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Etherealoc1

(256 posts)
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 10:14 PM Jun 2021

LEAKED AUDIO OF SEN. JOE MANCHIN CALL WITH BILLIONAIRE DONORS PROVIDES RARE GLIMPSE OF DEALMAKING ON

Last edited Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:53 AM - Edit history (3)

Source: The Intercept


Audio of Joe Manchin in the meeting
hosted by the group No Labels, an operation co-founded by former Sen. Joe Lieberman was leaked.

The call included investors and corporate executives and the
meeting was led by Nancy Jacobson, the co-founder of No Labels.

Voting reform, infrastructure, were some of the topics Manchin was discussing with the group.


Read more: https://theintercept.com/2021/06/16/joe-manchin-leaked-billionaire-donors-no-labels/



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LEAKED AUDIO OF SEN. JOE MANCHIN CALL WITH BILLIONAIRE DONORS PROVIDES RARE GLIMPSE OF DEALMAKING ON (Original Post) Etherealoc1 Jun 2021 OP
Interesting. Nt flying rabbit Jun 2021 #1
After listening to the recording Etherealoc1 Jun 2021 #10
The Intercept. nt sheshe2 Jun 2021 #2
Exactly JohnSJ Jun 2021 #5
Several threads based on them tonight. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #7
Listen to the recording questionseverything Jun 2021 #16
Huh? It's an authentic audio recording. PSPS Jun 2021 #12
I also just blank out any news contradicting my own views ... TomWilm Jun 2021 #17
Inside the mansions of Joe's mind Blue Owl Jun 2021 #3
For sure Etherealoc1 Jun 2021 #9
Will look for another source. Intercept is not reliable. AllyCat Jun 2021 #4
Sounds like Manchin is less hard and fast about the filibuster than is reported AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2021 #6
Yep Etherealoc1 Jun 2021 #8
The Franken/ Ornstein plan! Hooray!!! mahina Jun 2021 #11
go back to when joe m. daughter ceo jack-up insulin pen's 600% !! bring that up ??? monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #13
Had forgotten about that, so Thanks! Duppers Jun 2021 #20
Everything about this raises my eyebrows Cheezoholic Jun 2021 #14
Respect "dark money " 1percenters privacy? questionseverything Jun 2021 #15
Indeed, please. Duppers Jun 2021 #21
Main difference is if it is official snooping or some private hit job TomWilm Jun 2021 #18
How is this "spying" if ... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #19
K&R ck4829 Jun 2021 #22
They'll throw it in your face... Maxheader Jun 2021 #23

Etherealoc1

(256 posts)
10. After listening to the recording
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 11:49 PM
Jun 2021

I couldn't believe Manchin willingly
knows McConnell is blocking everything because of his stance on
the filibuster and that in itself could
derail President Biden’s agenda.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
16. Listen to the recording
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:03 AM
Jun 2021

It’s dark money and passing voting reform

About how desperately they want the filibuster kept

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,040 posts)
6. Sounds like Manchin is less hard and fast about the filibuster than is reported
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 10:37 PM
Jun 2021

Open to requiring talking filibuster, lowering threshold to 55, requiring 41 to sustain, rather than 60 to break...

He also sounds a bit frustrated at the Republicans if he's begging donors to pressure them.

Cheezoholic

(2,028 posts)
14. Everything about this raises my eyebrows
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:21 AM
Jun 2021

While the content of the recording is worrisome, to me is how this content, be it legitimate or not, was obtained. I find it curious that this comes out the same week that it was discovered the other guys DOJ was secretly spying on so many. Which is justified and which isn't? Granted this recording apparently didn't get leaked from a government source investigating a crime, but still, isn't this spying for personal and to some extent political gain? Did this come from an external hack of a wireless router at their home or office? That's a crime. Or did it come from an internal source close to one of the participants, whether it be an employee, internal from an IT person. While that may not be a crime it can result in severe civil penalties beyond loss of employment. I understand journalists have sources and those sources are very important to getting to the truth at times. I guess my point is this whole thing is very suspicious. Politicians have these private calls all the time. This one just happened to pop up? I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to hack Gohmert or Brooks (his passwords are on his car dash) home wireless, criminally. I'm sure many of those private calls contain much more damning information than this one. It's one thing to be in the room and then leak the information or even be in the room and secretly record then leak the information, you were invited so risk is always prevalent. It's another to violate peoples privacy via hijacking networks or cellphones or PC's etc. if that's how it was obtained. If we are upset about the previous DOJ's behavior, we should be upset about this reporters behavior, especially if this recording was obtained maliciously. What little privacy we have left needs to be protected no matter who you are.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
15. Respect "dark money " 1percenters privacy?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:58 AM
Jun 2021

Not sorry


When romneys 47 percent comment leaked were you “concerned “?

TomWilm

(1,832 posts)
18. Main difference is if it is official snooping or some private hit job
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 05:29 AM
Jun 2021

Even if you are just talking to another person, there is always the possibility that he would leak your words. Or just a carefully edited selected few totally out of context. Or that somebody else is listening behind the door. Only in your thoughts are you totally free.

Many times worse is the leaks, where your own government use their power to snoop on you. Especially when they secretly use this information against you.

In between this, the big political parties and companies hires black ops freelancers to find and spread the dirt. So does also the governments to be able to claim innocence.

My guess is this recent leak is just business as normal. Somebody on that Zoom call had a political interest in getting this out, and so they did.

Nobody on a bigger Zoom call can believe that they are talking in full privacy - so nothing was said, which was not planned to be spread anyway!

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
19. How is this "spying" if ...
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:38 AM
Jun 2021

... it was leaked by a participant to the conversation? This entirely different from a surreptitious third party listening in... Let alone a third party that is law enforcement.

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