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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:38 PM Oct 2012

Gold Star Mother: Romney Skipped Funeral, Left "Bullying" Messages

Source: The Phoenix

Appearing on ABC’s The View this past Thursday, Ann Romney claimed that her husband, as governor of Massachusetts, “went to every funeral” of fallen soldiers from the Commonwealth. She spoke of the difficult role he had “to comfort those that have lost a loved one and have gone in harm’s way.”

But Mitt Romney did not attend every soldier’s funeral; there were at least two cases where he did not.

And in one of those cases, a Gold Star mother claims that, far from comforting, Romney left insensitive phone messages – messages that she calls “bullying” and her husband describes as “abusive.”

“I can’t believe you haven’t returned my call,” Romney said on one of the voice mail messages, according to Stephany Kern, speaking at her Westerly, Rhode Island home this past Saturday. “Here I am making a second call; I haven’t heard from you.”



Read more: http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/22/gold-star-mother-romney-skipped-funeral-left-quot-bullying-quot-messages.aspx

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Gold Star Mother: Romney Skipped Funeral, Left "Bullying" Messages (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
He is Disgusting. No other words. eom 2theleft Oct 2012 #1
Willard being an arrogant self-important ass? Again? savannah43 Oct 2012 #2
His True Colors.... inamatteroftime Oct 2012 #3
K&R nt inamatteroftime Oct 2012 #5
yes, this speaks to character, as well as his poor mental health. nt Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #4
From the "Do you know who *******I******* am?" files, surely!! MADem Oct 2012 #6
Exactly. whathehell Oct 2012 #53
Yep. n/t silvershadow Oct 2012 #56
OMG. How despicable. What an arrogant ass. catbyte Oct 2012 #7
Actually, I think that Mitt Romney makes arrogant... dchill Oct 2012 #18
This has to be one of the most disgusting things I have ever read! Kadie Oct 2012 #8
More from article kpete Oct 2012 #12
Wow. Too bad she didn't catch that on tape. crazylikafox Oct 2012 #9
the thought of such a tape makes me drool Enrique Oct 2012 #16
Oh man...if she did.... ClusterFreak Oct 2012 #27
Don't you know it's all about "me" Smilo Oct 2012 #10
Thanks for this, kpete. I knew when Ann said that on The View.. Cha Oct 2012 #11
Every statement that woman "volunteers" is a lie. DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #20
That's why I knew it was a LIE. LIE for the cult and LIE to get Elected Cha Oct 2012 #22
The View should put her on to rebut Queen Ann. But they won't. They did their snow job already. freshwest Oct 2012 #25
They Absolutely Should put the Gold Star Mother on if she would Cha Oct 2012 #28
I would really like to see and hear her story on TV renate Oct 2012 #37
The real story should be DU'ed or however it's done to The View. freshwest Oct 2012 #38
Tweeted to The View by DU Twitterbugs, yes! nm Cha Oct 2012 #44
Cool! I don't tweet or facebook, DU is it for me. Thanks, Cha! freshwest Oct 2012 #45
Tonight's debate is going to stretch his tolerance to the limit. This might be the one where we see truthisfreedom Oct 2012 #13
We just may see smoke come out of his ears. Kadie Oct 2012 #15
what a disgusting self important creep azurnoir Oct 2012 #14
Yup, that's our boy Mitt. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #17
Anthropology 101 sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #19
this is really bad. add this to his other insults and you get an ugly man! Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #21
POS. Solly Mack Oct 2012 #23
Remember Bush's "How do you know his life would have been good?" NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #24
my jaw was already hanging open after reading the Romney parts of this thread renate Oct 2012 #31
Reminiscent of his visit to wounded soldiers, George Bush vs.Cedar Tree: freshwest Oct 2012 #43
He's a bully...the Queen is a bully...and it appears that the sons are bullies too. SoapBox Oct 2012 #26
In one of Mitt's houses, is painting of Willard hidden away from view Ilsa Oct 2012 #29
so many little mittens' stories together give this one a ring of truth mountain grammy Oct 2012 #30
Willard = Republican 1% Chickenhawk a-hole dissing our sons and daughters in uniform Berlum Oct 2012 #32
He is a Mormon male. The Mormon version of life after death ... Maineman Oct 2012 #33
Amen. TxVietVet Oct 2012 #39
Despicable, but typical of Romney. Read the comments.. Romney was vacationing with HIS family.. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #34
Bishop $omney Why Syzygy Oct 2012 #48
WOW femrap Oct 2012 #35
Geez Mitt Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2012 #36
What a charmer. secondvariety Oct 2012 #40
Well, his time is important between therapy sessions he obviously needs, kpete. n/t condoleeza Oct 2012 #41
OMG - It's all about Mitt. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #42
I'm shocked that someone would be that self-centered... HoosierRadical Oct 2012 #46
He's a bully .. Why Syzygy Oct 2012 #47
At least we are all getting an education about sociopaths tavalon Oct 2012 #49
Heartless! liberal N proud Oct 2012 #50
I hope people pay attention to these stories.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #51
Asshole. MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #52
I will forever mourn for this tape CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #54
I saw Ann on the View oppressedproletarian Oct 2012 #55
I've never seen an expression on Mitt's face that did not look as though a bad actor was merrily Oct 2012 #57
Yes i despise oppressedproletarian Oct 2012 #59
Is it too much to hope that she saved the voice messages? kenfrequed Oct 2012 #58

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. From the "Do you know who *******I******* am?" files, surely!!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:47 PM
Oct 2012

Sounds just like the little weasel....

Forgive me, I didn't mean to insult weasels...

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
53. Exactly.
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:00 PM
Oct 2012

It's like "Well, I know you're little "nobody" son DIED for our country,

but, I, Mitt Romney, am making TWO phone calls to your unworthy self"!

What an entitled, contemptible piece of shit he is....I hope her story goes viral.

Kadie

(15,369 posts)
8. This has to be one of the most disgusting things I have ever read!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:50 PM
Oct 2012

I want to say unbelievable, but after watching romney all these months, I can believe it.

Terrible. Just terrible.



kpete

(71,997 posts)
12. More from article
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:01 PM
Oct 2012

The Phoenix could find no record of Romney’s whereabouts on the day of the funeral, which took place on the Saturday two days after Thanksgiving. Romney had been in Boston earlier in the week. The following Tuesday, Romney flew to California for the Republican Governors Association annual meeting. Kern says that in the third message he left, Romney mentioned being at the Governors meeting.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/22/gold-star-mother-romney-skipped-funeral-left-quot-bullying-quot-messages.aspx

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
10. Don't you know it's all about "me"
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

And the attitude doesn't surprise me - how awful to use someone's sorrow for his "cause".

Cha

(297,373 posts)
11. Thanks for this, kpete. I knew when Ann said that on The View..
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 05:56 PM
Oct 2012

that she was lying. What a fucking worst example for a potential first lady. She sickens.

Sorry, the Gold Star parents had to endure romney after their son was killed in Iraq.

Steve Kern, who has been married to Stephany Kern since prior to Schiavoni enlisting in 2002, says that he heard Romney’s second and third messages.

He recalls Romney saying in one: “I’m a busy man.” He describes Romney’s tone as “disrespectful,” “antagonistic,” and “absolutely inappropriate to use on a Gold Star mother.”

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
20. Every statement that woman "volunteers" is a lie.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:30 PM
Oct 2012

Every single one.

They do it for the cult, but you already know that.

Cha

(297,373 posts)
22. That's why I knew it was a LIE. LIE for the cult and LIE to get Elected
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:36 PM
Oct 2012

to bring it to our White House. MF.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. The View should put her on to rebut Queen Ann. But they won't. They did their snow job already.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012
Note the behavior of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy, as compared to Romney:

...She says that Senators Kennedy and Kerry called other family members to ask when it would be appropriate to contact her again. Both sent representatives to the funeral. Kennedy left a follow-up message to say that a mass would be sent for Shiavoni in Hyannisport, with Kennedy family members in attendance.

It was around the time of that Kennedy message, she says, when "I got the [second] phone call from Governor Romney, who could not believe -- could not believe -- that I hadn't returned his phone call. It was shocking to me.... And I think that just bypassed me until I got the third phone call. The third phone call was outrageous."

Cha

(297,373 posts)
28. They Absolutely Should put the Gold Star Mother on if she would
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

want to even be there!

Senators Kennedy and Kerry have Class.

mitt is an arrogant Idiot.

renate

(13,776 posts)
37. I would really like to see and hear her story on TV
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

As much as I loathe Mitt Romney, I find it hard to believe that even he would talk like that to a grieving mother.... I can imagine him saying it, but it's just so jawdroppingly horrible... if it's true, it's the kind of thing we have a right to know about. If he treats the parent of a soldier who gave his life for his country with such contempt, how would he treat the rest of us?

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
38. The real story should be DU'ed or however it's done to The View.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

At least they'll know not everyone is buying the con job by Mitt, Ann and Lyin' Ryan.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
13. Tonight's debate is going to stretch his tolerance to the limit. This might be the one where we see
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:01 PM
Oct 2012

the real bully Mitt appear. He was getting close last time, with his gestures as well as words.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. what a disgusting self important creep
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:02 PM
Oct 2012

"we lowered ourselves to call you and you haven't called us back"

and this wants to POTUS?

can't let it happen

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
19. Anthropology 101
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:29 PM
Oct 2012

Romney is a type of subhuman spawned from the ooze of obscene wealth, privilege and hubris. It's unlikely he will ever take responsibility for his own life or walk upright. We can be responsible enough to see he never knuckle walks into the Oval Office.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
21. this is really bad. add this to his other insults and you get an ugly man!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:35 PM
Oct 2012

his rude behavior with that mass. lady who was talking to him about LGBT rights, the 7-11 cookie insult he made to his supporters at their house, and other various Mittisms show this guy is an ass!



--> http://www.zazzle.com/mitt_is_sketchy_sticker-217016055167893543?rf=238107662556833486

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
24. Remember Bush's "How do you know his life would have been good?"
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012
Dolores reports exclusively for U.S. Tour of Duty that she waited alone in a small partitioned area, wondering if her request would be granted, before a Bush aide suddenly announced, "The president will now see you." As the commander in chief strode briskly toward her, it seemed to Dolores that he was trying to intimidate her. "He came marching in and got right in my face...eyeball to eyeball, and said, 'I'm George Bush, the president of the United States, and I understand you have something to say to me in private.'"

Dolores tried to give Bush a sense of what type of person Erik had been. She described her son as a "comedian" whose favorite saying was, "Life is good." The president replied, "How do you know his life would have been good?"


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x479658

renate

(13,776 posts)
31. my jaw was already hanging open after reading the Romney parts of this thread
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:18 PM
Oct 2012

It couldn't go any further, but if it could've, it would've.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
43. Reminiscent of his visit to wounded soldiers, George Bush vs.Cedar Tree:
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 12:11 AM
Oct 2012


Lewis Black tells about George Bush visiting wounded vets and had the audacity to bring up a splinter he got from a cedar tree as he tries to "relate" to the wounds of these soldiers. Is there no end to Bush's insensitivity or his stupidity?

Romney, like Bush, is not aware of where he's at in the time-space continuum...

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
26. He's a bully...the Queen is a bully...and it appears that the sons are bullies too.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 06:48 PM
Oct 2012

Not even surprised.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
29. In one of Mitt's houses, is painting of Willard hidden away from view
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

of all decent people....

You can write the rest of the magical Dorian Gray reference.

mountain grammy

(26,630 posts)
30. so many little mittens' stories together give this one a ring of truth
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:12 PM
Oct 2012

even though many stories are largely unsubstantiated. If he walks like a bully, talks like a bully, and acts like a bully, he probably is a bully..

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
32. Willard = Republican 1% Chickenhawk a-hole dissing our sons and daughters in uniform
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oct 2012

America has already had enough of that to last a millennium.

We don't need no more.

Maineman

(854 posts)
33. He is a Mormon male. The Mormon version of life after death ...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

is that if he has been good, he can expect to be the higher power, the god, of his very own planet somewhere out there in the cosmos. Many Mormon males, in anticipation of that status, take on arrogant, self-important, power wielding personalities. Romney is a great example.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
39. Amen.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
Oct 2012

Rmoney will get his own planet in the celestial kingdom. So, since he's almost a god, then he needs to start practicing for his role. The guy is a stupid conservanazi .

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
34. Despicable, but typical of Romney. Read the comments.. Romney was vacationing with HIS family..
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 07:50 PM
Oct 2012

in Florida, that weekend. Couldn't be bothered to stay in town for the funeral. Then called to harass her for not calling him back. What a jackass. SO narcissistic. He's taking that mormon god thing too far.. thinks he's already a god.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
48. Bishop $omney
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:52 AM
Oct 2012

is for real a god. His will shall not be challenged! His temple members did not disobey him.

HoosierRadical

(390 posts)
46. I'm shocked that someone would be that self-centered...
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:25 AM
Oct 2012

In the third message, the jerk chastised the mother saying he is a very busy man...incredible...what a complete a-hole.

Why Syzygy

(18,928 posts)
47. He's a bully ..
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:49 AM
Oct 2012

he can't even do a decent pretend that he is anything other than a pompous, lying, bully.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
49. At least we are all getting an education about sociopaths
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:00 AM
Oct 2012

It's actually important for each of us to recognize them so that we can keep them from damaging us personally and as a species. Sociopaths are not only highly destructive, they often float to the top, as with Mittster.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
51. I hope people pay attention to these stories....
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:55 AM
Oct 2012

The story about Seamus on the roof, the story about the anti-gay bashing, the cruel prank on his teacher, his impersonating a law enforcement officer, his hiding in France during the Vietnam War, etc. Time and again we see that Robme is a privileged, conceited, self-serving, soulless individual. His wealth and privilege have opened all the doors in his life and he hopes his rich buddies in the 1% can buy him the White House. He has no interest in public service. His only interest is serving himself.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
54. I will forever mourn for this tape
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:15 PM
Oct 2012

It's too bad that she didn't keep the messages.

If she still has the same answering machine, I would consider taking it to someone who could maybe figure out something. I'm sure it's doubtful, but those messages could lose the Presidency for him. He's all ready on his way to losing it, but it would be nice to see a blowout.

55. I saw Ann on the View
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

She was asked how she would handle going to military funerals while having 5 sons who did not serve in military---how would she explain that to grieving families? She vomited out a string of meaningless platitudes but weaseled out of any direct reply to the question----and the View did not press her further. Pissed me off.

To such as the Romneys, the masses are nothing but cannon fodder to be exploited.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
57. I've never seen an expression on Mitt's face that did not look as though a bad actor was
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:22 PM
Oct 2012

trying to convey a certain emotion, including the loving look he gives anyone speaking well of him in his presence. George H.W. Bush giving him a tepid endorsement gets the same pseudo warm look as Ryan or Ann.

If a camera were around, he'd probably give Rafalca the same adoring look.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
58. Is it too much to hope that she saved the voice messages?
Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:35 PM
Oct 2012

Really, this would just be one more lie that he told to try to get into office.

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