2021

'The Supreme Court ruled in favor of scam artists,' FTC chief says after justices gut agency's power

Source: Politico

The Federal Trade Commission can’t force companies that engage in wrongdoing to pay back consumers or give up ill-gotten profit, the Supreme Court held Thursday, dealing a huge blow to the agency that could hamper its antitrust and privacy cases.

The FTC’s authority under a provision known as Section 13(b) is limited to seeking an injunction to stop illegal actions and doesn’t authorize it to seek monetary remedies like restitution, Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the unanimous court.

Section “13(b) as currently written does not grant the Commission authority to obtain equitable monetary relief,” Breyer wrote, noting that the FTC can seek restitution under other provisions of the law. “If the Commission believes that authority too cumbersome or otherwise inadequate, it is, of course, free to ask Congress to grant it further remedial authority.”

Acting FTC Chair Rebecca Kelly Slaughter slammed the ruling, saying it deprived the FTC of its strongest tool to help consumers.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-supreme-court-ruled-in-favor-of-scam-artists-ftc-chief-says-after-justices-gut-agencys-powers/ar-BB1fW9V7?li=BBnb7Kz



Good luck in getting the Repukes in Congress to update the law.
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'The Supreme Court ruled in favor of scam artists,' FTC chief says after justices gut agency's power (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
My daughter answered one of those utility switching spam calls and was chatting with the guy. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #1
When I get a call from an unknown number The Mouth Apr 2021 #9
Wth their phone phreaking capabilities, it would be easy for them to SWAT your call. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #10
I just tell them my socks are dirty. Really dirty. Percy Apr 2021 #11
I answer "Bob Cameltoe" oldsoftie Apr 2021 #12
I've let several callers know my name is Hannibal Lecter. Probatim Apr 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Apr 2021 #17
Mine is usually "Detective Johnson, do you have a case number?" Mr. Evil Apr 2021 #18
Mine is that I charge $300 per call as I am on the federal do not call list and Dustlawyer Apr 2021 #21
Ba Da Bing! Mr. Evil Apr 2021 #24
I gave them a fake account number IronLionZion Apr 2021 #14
Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the unanimous court. elleng Apr 2021 #2
Yes my post says that. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 #3
If it's not in the legislation, then it's not in the legislation NQAS Apr 2021 #4
Right, If it's not in the legislation, then it's not in the legislation. elleng Apr 2021 #5
Well, you gotta listen to a unanimous Court. Class Action attorneys are pleased, surely. bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #6
Neither lawyers nor lawmakers are trained in engineering dickthegrouch Apr 2021 #7
They don't read the Bills. Justice matters. Apr 2021 #8
And it really IS that simple. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #13
OK. Pelosi and Warren, HANDLE IT! nt joetheman Apr 2021 #16
Pack it! paleotn Apr 2021 #19
Don't answer the phone if you don't recognize the number Marthe48 Apr 2021 #20
I tell them I work at Mark Thomas Ford. JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #22
Another good one is ask right away if you can record this phone call. JohnnyRingo Apr 2021 #23
One more reason to kill the filibuster and update the FTC law. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #25
This Law Has Probably Been On The Books For 50 Years Or More DallasNE Apr 2021 #26

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
1. My daughter answered one of those utility switching spam calls and was chatting with the guy.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:41 PM
Apr 2021

.

She said she was living in a small building in the backyard of this couple's home.

The guy, who was from India, asked her if she had the couples social security number and other information.

She asked why she would want that.

The caller said that with that information, she could scam them out of money too.

.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
10. Wth their phone phreaking capabilities, it would be easy for them to SWAT your call.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 03:13 PM
Apr 2021

.

Most of those places record what you say and could send that to Five-O acting as a 'concerned' person.

.

Probatim

(2,542 posts)
15. I've let several callers know my name is Hannibal Lecter.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 04:03 PM
Apr 2021

And that, apparently, eating human livers is against the law in this country - and I'm going to jail for it. I really don't have a need for auto warranties, gas/electric discounts, or my Amazon account updated.

If they persist, I tell them they sound delicious.

I've had multiple return calls from the warranty folks where they ask for Mr. Lecter.

Response to The Mouth (Reply #9)

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
21. Mine is that I charge $300 per call as I am on the federal do not call list and
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 06:25 PM
Apr 2021

you are in violation (click).

IronLionZion

(45,528 posts)
14. I gave them a fake account number
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 03:39 PM
Apr 2021

it had the wrong number of digits. I asked if it's part of the green new deal and if they use wind turbines or solar panels. Dude was getting so irritated. He had no idea where I live or my name.

elleng

(131,107 posts)
2. Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for the unanimous court.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:51 PM
Apr 2021

FTC can seek restitution under other provisions of the law.'

Sounds like this decision is based on statutory interpretation, and being unanimous makes it strong; NEED changes in the statute.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
4. If it's not in the legislation, then it's not in the legislation
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:53 PM
Apr 2021

The lesson there is to make sure that all legislation contains every imaginable scenario and provides penalties, etc. The burden is on Congress to do their jobs. If republicans don't vote for it, that's fine as along as the Democrats hold firm as a bloc.

The reality is that you really can't have unity with a party whose response to everything is no.

So, while we have the majorities, fuck 'em. And, who knows, maybe it will be even better after the midterms.

elleng

(131,107 posts)
5. Right, If it's not in the legislation, then it's not in the legislation.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:56 PM
Apr 2021

The burden is on Congress to do their jobs.

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
7. Neither lawyers nor lawmakers are trained in engineering
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:46 PM
Apr 2021

IMHO they should be.
They can cause just as much damage as a faulty sprocket by not looking at all the possibilities and their consequences. Stop writing 600 page laws that purport to address 10 issues, all badly. Instead write 10 * 60 page laws that each address one issue comprehensively.
They might even be easier to understand and get adopted.

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
8. They don't read the Bills.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:58 PM
Apr 2021

They don't have time to read the Bills. They have to fundraise all day long. Get big money out of politics first.

Marthe48

(17,019 posts)
20. Don't answer the phone if you don't recognize the number
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 06:00 PM
Apr 2021

Don't click on links in email.

Don't give money to r's

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
22. I tell them I work at Mark Thomas Ford.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 06:32 PM
Apr 2021

After I get their name I ask if they've driven a Ford lately. Then they usually go back to the script, but I going back to that new Ford. I tell them it's the end of the month and I have to move these Fiestas out the door. After letting them bait to hook a little longer I ask to discuss that Fiesta again, pointing out that I can put them in a new Ford Fiesta for 29,999, and these cars aren't stripped, they're equipped, so whaddya say "Jason".

If they're sticking around I ask what they drive and ask what I have to do to put them in that new Ford, and they have their choice of colors. "If I agree to Senior Benefits or changing my gas company will they take a test drive". Usually they tell me to suck their dick or just hang up.

Turns out they don't like it when someone sells them something on the phone.

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
23. Another good one is ask right away if you can record this phone call.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 06:40 PM
Apr 2021

Then ask them to spell their name and say the company they work for.
They usually say no or hang up, but if they stay on the line, you can have fun with it. Start getting personal and ask them direct questions about how long they've worked there and where they're located. What phone number are they calling from and what's the weather like there. Do they have a middle name?

Make them feel they're on the witness stand.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
26. This Law Has Probably Been On The Books For 50 Years Or More
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:40 PM
Apr 2021

So what happened that now it is unconstitutional? And this decision was unanimous at that. Looks like more legislating from the bench.

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