GOP senators block Jan. 6 Commission, likely ending bid for independent probe of Capitol riot
Source: Washington Post
The bipartisan push to independently investigate the Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot suffered a fatal blow Friday, after nearly all Senate Republicans banded together in opposition. The 54 to 35 outcome, which fell six votes shy of the 60 needed to circumvent a procedural filibuster, followed hours of overnight chaos as lawmakers haggled over unrelated legislation. The vote stood as a blunt rejection by Republicans of an emotional last-minute appeal from the family of a Capitol Police officer who died after responding to the insurrection, and an eleventh-hour bid by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) to save the measure by introducing changes intended to address her partys principal objections.
The legislation, a product of cross-party negotiations between leaders of the House Homeland Security Committee, galvanized significant support among Republicans in the lower chamber. Last week, 35 GOP members joined all voting House Democrats to back creation of a Jan. 6 Commission, to be modeled after a similar independent panel formed in the aftermath of 9/11, and charged with producing an objective account of what fueled the days violence.
But in the Senate, Republican sentiment soured after Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) dismissed the commission as needlessly duplicative of ongoing congressional probes, and a Trojan horse that would help Democrats in the next years midterm elections. I do not believe the additional, extraneous commission that Democratic leaders want would uncover crucial new facts or promote healing, McConnell said Thursday, arguing that both the Justice Department and Senate committees were already handling that substantive work. ... Ill continue to urge my colleagues to oppose this extraneous layer when the time comes for the Senate to vote.
Former president Donald Trump, whose most zealous supporters carried out the attack, cast a long shadow over the GOP as lawmakers wrestled with the proposal to establish a 10-person panel of non-government experts charged with finding answers and accountability. The proposal called for five members, including the chair, to be appointed by Democrats and another five, including the vice chair, to be appointed by Republicans. The commission would have had the power to issue subpoenas on a bipartisan basis, which some Democrats warned and many Republicans worried could have been used to force the former president, and his allies in Congress, to testify under oath.
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Marthe48
(16,963 posts)It is like asking criminals if they want to go to court.
I hope that any people who think there is a chance for bipartisanship understand that it is dead. Time to wake up and smell the coffee. GOTV. Get rid of the filibuster. Get rid of the criminals.
Also, time to have a special commission. That would be so pleasant. No criminals handling their own investigation and defense.
PatSeg
(47,475 posts)but I always hold out some hope that maybe more republicans will do the right thing. History will not remember them well and this issue will not go away.
I agree, it is time for a special commission. Too many members of congress appear to be complicit in the crime.
Marthe48
(16,963 posts)like mcconnell, mccarthy, etc, we won't have any bipartisan action. The senators who keep trying need a reality check. r's are the party of no, unless action benefits one of their own, namely trump. If it is best for Americans, best for the country, they will say no every time.
PatSeg
(47,475 posts)they will all do what their leader commands. There is no freedom of thought in the republican party anymore. They move and act as one entity with one mind.
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)...that they claim were the real instigators of the insurrection?
William Seger
(10,778 posts)"Politicize it," Mitch? Damn right, we need to "politicize" it! The Party of Trump must be burned to the ground if our democracy is to survive.
OneCrazyDiamond
(2,032 posts)They should count themselves lucky to even get to stay. Overthrowing the government is as serious as it gets.
ybbor
(1,554 posts)They should put the onus on the minority to have 41 votes against. If that was the case here it would have been approved. Manchin and Sinema need to get on board with their party and pass the rule change.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)The fact that Im not in the least bit surprised at this says it all.
One more slat kicked out of the foundations of democracy today all in deference to an Orange Svengali who is nothing more than a grifting criminal.
Right now I truly dont know what the answer is to this, because you cannot reason with crazy. And that is exactly what the Republican Party is right now Bat. Shit. Crazy.
But hey! Benghazi!
PortTack
(32,771 posts)PatSeg
(47,475 posts)How can we trust republicans to be part of a fair and honest investigation?
KPN
(15,646 posts)essaynnc
(801 posts)Congress appoints a commission, includes a couple of moderate Republicans, and starts the ball rolling anyway with a democratic majority?
I don't understand the Turtle's reasoning on this one. What do they have in mind? please don't tell me that it's an oversight. How are they going to try to sink this new investigation?
- Never admit it's existence on Fox News so no R voters know about it.
- Call it a hoax and let it go.
- Refuse to show up for any subpoenas
- Let it go and keep going with their real intent, voter suppression
- Sue, sue, sue, and tie it up in court to the Supreme, where they get a judgement to cease and desist.
- WHAT??????
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,009 posts)Why are Republicans defending insurrectionists?
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)I think it may be time to donate to them again. Seems like they've sorted themselves out.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Seems very short-sighted to me.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)Turtle has "spoken" and it was going to be DOA, as will just about any other piece of legislation that can't be done by reconciliation or a change in the Cloture Rule.
apnu
(8,756 posts)The Republicans did this with Benghazi which was bullshit. This on is real and it will happen. Pelosi won't stand for that B.S.
Evolve Dammit
(16,736 posts)ass understands the call to the Capitol, the incitement and the violent acts perpetrated. This will go down the memory hole of old news/ fake news if this is not done in public. And Soon.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)will set up a House commission to investigate it.
Botany
(70,508 posts)... to stop the peaceful transfer of power after an election, all their Russian/NRA money, the
gerrymandering, their judicial crisis network to pack the courts, their knowledge that Trump
was a crook but they don't care, their scuttling of 2 impeachment trials in the senate, their
working to keep the C-19 pandemic going, their VOTING MACHINES, Fox News and its Russian
connections, .... Republicans fear the truth.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)And fuck those traitorous, asshole, shit gibbons who blocked the original commission.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)You get full responsibility, all of the blame, and you shot your wad on obstruction. It's a high water mark, but Democrats have to pull, fight, support, and organize together.
Thanks, Mitch! Here's lookin' at you, kid!
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)tonekat
(1,815 posts)From now on, they are the Guilty Quisling Party. No mention of them should go without reminding the public of their treason!
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)will have a commission and still have the investigation.
orleans
(34,053 posts)"our fallback position is that the speaker could, if she wanted to, have a special select committee like the Benghazi select committee, and that committee would have full subpoena power that the Republicans couldn`t even object to. So I really don`t understand why Republicans are even objecting to this commission."
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/ca-rep-ted-lieu-says-it-can-only-get-worse-for-trump-with-a-jan-6-commission-113743429541
ZonkerHarris
(24,228 posts)do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)SwannieK
(33 posts)Not sure why anyone is surprised. After all, our country and democracy being taken over by armed insurrectionists, white supremacists and Putin's thugs is just not that important to the GOP (Groveling Over Putin). But, tomorrow, Linseed Graham is going to present his latest demand for an immediate investigation into the crime of the century...the attempt to gender neutral Mr Potato Head. By gawd, that will get every single Republican Senator's vote...after all, PRIORITIES, doncha know?
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...it was Joe who said January 6 was the greatest attack on our government since the civil war...
...why not shine light on it...how do Republicans know nothing new will come of it...if we don't take it seriously and play politics, they're free to play politics too...
...no, the Republicans don't want the commission because of politics, because the guilty have something to hide...
...this is big, very big...
...we, the American people, deserve to know the truth about who's tried/trying to overthrow our government and why...
...this is so huge, it's more than worth dumping the filibuster over...
...let's find out...
lastlib
(23,238 posts)...today was overrun by craven political cowardice. The two forces are EQUALLY destructive of democracy.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,009 posts)The mother of fallen US Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick says she was disappointed that Senate Republicans blocked a bill Friday to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection after what she described as "tense" meetings with many GOP senators on Thursday.
In an exclusive interview with CNN's Jake Tapper Friday, Gladys Sicknick and her son's girlfriend Sandra Garza said they were clinging to hope that they could change the minds of senators opposed to the independent commission, but were still not surprised at the ultimate outcome.
"They went through their motions, but you can tell that underneath they were being nice to us," Sicknick said of her meetings Thursday.
"I don't understand it. They are elected for us, the people, and they don't care about that," she added. "They care about money, I guess, their pocketbooks. So they'll be in front of the cameras when they feel like it. They just don't care, and it's not right."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-all-talk-and-no-action-sicknicks-mother-and-girlfriend-say-they-were-disappointed-by-gop-senators/ar-AAKuCFe
Snoopy 7
(527 posts)this is the political elite protecting each other don't forget:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/31/obama-justice-department-immunity-bush-cia-torturer