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brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
Fri May 21, 2021, 01:32 PM May 2021

Leaked Emails Show Crime App Citizen Is Testing On-Demand Security Force

Source: Vice News

Crime and neighborhood watch app Citizen has ambitions to deploy private security workers to the scene of disturbances at the request of app users, according to leaked internal Citizen documents and Citizen sources.

The plans mark a dramatic expansion of Citizen's purview. It is currently an app where users report "incidents" in their neighborhoods and, based on those reports and police scanner transcriptions, the app sends "real-time safety alerts" to users about crime and other incidents happening near where a user is located. It is essentially a mapping app that allows users to both report and learn about crime (or what users of the app perceive to be crime) in their neighborhood. The introduction of in-person, private security forces drastically alters the service, and potential impact, that Citizen may offer in the future, and provides more context as to why a Citizen-branded vehicle has been spotted driving around Los Angeles. The news comes after Citizen offered a $30,000 bounty against a person it falsely accused of starting a wildfire.

"The broad master plan was to create a privatized secondary emergency response network," one former Citizen employee told Motherboard. Motherboard granted multiple sources anonymity to protect them from retaliation from the company.

"It's been something discussed for a while but I personally never expected it to make it this far," another Citizen source told Motherboard.[/fiv]

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7evbx/citizen-app-private-security-leaked-emails
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Leaked Emails Show Crime App Citizen Is Testing On-Demand Security Force (Original Post) brooklynite May 2021 OP
What could go wrong? soothsayer May 2021 #1
All the risk with no "qualified immunity"? ExciteBike66 May 2021 #2
Well now they've ginned up the fear of every fraidy cat sitting by the "scanner" thinking the ... Hassin Bin Sober May 2021 #3
Lawyers might appreciate the new business bucolic_frolic May 2021 #4
This will add a new dimension to SWATting. DavidDvorkin May 2021 #5
If anything will lead to real armed conflict between Americans, this is it. n/t SpankMe May 2021 #6
I feel like they're testing the limitations of the gig economy... SKKY May 2021 #7
How is this legal? Snackshack May 2021 #8
The privatization of swatting. Marcuse May 2021 #9
Great idea! Every George Zimmerman Arger68 May 2021 #10
A very, very, very bad idea. paleotn May 2021 #11
Well, s'pose you were the poor bastid in Missouri, sitting in his backyard, him and his wife, 3Hotdogs May 2021 #12
Kzitizen Karen Kops uncle ray May 2021 #13
The Vigilante App Captain Zero May 2021 #14

ExciteBike66

(2,358 posts)
2. All the risk with no "qualified immunity"?
Fri May 21, 2021, 01:40 PM
May 2021

Is it security guard pay ($14 an hour to start!) with the added benefit of being sued by EVERYONE you deal with?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
3. Well now they've ginned up the fear of every fraidy cat sitting by the "scanner" thinking the ...
Fri May 21, 2021, 01:49 PM
May 2021

.... BLM/Antifa hordes are coming to get them, they might as well cash in on the fear they helped create.

There are already private security working my neighborhood. I think some blocks got together and hired them.

Also, the nightclub area has private security run by a Chicago cop. He sold the service saying he would only hire off duty cops - turns out some of them aren’t cops. Some are ex cons.

SKKY

(11,813 posts)
7. I feel like they're testing the limitations of the gig economy...
Fri May 21, 2021, 02:54 PM
May 2021

...and yea, I think this just may be it.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
8. How is this legal?
Fri May 21, 2021, 04:25 PM
May 2021

This has so many way it can go wrong and virtually zero that it can go right. This will bring every George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse out of the woodwork thinking they are some sort of "citizens watch patrol" with one finger on the summon the vigilantes app button and the other hand on a gun... i misspoke earlier... this is going to (not can go) be bad if it is allowed to continue.

Arger68

(679 posts)
10. Great idea! Every George Zimmerman
Fri May 21, 2021, 05:22 PM
May 2021

and Kyle Rittenhouse out there will be signing up to be a wannabe cop. What could possibly go wrong??

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
11. A very, very, very bad idea.
Fri May 21, 2021, 07:08 PM
May 2021

Poorly trained OFFICIAL police are bad enough. Joe Blow redneck with his pea shooter? Ummm, no.

3Hotdogs

(12,393 posts)
12. Well, s'pose you were the poor bastid in Missouri, sitting in his backyard, him and his wife,
Fri May 21, 2021, 07:32 PM
May 2021

minding their own business. Then, along came Antifa and B.L.M. marching up his street. He did what any red blooded, Trump lovin' American would do. He and his squeeze pulled out their guns to stand their ground.


So what happens? He gets indicted and has to run for Senate. THAT SUCKS !!!

Now if there had been a civilian posse comitatus like in the Citizens plan, he wouldn't'a been in no trouble.

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