Biden Justice Department defends Trump in suit over rape denial
Source: Politico
The brief filed on Monday night with a federal appeals court is an illustration of how administrations of sharply different political outlooks often flock to the same legal positions in court, even if it means seeming to excuse or immunize alleged bad conduct by their predecessors.
In the filing with the New York-based 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, the Justice Department insisted that it was not endorsing Trumps conduct toward the writer, E. Jean Carroll, even as it argued that a law governing suits against federal officials justified the governments move to take over the former presidents defense in the case.
In making and defending a Westfall Act certification the Department of Justice is not endorsing the allegedly tortious conduct or representing that it actually furthered the interests of the United States. Nor is a reviewing court making any such determinations in upholding the Departments certification, the acting head of the Justice Departments Civil Division, Brian Boynton, wrote in the new submission.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/07/biden-justice-department-defends-trump-in-suit-over-rape-denial-492088
al bupp
(2,182 posts)This is why we need a strong and free press, as well as open and fair elections, unhindered by restrictive voting laws and ballot access.
Lovie777
(12,321 posts)President Biden was not involved nor aware of the decision of certain DOJ's to pursue this effed up matter.
marble falls
(57,172 posts)... Politico's headlines have become click bait.
This has nothing to with the DoJ specifically defending Trump from rape.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)defending him from defamation, correct?
Meanwhile the SOS of Arizona has gone on TV dozens of times stating that federal election laws are being violated in Arizona by the cyber ninjas yet our DOJ chooses not to intervene there.
orangecrush
(19,611 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,652 posts)but what can we do? I doubt even Biden has anything to do with this.
RockRaven
(14,990 posts)rights, etc., no matter how corrupt the initial decision was. The DOJ never concedes that they have behaved inappropriately when it comes to executive branch powers/privileges. And their appetite for executive authority is never satiated.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)I don't agree especially since there is no law set in stone that a sitting president can't be indicted.
PSPS
(13,614 posts)This kind of behavior will cost the democrats both the congress and the white house if it hasn't already. Many democrats will just go back to not voting.
Cetacea
(7,367 posts)K&R
Elessar Zappa
(14,033 posts)If Democrats throw a temper tantrum and dont vote then we deserve everything coming to us. Adults understand that no party is perfect and that the Republicans are far, far more dangerous than the Democrats.
LymphocyteLover
(5,652 posts)given all sorts of other issues that affect voting more strongly.
The law is complicated.
bucolic_frolic
(43,258 posts)It's not to say this suit is without merit or the subject of egregious conduct. I think there is no mechanism for sorting the severity of lawsuits, so they're defending the institution.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)the DOJ should not get involved.
So does this mean that the DOJ will defend Trump against the paralyzing civil law suit being brought against him by NY's Letitia James?
George II
(67,782 posts)....paragraphs sum up the position of the "Biden Administration" (i.e., the Justice Department) in this case.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)Many scholars feel that a sitting president can be indicted. I feel that a sitting president can be indicted, do you?
Remember now a federal judge already ruled the DOJ should not get involved. Maybe if Trump saves some money on lawyer fees he can do more rallies where he can preach against the rule of law.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,586 posts)Justice Dept. continues appeal on behalf of Trump in defamation case brought by sexual assault accuser
By Shayna Jacobs
June 7, 2021 at 10:06 p.m. EDT
NEW YORK The Justice Department's Civil Division under President Biden is continuing the Trump-era push to represent the former president in a defamation lawsuit brought by author E. Jean Carroll, according to a Monday night appellate court filing.
The lawsuit brought by Carroll who accused Donald Trump two years ago of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s has been stalled in litigation over whether the Justice Department had standing to represent him on the grounds that his denials in response to her claim were made while performing his presidential duties.
The legal maneuver would have required a judge to find that a federal tort law that protects government employees from civil liability applies to a sitting president.
Last year, a federal judge in Manhattan rejected the Justice Departments effort to enter the case on the grounds that both elements were missing from the equation.
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By Shayna Jacobs
Shayna Jacobs is a federal courts and law enforcement reporter on the national security team at The Washington Post, where she covers the Southern and Eastern districts of New York. Twitter https://twitter.com/shaynajacobs
Lonestarblue
(10,053 posts)His defamation was not an official act done in the performance of his duty as president. So far, Im fairly disappointed in the DOJ. This continued support of Trump seems totally unwarranted. And I hope that they are investigating his role and Roger Stones role in the January 6 attack since no one else is, but Im losing faith that anyone part of planning and paying for that insurrection will be held accountable.
And the fact that theyre doing nothing about the violation of federal laws in the Arizona fraud audit is is particularly concerning. A mild warning is not enough. And now that Pennsylvania plans to do the same thing, how about a preemptive strike by ordering those ballots stay in the hands of state officials as required.
gab13by13
(21,385 posts)The insurrection did not end on 1/6 but it is getting stronger. People in high places need to go to jail or this insurrection will continue with impunity.
Then Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is allowed to go to DOJ and demand that they investigate bogus election fraud and nothing can be done to him for interfering with DOJ because there is no written law. Well there is no written law that says a sitting president can't be indicted either.
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Explain to me why I should vote in the future if my state has a law where the person who gets the most votes, if he/she is a Democrat, may not be the winner? Where is our DOJ in Arizona?
Elessar Zappa
(14,033 posts)Thats what Republicans are counting on.
Jay25
(417 posts)allow them to toss out the votes that they don't like. The DOJ should be addressing repub voter suppression, instead they are defending Trump.
LymphocyteLover
(5,652 posts)and fall under government jurisdiction, as nauseating as the whole thing is.
orangecrush
(19,611 posts)And had better stop.
The next remedy is the streets
Think about those optics.
And spare me the bullshit rationalizations.
Polybius
(15,470 posts)The Biden Justice Department? That would be a bad idea for our hopes in 2022.
rpannier
(24,336 posts)They're defending the Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Compensation Act of 1988, not trump directly
There are issues regarding the President and the protections the office does/does not hold
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)rpannier
(24,336 posts)What the DoJ is doing is defending Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Compensation Act of 1988 (aka the Westfall Act)
The Act protects federal employees for "negligent or wrongful act[s] or omission[s]...while acting within the scope of [their] office or employment", the employees are considered immune and the U.S. government becomes the defendant and the case is moved to federal court
Is the President a federal employee? Was he acting within the scope of his office?
This is one of those issues that should be settled by the Courts