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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Fri May 28, 2021, 03:14 PM May 2021

Bill Cosby refuses sex offender program, so is denied parole

Source: AP

By MARYCLAIRE DALE

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Actor Bill Cosby won’t be paroled this year after refusing to participate in sex offender programs during his nearly three years in state prison in Pennsylvania.

The 83-year-old Cosby has long said he would resist the treatment programs and refuse to acknowledge wrongdoing even if it means serving the full 10-year sentence. This is the first year he was eligible for parole under the three- to 10-year sentence handed down after his 2018 conviction.

Cosby spokesperson Andrew Wyatt called the decision “appalling” and said Cosby “vehemently proclaims his innocence.”

Cosby meanwhile hopes the state Supreme Court, which heard his appeal in December, will reverse his conviction in the first celebrity trial of the #MeToo era. Cosby’s lawyers say the trial was flawed because five other accusers were allowed to testify to support the sexual assault complaint filed by a former Temple University basketball team manager. They also say the judge should not have let the jury hear Cosby’s damaging testimony from accuser Andrea Constand’s related civil suit.


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/pa-state-wire-bill-cosby-entertainment-arts-and-entertainment-1dbde3849fb68ca116fcfa875ca886b7

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Bill Cosby refuses sex offender program, so is denied parole (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2021 OP
Good. Lunabell May 2021 #1
Program for sexual offenders? He's not a sexual offender, ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2021 #2
I'm sure you know this. ShazzieB May 2021 #22
If he did it he belongs in prison and if he is actually innocent then I hope he goes free. cstanleytech May 2021 #3
Their complaints about the trial are technical localroger May 2021 #5
He is not "innocent". Not even close.n/m BradAllison May 2021 #6
Then he is where he belongs. cstanleytech May 2021 #16
If? quakerboy May 2021 #12
Yes, "if". It is actually possible kind of like how its possible I could one day win the powerball. cstanleytech May 2021 #15
That's a moral take, and I agree. If he was innocent. joshcryer May 2021 #29
I largely agree with you though I do question the judge allowing the testimony by the other women as cstanleytech May 2021 #34
it is extremely common evidence Evergreen Emerald May 2021 #40
Talk about being in denial. Well, that just means he will be in denial in prison. patphil May 2021 #4
Arrogant SOB n/m BradAllison May 2021 #7
Gee, maybe they should drug and force him into spooky3 May 2021 #8
fuck 'im... bahboo May 2021 #9
He's gotta be senile. truthisfreedom May 2021 #10
Guess he showed them! Rot in prison you Rapist. Marie Marie May 2021 #11
To think I once admired him. Disgusting serial predator. Evolve Dammit May 2021 #13
"(Cosby) refuse(d) to acknowledge wrongdoing even if it means serving the full 10-year sentence." LudwigPastorius May 2021 #14
Everyone is lying but him. twodogsbarking May 2021 #17
Sounds like someone else we know...... oldsoftie May 2021 #20
Phylicia Rashad does Polybius May 2021 #30
Parole guidelines can be coersive Mosby May 2021 #18
None of that pertains to this case. oldsoftie May 2021 #19
I doubt he'd be granted parole whatever he did in prison janterry May 2021 #25
What if this is Bill Cosby who's been repeated accused and found guilty. He deserves no "what ifs". marble falls May 2021 #27
Witness ID is a big issue when a crime involves people the victim doesn't know Withywindle May 2021 #35
The LBN cites a story on AP dated today. Here's more ... left-of-center2012 May 2021 #21
Hmm... Mike Nelson May 2021 #23
well Bill... myohmy2 May 2021 #24
He has found his forever home. twodogsbarking May 2021 #26
I hope he teaches everybody a lesson and serves the whole ten years. That'll show them. ZonkerHarris May 2021 #28
I'd like to see him have to serve the full ten years no matter what. Pickled_Donut May 2021 #31
Isn't he is a little old for that program? demosincebirth May 2021 #32
how long until that scumbag dies? Takket May 2021 #33
Bill Cosby is a psychopath. But the prison system is still fucked. Buckeyeblue May 2021 #36
I understand your point, but... robbob May 2021 #38
For you and I, yes, not much of a punishment Buckeyeblue May 2021 #39
He's right where he belongs and he needs a cellmate. How about Matt Gaetz? Vinca May 2021 #37

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
22. I'm sure you know this.
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:26 PM
May 2021

But I'll say it anyway: a rapist IS a sexual offender.

"Sexual offender" as used here, is obviously a broad term that takes in a wide range of offenses. Rape is most certainly part of that universe.

If you don't understand why I feel the need to spell this out, that's fine with me. Personally, I don't understand why someone would feel the need to quibble with the idea of a racist being considered a sexual offender. But here we are!

localroger

(3,626 posts)
5. Their complaints about the trial are technical
Fri May 28, 2021, 04:33 PM
May 2021

They aren't seriously arguing that he didn"t do it, but that he wouldn't have been convicted of all that evidence hadn't been allowed.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
29. That's a moral take, and I agree. If he was innocent.
Fri May 28, 2021, 09:41 PM
May 2021

But if you looked into the case, it was pretty open and shut, total serial rapist. His "innocence" stems from his highly immoral view that it was "common practice" to do what he did, but his incidents were so freaking widespread and prolific that it went beyond any sort of "groupie rock'n'roll" type of "free love" stuff you could conceivably moralize. What he did was immoral when he was doing it. Pure predatory serial rapist behavior. He admitted he did what he did. His view was it wasn't "wrong."

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
34. I largely agree with you though I do question the judge allowing the testimony by the other women as
Sat May 29, 2021, 01:29 AM
May 2021

that could very well jeopardize the case and cause it to be thrown out which is probably what he and his lawyers are hoping for.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
40. it is extremely common evidence
Sun May 30, 2021, 09:33 AM
May 2021

It is evidence that is often allowed in at trials to show intent, planning, patterns, etc. The issue is whether it is more probative than prejudicial. If the judge made a good record of his/her reasoning to allow it in, it will likely not be overturned on appeal.

His behavior shows a really sick individual. His societal power allowed him to get away with his ugly scary behavior for decades. It is difficult for him to realize that his power is gone.

LudwigPastorius

(9,150 posts)
14. "(Cosby) refuse(d) to acknowledge wrongdoing even if it means serving the full 10-year sentence."
Fri May 28, 2021, 05:40 PM
May 2021

He just can't give up those pudding pops they serve in the prison dining hall.

Mosby

(16,317 posts)
18. Parole guidelines can be coersive
Fri May 28, 2021, 06:22 PM
May 2021

what if this was an innocent person who has been sitting in prison for a decade or more? In order to get parole consideration, you have to admit and explain your crime. We all know that juries get it wrong sometimes, particularly when the primary evidence is based on witness ID, which brings in a racial aspect to this approach to parole and diversion programs.

oldsoftie

(12,548 posts)
19. None of that pertains to this case.
Fri May 28, 2021, 06:50 PM
May 2021

Its hard to be wrong about saying someone is Bill Cosby. Not to mention his own words

marble falls

(57,097 posts)
27. What if this is Bill Cosby who's been repeated accused and found guilty. He deserves no "what ifs".
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:14 PM
May 2021

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
35. Witness ID is a big issue when a crime involves people the victim doesn't know
Sat May 29, 2021, 02:25 AM
May 2021

It does NOT apply with victims who have been personally introduced to the perp...who is a huge celebrity.

Mike Nelson

(9,956 posts)
23. Hmm...
Fri May 28, 2021, 07:41 PM
May 2021

... there is a "treatment program" for this kind of sex offender? I didn't know... I thought his type of sex problem was not treatable. Also, how do we know when it's successful? Should we let someone out and assume they're 100% "cured" - because I'm not comfortable if one more victim has to go through what the other victims did.

ZonkerHarris

(24,228 posts)
28. I hope he teaches everybody a lesson and serves the whole ten years. That'll show them.
Fri May 28, 2021, 08:17 PM
May 2021

Or maybe he could really win and die behind bars.

Pickled_Donut

(3 posts)
31. I'd like to see him have to serve the full ten years no matter what.
Fri May 28, 2021, 10:00 PM
May 2021

That old bastard had me fooled in the very beginning which pisses me off to no end.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
36. Bill Cosby is a psychopath. But the prison system is still fucked.
Sat May 29, 2021, 06:51 AM
May 2021

First. It's insane that an 83 year old person that has the means to support himself is in a prison. At this point in his life, he is no threat to anyone. He has been turned into a national joke, which for someone like him, is the real punishment. He should be on house arrest paying for his own care.

Parole, itself, is just used as a controlling agent. This carrot is dangled before the person who is incarcerated with the stipulation that they have to submit to every whim of the state for a chance to be released from prison. But even that release will have strange and demeaning conditions attached, which, if not met, will result in the person going back to prison.

But back to Cosby. If he had been convicted of this as a younger person, I would be more inclined to support a prison sentence. But our prison system is used as a crutch so we can avoid dealing with societal problems head on.

Prison should be reserved for the worst of the worst, murders and people who hurt children, extreme violence.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
38. I understand your point, but...
Sat May 29, 2021, 09:10 AM
May 2021

Living in a multi-million dollar mansion, lounging by the pool, every whim catered to by staff, cooks, etc., visitors of all kinds allowed to come and go, including (I would assume) paid escorts to provide for his “special” needs?

That doesn’t seem right to me.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
39. For you and I, yes, not much of a punishment
Sat May 29, 2021, 09:35 AM
May 2021

But for him, it is the gateway to hell. Plus, for people like Bill Cosby, I think there should be severe financial consequences.

Just because I don't like the concept of prison, doesn't mean I don't think people should not be held accountable. For Bill Cosby, severe financial penalties, along with strict house arrest, while he watches his legacy go down the toilet, seems like an apt punishment.

After the penalties, maybe he still has the mansion, maybe he doesn't.

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