Matt Gaetz Tells Fans to Carry Out 'Armed Rebellion' Against Government if Necessary

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Source: daily beast




May. 28, 2021 5:56AM ET
Reuters/Dustin Chambers

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) appeared next to Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) at a Georgia rally Thursday night, giving MAGA fans the chance to see two of most crazed lawmakers in the land at one terrible event. They lived up to their billing, with Greene putting on a mocking Mexican accent, and Gaetz—having learned precisely zero lessons from the Capitol riot—spouting off about “armed rebellion.” After whining about conservatives being “canceled,” or, in other words, being removed from social media for inciting hate and violence, the congressman moved on to talk about the Second Amendment. “It’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” he said. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary.” Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) tweeted a clip of the speech and said: “This is not speech protected by the First Amendment. This is beyond yelling fire in a theater.”


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I think if an ordinary citizen said this, he-she would be investigated by the FBI!!

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Matt Gaetz said Americans have an 'obligation' to take up arms against Silicon Valley companies, claiming they're trying to cancel conservatives


https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetz-says-american-obligation-take-up-arms-big-tech-2021-5

Tom Porter 3 hours ago
Rep. Matt Gaetz on Thursday. America First

Rep. Matt Gaetz once again attacked tech firms that he says are censoring conservatives.
"We have a Second Amendment in this country, and I think we have an obligation to use it," he said.
His remarks drew condemnation from both Democrats and Republicans.

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[Diamond_Dog]

1. Why is this horrible POS

still walking and talking out in public? Why isn’t he behind bars??

Greene should be expelled!

[FlyingPiggy]

50. exactly what I was thinking! I thought his arrest was "imminent"?

[twodogsbarking]

2. If they don't like it here they can move.

It is a stupid thing to say but I listened to it for four years. Their turn.

[dupagelib]

3. Treason

He's calling for the violent overthrow of the government.

[Moostache]

24. I think its closer to sedition, but that's due to the Constitutional definitions for treason.

Either way, these scumbags are advocating for the use of violence to further a nebulous power grab. Gaetz should be imprisoned soon to await trial and he should be held in custody during the trial as he is clearly a flight risk or likely to incite violence against the state to flee his own charges rather than face trial.

[AngryOldDem]

33. It's sedition.

Treason involves working with a foreign enemy.

Regardless. This is where we’re at, and we seem to be powerless to stop it.

[Missn-Hitch]

43. We are powerless. We don't play by the same rules and that is why we will lose.

Just keeping my musket handy and my powder dry.

Have a good weekend anyway. Cheers!

[mahina]

4. If this isn't enough to kick his ass out of the house what is?

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Mercy. They both need to get the heave ho.

Kevin?

[Blue Owl]

5. I'm shocked Gaetz found time for this event amongst his busy schedule

of sex trafficking minors and cocaine parites

[Chainfire]

6. The title of the thread misrepresents what he actually said

We do not have to use the Right-wing tactic of hyperbole and claiming he said something that he did not in fact say.

I loather Gaetz, and his partner in Crime, Maggot Traitor Greene, but we don't have to enhance and amplify his words to make a splash. We should be better than that.

What he said was that his flawed version of 2A was intended to give the people the power to displace government by force of arms. That is a right-wing talking point and has been for years, It is absurd on it's face, but it does not rise to the level of a "call to arms."

The GGs can be successfully attacked from many angles, we do not need to invent stuff.

[hadEnuf]

15. We all know what he really meant. Why must we always dance around it with the PC stuff?

[reACTIONary]

21. Its click bait. Click bait sucks. NT

[hadEnuf]

30. To clarify, I meant "Politically Correct" stuff

[Chainfire]

39. I have no interest in being politically correct

But I do think that it is very important to be correct. The truth matters.

Give me an uncomfortable truth over a happy lie any day.

[hadEnuf]

49. Buzzwords and dogwhistles are meant to circumvent the truth

and the GOP is effective at it. We have to read between the lines with these types. Their actions are what matter, implied or otherwise.

[Chainfire]

51. And there again, the terms Buzzwords and Dogwhistles, are buzzwords and dogwhistles.

Everyone who likes to think of themselves as progressives know what kind of trash Gaetz is, but we should not be doing the same kinds of things that the Republicans do that we claim to despise. Quote the man, indict him for what he said, but don't misrepresent what he actually said in order to make points. That is more akin to Trumpism than liberalism.

All we need is truth.

[DiamondShark]

53. Here is the transcript of Gatez own words from the Twitter post...

context Second Twitter post

Matt Gaetz: (09:30)
In this fight back, we are not powerless. This is a powerful movement. We are powerful people. As President Trump reminds us, we are the elite now, and so let us use the Constitution to strengthen our argument and our movement. We have a First Amendment right to speak and assemble, and we better use it.

Second Twitter post

The internet’s hall monitors out in Silicon Valley, they think they can suppress us, discourage us. Maybe if you’re just a little less patriotic, maybe if you just conform to their way of thinking a little more, then you’ll be allowed to participate in the digital world. Well, you know what? Silicon Valley can’t cancel this movement, or this rally, or this congressmen. We have a Second Amendment in this country, and I think we have an obligation to use it. The Second Amendment…

First Twitter post

Second Amendment…

Matt Gaetz: (10:40)
This is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about hunting. It’s not about recreation. It’s not about sports. The Second Amendment is about maintaining within the citizenry the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.

context First Twitter post

That’ll be the part that gets me kicked off YouTube, right? Talking about our rights and our freedoms. Have you see who Joe Biden wants to put in as the head of ATF? This is someone who has dedicated their career to depriving law-abiding citizens of their access to rights. Gun control is not going to deter the criminals. And where I come from in North Florida, and where you come from in Georgia, gun control just means we have a steady aim.

I found this on a simple google search, maybe give it a read?
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/matt-gaetz-america-first-rally-speech-transcript-georgia-may-27-second-amendment-paul-ryan

I guess context is in order here. What did Gatez mean in the second video when he said "We have a Second Amendment in this country, and I think we have an obligation to use it." and "The Second Amendment is about maintaining within the citizenry the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary."

Who is Congressman Matt Gaetz talking about when he says "an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary." What Government is he rebelling against?

[Chainfire]

54. There is no need to be obtuse over this for the sake of proving one's liberal credentials.

One of the things that separates Republicans from Democrats is that we are about the truth.

Gaetz's statement is his flawed opinion of[ what the 2A means. It is not a call to rebellion (yet), no matter how much someone may want it to be. That is the point of the statement I made that got so many danders up. I still defend what I said. His language is clear. There is no reason to embellish what Gaetz says, he makes an ignorant ass of himself without our help.

Now with that out of the way....

Gaetz's statement on the reason for 2A is nothing new or original to Gaetz; it has been a talking point for the rightwingnuts for years. His stated reason for the second amendment is deeply flawed. What the right attempts to claim is that 2A is absolute and unquestionable while, at the same time, totally ignoring the first phrase of the amendment. I have argued that point with them for years. The SC could do us all a big favor by defining what "A well regulated militia" meant at the time that the document was written, and put all of those silly arguments to bed. But that would take courage.

The right can not distinguish the difference in an armed rabble and a well regulated militia. It is my opinion that our modern day "well regulated militia" is the National Guard. The gun nuts think that it is every nationalist outlaw gang that is willing to overthrow the government and the Constitution because they get their drawers in a wad over a lost election.

[DiamondShark]

58. Please see #57

I agree with their post.

[DiamondShark]

59. Also see the following opinion from CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/opinions/republican-party-building-political-bomb-ghitis/index.html

[hadEnuf]

57. Pointing out their buzzwords and dogwhistles does not make us like them.

The truth is that we all know what they are driving at. I'm not sure how much more of a precedent they need to show to arrive at this conclusion. They have also proven that they will lie, cheat and steal to obscure and the shift blame on almost anything. Yes, we do have the truth on our side but we are constantly waving the Marquis of Queensbury rules while they are slashing our car tires and kicking us in the groin. We watch what we say like we are under oath in their personal courtrooms while they do and say whatever the hell they want without any consequence.

We are telling the truth when we point out their obvious buzzwords and dogwhistles, but we are so concerned about soiling ourselves by going into the gutter to fight them we are ignoring the fact that these people and their ideals have been basically coming out of the sewers.

[Crowman2009]

7. Cocaine's a helluvah drug!

Wonder if MTG is sharing lines, and I ain't taking about speeches!

[bucolic_frolic]

8. This is a defining incident for DOJ

They either do something about it or they are afraid of defending the State. Incitement to insurrection.

[CrispyQ]

9. I with the media would call the GOP out when they define themselves as conservatives.

They haven't been conservatives for a long, long, long time.

[Backseat Driver]

10. These kinds of statements should not be

constitutionally "protected free speech." Just because one can say this doesn't mean one ever should (incite the willfully ignorant anarchist-leaning nitwits to violence that advocates killing and fear to overturn the best flavor of political philosophy he's ever likely to live under and where taxpayers support his choices in service to the nation and his obsessed personal ambition and greed - can't think of any other reason he'd speak this way but that there's certain kompromat, bribery, quid pro quo involved - it's an open assault on peaceful human-to-human relations, not just in this country, but EVERYWHERE there is totalitarian systems advocating criminal mayhem and murder.

[jaxexpat]

19. His rhetoric leaves draft card burning in the dust.

I remember that being a crime punishable by jail time. Perspective seems to have suffered in the information age.

[reACTIONary]

22. If they were not constitutionally protected...

... who do you think would feel the pain? It wouldn't be the right wing nuts. It would be those of us on the left.

[colsohlibgal]

11. Enjoy Prison Matt

He would have been right at home in Nazi Germany.

We have to understand the severity of the right wing threat to our Democracy.

[Moostache]

26. I'm afraid that too many are willing to "go along to get along" and underestimate it still.

It should have been clear in 2016.
If THAT catastrophe was not enough, the disastrous Trump presidency and heinous henchmen like Steven Miller should have rung the bell loud and clear...
IF THAT was STILL not enough, Trump's gaslighting and pre-election whining about 'rigged' elections should have been a deafening claxon call to arms...

AND STILL NOT ENOUGH? Well, the January 6th riots and insurrectionists invading the Capitol itself and flying a replica of the traitorous battle flag of the Confederacy was unambiguous to all but the willingly blind.

And last night and today, the Republican Senators have once more publicly declared allegiance to a lie and the lying liar that lies about it over the country, democratic republic and the very concept of secular self-determination.

The threat is not hyperbolic or over-wrought, it is under-played and happening in real time.
Blood will soon flow like rivers over this and the nation will be ripped apart to salve one enormous asshole's ego.
(and to assuage the power lust of many wannabe dictators as well)...

This does not end well - and I 100% blame Sinema and Manchin for their duplicitous standing as members of the Democratic Party - when they are actually nothing more than power drunk fools, being used by the GQP to stymie any chance at a legislative agenda, and will be 100% dumped in favor of GQP zealots at the soonest possible time. They are allowing the minority to establish and use the rules that perpetuate eternal minority rule and destroy our democratic traditions. When the whole thing comes crashing down into a bloody war again, I will NEVER relent at reminding them and their defenders of their complicity in bringing this to bear.

They can get in line with Ralph Nader and Susan Sarandon as cautionary tales of misplaced foolish zealotry.

[Aussie105]

12. FBI!!! What say you???

Inciting possible acts of violence is against the law surely?

Even - especially - if it comes from a politician who is supposed to lead people?

Most civilized countries don't have a 'free speech' rule that allows this.
Dangerous! Especially if a large part of your population are lunatics with guns.

[keithbvadu2]

13. Someone should remind him that he is part of the 'government'.

Someone should remind him that he is part of the 'government'.

[Bayard]

14. trump was impeached for this crap

It won't be enough to expel the traitor from Congress because he'll still be out there strutting his stuff. He has to be arrested for insurrection, and inciting rebellion against democracy.

[hadEnuf]

16. And child sex trafficking too.

[Initech]

18. Gaetz and Greene must be expelled. They are inherent dangers.

[Initech]

17. Uh... Secret Service? Where are you?

We have members of Congress literally threatening the US government! It's time to pay them a visit!

[Iggo]

20. Hail Mary.

You’re going to prison, Matt.

[Sneederbunk]

23. Can't roll him up soon enough.

[world wide wally]

25. I would support what he said IF he were elected President.

[gordianot]

27. Armed rebellion?

It will not happen at the Capitol building again where the only opening for a Coup d’état exists. Bring firearms into the Capitol find out what happens. Whatever your plans please enlist Josh Hawley I would love to watch.

[Roc2020]

28. Do these people think the almost

90 million that voted for Biden will not Defend their right to use 2nd amendment remedies as well? let them keep talking

[cayugafalls]

29. I did Nazi see that coming...

Oh, wait, yea...I fucking did.

[Scrivener7]

31. These two assholes manage to dig up 700 supporters - 700!- and squeeze them into a

gymnasium somewhere and spew stupidity at them for an hour and it is a headline on every major news outlet.

That is ridiculous.

PS: The number comes from here:
https://www.courthousenews.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-leans-into-mask-controversy-while-speaking-with-supporters-at-rally/

[snort]

32. Rise of the American Twerp.

[catrose]

34. Gotta lock that guy up. You wouldn't think it would be hard.

[AngryOldDem]

35. Another selective (and incorrect) reading of the Second Amendment.

Quelle surprise. It’s not worth the time nor the energy to correct these seditious, violent assholes.

God, I wish it could be repealed.

[jmowreader]

36. Matt, I'm calling bullshit on that one

The Second Amendment is about Thomas Jefferson’s fears of standing armies.

The Bill of Rights is the Framers’ attempt to correct the sins of the British Crown. The First is because you could be jailed or beheaded for saying thing the king didn’t like. The Third is because the Army was known to confiscate people’s homes. All the judicial amendments were to stop a Star Chamber from happening here, the Ninth was to stop cops from inventing new laws by the roadside and the Tenth was to allow the states to make their own laws.

The Second was because Jefferson believed the citizenry were able to defend the country without the help of a professional army. It turned out they couldn’t and we have a professional army now, but the thought was there.

[2naSalit]

37. Arrest him, NOW.

[onetexan]

45. THIS!!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

38. Kinzinger slams Gaetz speech: 'This is why we need a January 6 commission'

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) on Friday slammed Rep. Matt Gaetz's (R-Fla.) rhetoric in response to a speech the Florida congressman gave encouraging Americans to use their Second Amendment rights.

Kinzinger condemned his fellow GOP lawmaker, saying that his comments are "why we need a January 6 commission."

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"Four months after an insurrection at the Capitol, we're hearing this language at another rally where so-called 'leaders' are stoking fears & anger and inciting violence," the Illinois congressman tweeted in response to a clip of Gaetz's speech at a Georgia stop on his "America First Tour."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kinzinger-slams-gaetz-speech-this-is-why-we-need-a-january-6-commission/ar-AAKuvma

[C Moon]

40. Anarchy is all these criminals have to keep out of prison.

[Evolve Dammit]

41. Gaetz/Greene 2024. White makes it all right!

[Oneironaut]

42. The GOP would love it if death squads purged the undesirables in this country.

[Progressive Jones]

44. They took their little Hog and Sow act on the road to rile up the trash. nt

[IcyPeas]

46. how much do people pay to get in to this rally?

[CousinIT]

47. Didn't he just commit a FELONY?

Report him to the FBI. Get the video and include it.

https://tips.fbi.gov/

[Progressive Jones]

48. Yes he did. nt

[llashram]

52. to be able to continue

to call for treason and armed rebellion is, in my opinion, one of the most perfect examples of white privilege and entitlement in this post trump Insurrection Day of 1/6/21.

[pfitz59]

55. When are these assholes going to jail...

we cannot allow this to go on

[brush]

56. They better hurry up and put this trump wannabe pedophie in jail.

Isn't what he just said about armed rebellions sedition?

[raging moderate]

60. One minor Point: It's Article One, Section EIGHT.

Somebody quoted the US Constitution to refute Matt Gaetz's snide claim that armed overthrow of our government is okay. That person quoted correctly about the Militia being intended to suppress insurrections, but the passage is actually in Article One, Section Eight, NOT Article One, Section Nine. This was otherwise a great statement.