U.S. probing two new blood clot cases after J&J's COVID-19 vaccine

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Two new cases of blood clots after administration of Johnson & Johnson's single-dose COVID-19 vaccine are being investigated by federal health officials, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Tuesday.

One case was in a male and the other was in a female, both of whom were below 60 years, according to the agency, taking the total number of confirmed such cases to 17 out of 8 million shots given.

The new cases come after U.S. health regulators on Friday recommended resumption of use of J&J's shot, ending a 10-day pause to investigate its link to extremely rare but potentially deadly blood clots.

The CDC and the Food and Drug Administration said on Friday the risks of experiencing the syndrome involving severe blood clots and low platelets as a result of the vaccine were very low.

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[OneCrazyDiamond]

1. They added a blood clot warning.

The risk is super low, but not 0.

[yaesu]

2. just for comparison

Based on information provided by the Centers for Disease Control, the odds of being struck by a car in the United States is about one in 4,292. The odds of dying as the result of being struck by a car are about one in 47,273. 1 in 470,588 doesn't sound too bad.

[LisaL]

7. But if other two vaccines don't have that risk,

why risk it?

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

3. So many other things are vastly riskier.

I wonder how many people get blood clots to begin with.

[LisaL]

9. The blood clots associated with J&J (and AstraZeneca) are

not your usual blood clots.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. Even so, seven or so in a million honestly feels like

a trivial risk. Trivial. Especially as compared to lots of other things, like being killed in a car accident.

Not to mention, that since the blood clot risk seems to be strongly associated with women under the age of 50, how about not giving that vaccine to women that young?

What a bizarre idea, right?

And honestly, even if the J&J vaccine were to be only given to younger women, the rise of a blood clot somehow seems vanishingly small compared to lots of other things.

[Rebl2]

4. I have

already gotten my vaccine (Pfizer) but if I hadn’t I would not get the J & J at this point. I am already at risk for blood clots so why take a chance. It would be interesting to know if these women were on birth control or hormone replacement therapy.

[torius]

6. No, they weren't on it

at least not the first bunch, except for one. I don't know about the other women they added later--it was about the same amount of women--I think around 7 each group. it has also happened to a couple of men. So it's now about 2 cases per million doses.

[LisaL]

8. I got Moderna.

If I hadn't, I wouldn't get J&J either. When it came out, it was advertised as very safe with fewer side effects than mRNA vaccines.
It doesn't actually appear to be the case in the real world. It has an advantage of being one shot vaccine, but for me that isn't enough of an advantage.

[Warpy]

5. A little more than two per million?

Very little in life is that safe.

[Bearware]

11. They halted the vaccination based on a few people per MILLION who got blood clots!!

Your odds of dying from a car crash are somewhere between 100-1000 times greater than getting blood clots (but not dying) from the vaccine. The odds of dying from COVID-19 by delaying or not getting the vaccine are probably 10,000 times greater than getting blood clots when getting the vaccine. I wonder how many people stopped riding in cars when they heard how dangerous it was.

Because they stopped the vaccinations instead of studying the results and putting out a warning, the action probably should have a substantial body count associated with it because lots of people will delay or not get any vaccine because of all the publicity. Worse, lots of people who intended to get vaccinated may die of COVID-19 because of the people who avoided the J&J shot, got the virus and passed it on to them. Much worse would be the people avoiding the vaccine because of the hysteria, getting the virus that then develops a mutation that can nullify the vaccine for everybody.

Whether intentional or not, the virus doesn't care. Someone should calculate the likely body count and publicly ask the CDC and the FDA if stopping the vaccinations instead of continuing with a warning was worth that many deaths.

[Deminpenn]

12. Docs know how to treat blood clots, but these clots can't be

treated the usual way with blood thinners.

The reason for the pause was more to get the word out and allow time for clinicians to understand the correct treatment for these specific types of clots found in people who got the J&J vaccine than anything else.