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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,474 posts)
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:48 AM Jun 2021

Texas governor puts $250 million down payment on a border wall

Source: Washington Post

AUSTIN — Texas Gov. Greg Abbott announced Wednesday he was putting a $250 million down payment on a state-led project to build "hundreds of miles" of border wall as part of a security plan he said was made necessary by the federal government's neglect of communities along the state's international river boundary with Mexico.

Flanked by Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (R) and more than two dozen cheering Texas lawmakers, Abbott (R) signed documents authorizing several actions to address the “tidal wave” of immigration that is overwhelming border law enforcement and stoking acrimony in some communities.

Abbott, who is seeking a third term in 2022 and was recently endorsed by former president Donald Trump, opened his remarks by crediting the previous administration’s policies for slowing migration and tying his state’s perceived woes to the Biden administration’s dismantling of those programs. Trump announced Tuesday that he had accepted Abbott’s invitation to visit the border this month.

Abbott painted a bleak picture of border cities as victims of an “open border” policy he blames for the large numbers of migrants “wreaking havoc” and “carnage” on both populous and remote communities along the Rio Grande.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/texas-governor-puts-250-million-down-payment-on-a-border-wall/2021/06/16/da4dde0c-ceea-11eb-8cd2-4e95230cfac2_story.html



Is that his money or the Texas taxpayers' money? Article doesn't say.
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Texas governor puts $250 million down payment on a border wall (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 OP
are ya happy taxpayers.... bahboo Jun 2021 #1
Well, today Abbott signed ther permitless carry law. Budi Jun 2021 #5
This what the GOP Snackshack Jun 2021 #15
Who needs real electricity crisis when you can manufacture border one & look STRONG for election Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #16
Yes, it is all just a stunt, PatSeg Jun 2021 #31
We are getting closer to expanding the HSR OneCrazyDiamond Jun 2021 #36
I found a golf ball with JFC on it. twodogsbarking Jun 2021 #25
This Texas taxpayer isn't. Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #30
Open border my ass...jerk! Why didn't you use the 250 mil to fix your electric grid..JHC PortTack Jun 2021 #2
Some of it, no doubt, is the two months of U/I that he's stealing. hamsterjill Jun 2021 #3
This is how Republicans govern. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2021 #4
Well if they aren't frozen to death or die of heatstroke or get shot then they will have the wall Murphyb849 Jun 2021 #6
Wonder if that wall xxqqqzme Jun 2021 #18
Do what? Most land owners along the border DON'T WANT Justice matters. Jun 2021 #7
Is that guy stupid or what? Tactical Peek Jun 2021 #8
Makes perfect sense once you realize the fact that it's the illegals fault, stealing all the power! Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #14
Abbott is dumber than former Texas Gov. "Oops" Perry. oasis Jun 2021 #35
$250 million in state funds dalton99a Jun 2021 #9
The money could have been used to upgrade the state's energy infrastructure so it won't fail LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2021 #13
well shit , so much for utilities don't want to hear poor texas & that shit no more !! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #10
Hmmm I thought the federal government only had had jurisdiction when it came to border security? cstanleytech Jun 2021 #11
I was wondering the same thing. Karma13612 Jun 2021 #38
Is it legal for a state to close down a federal border? wnylib Jun 2021 #12
I was wondering the same thing. Karma13612 Jun 2021 #39
Regarding state borders. wnylib Jun 2021 #40
Whoa!!!!! Nt Karma13612 Jun 2021 #42
If I lived in TX,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2021 #17
You got that right! ananda Jun 2021 #32
A Gift That Will Keep On Giving modrepub Jun 2021 #19
Meanwhile, back along the power grid . . . Vinca Jun 2021 #20
It's not a wall, it's a fence. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #21
and Texans wonder why they're a fucking laughingstock worldwide... bringthePaine Jun 2021 #22
Good God in Butter. Botany Jun 2021 #23
It is very nice here on the border. Scruffy1 Jun 2021 #24
Oh yeah? OldBaldy1701E Jun 2021 #26
I wish texass would build that wall all the way around the state. The Jungle 1 Jun 2021 #27
I guarantee you, it's not his personal money. ananda Jun 2021 #28
The wall can keep out the heat in summer and cold in winter IronLionZion Jun 2021 #29
the new texas repuke grift. Javaman Jun 2021 #33
Not every Texan landowner on the border wants a wall built through their property. Martin68 Jun 2021 #34
Shovel: 24.99 mahina Jun 2021 #37
While Texans roast in the summer and freeze in the winter. paleotn Jun 2021 #41
First off, that's chump change compared to cost of building a wall Bucky Jun 2021 #43
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Well, today Abbott signed ther permitless carry law.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:03 AM
Jun 2021

I truly believe he'd prefer it if Tx had no people to worry about & he & his crime family could just go about the business of greasing palms without answering to anyone.

Closest thing to seccession they can get without actually doing so.

Everyone can open carry with no permit necessary, if the grid in the cold of winter or scorching heat of summer goes down (& it already is & its only June) and y'all didn't buy yourself a generator then you are just s.o.l.
Move. Leave. Die. Just don't get in their way of doing business.
They really don't give a shit.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
15. This what the GOP
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:44 AM
Jun 2021

Nationwide wants. It is why they are such big fans of Putin and Russia. They want the USA to be an oligarchy with them as the oligarchs because they know what is best for us not voters.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,075 posts)
16. Who needs real electricity crisis when you can manufacture border one & look STRONG for election
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 05:38 AM
Jun 2021

$250,000,000 election stunt paid for by taxpayers.

California wants high speed trains and Texas wants gunz 'n' wallz, y'all.

PatSeg

(47,768 posts)
31. Yes, it is all just a stunt,
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jun 2021

a very expensive stunt that won't accomplish much at all on the border and it won't serve the people who are paying for it. Politics have run amok in this country, leaving reason and sanity behind. Well, republican politics that is. The crazier the right gets, the more rational Democrats become or at least appear anyway.

Lonestarblue

(10,170 posts)
30. This Texas taxpayer isn't.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:17 AM
Jun 2021

Republicans brag about no state income tax and then tax us to death on our properties. I moved from the Northeast, and my property taxes here were more than double what I had paid on a more expensive property there. So no I do not want my taxes to pay for a stupid wall.

What Republicans also fail to tell people is that the wall would have to be built as much as two miles from the river because the ground near the river is not stable enough for such a massive structure, which means that hundreds or perhaps thousands of US citizens who live along the river would have a wall separating their property from the rest of Texas. Imagine having to go a hundred miles for medical care when you’re having a heart attack or having to go through a border security checkpoint every time you go to the grocery store.

Former Representative Will Hurd offered a plan a few years ago for electronic surveillance. How novel. Let’s use inexpensive, up-to-date technology to assist with the problem instead of medieval technology of an ugly wall! Aargh! I hate Republicans. All they want to do is destroy.

We do need to do something about the migrants coming from Central America. In addition to overwhelming federal government resources, they suck up the charitable resources that would have gone into local communities for citizens, thus creating resentment among those citizens. I suspect that is why Trump won Hidalgo County in 2020 and why we just saw the election of a Republican mayor in a traditionally Democratic area. Democrats at both state and federal levels need to talk to people who live on the border and ask what they want and need. Abbott’s border wall is not the answer in my mind, but it might be supported just to stop the inflow of migrants.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,766 posts)
4. This is how Republicans govern.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:58 AM
Jun 2021

Bullet proof their election and then do what they want. Texans are fucked. Some know it, most don't.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
18. Wonder if that wall
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:16 AM
Jun 2021

will keep them from freezing when the next frigid front moves through, or blocks the next heat wave from creating texas humidiity hell, Then there are the floods the wall will surely divert because that was a development disaster from the start.

Great wall of China; Hadrian's Wall; Hitler's Atlantic Wall; and the Berlin Wall. All excellent examples of useless, failed wannabe barriers. Abbott's Wall takes its place on the list

And the rethugs want to recall Newsom because he did his job during a pandemic.

Justice matters.

(6,955 posts)
7. Do what? Most land owners along the border DON'T WANT
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:29 AM
Jun 2021
A FRIGIN UGLY WALL on THEIR property!

Republican "owners' rights" concept... Freedumb.

dalton99a

(81,708 posts)
9. $250 million in state funds
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 02:35 AM
Jun 2021
Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday announced some new details of his plan for Texas to build its own border wall, starting with the hiring process for a program manager and providing $250 million in state funds as a "down payment."

"Texas will build a border wall in our state to help secure our border," Abbott said.

The governor did not specify how long the wall would be, where it would be built or the total cost of the project, saying that those decisions will need to be determined by a program manager. On Wednesday, Abbott directed the Texas Facilities Commission to hire a program manager to begin that work.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/16/texas-border-wall-greg-abbott/
13. The money could have been used to upgrade the state's energy infrastructure so it won't fail
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:04 AM
Jun 2021

during the next big snowstorm or heatwave.

But no, it's more important to use the money to build a wall that won't keep the Mexicans out. You can't take a political photo of yourself standing next to a roll of electrical wire and make it look like a significant accomplishment. A wall is bigger and more impressive.

cstanleytech

(26,361 posts)
11. Hmmm I thought the federal government only had had jurisdiction when it came to border security?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:46 AM
Jun 2021

Not to mention shouldn't any walls even inside the state itself and not on the border that are designed to be a check on people's movements be a violation of the Privileges and Immunities Clause within the Constitutions clause?

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
38. I was wondering the same thing.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:35 PM
Jun 2021

Texas is not a country.

How can they just decide to build a wall with only State authority.

wnylib

(21,789 posts)
12. Is it legal for a state to close down a federal border?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:57 AM
Jun 2021

There are official points of entry. Is he going to close those down? Or is he putting the wall between entry points? People come and go across borders daily for work, shopping, and entertainment.

If he is using state funds that were raised within the state that would be stupid and wasteful, but acceptable, I guess. But if he is using federal funds that were allocated to Texas for something else, is that legal?

Karma13612

(4,555 posts)
39. I was wondering the same thing.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:44 PM
Jun 2021

How can a state do this? They don’t have federal authority to do anything along a border with another country. Do they?

And on a state level, could Kansas (for example) just build a wall around their entire state to keep some people out or in, and create check points to control traffic in and out? Not for the purposes of auto traffic per se; but instead to control and monitor people’s ‘actions’.

After the precedent is set, I wonder how long it would be before Alabama closed it’s borders so that women who wanted to go elsewhere to get an abortion would be prohibited. There could be border check points asking to know the purpose of visits out of the state, etc.

Once step closer to Gilead.

I know I’m jumping the gun, but this reeks of GOP overreach. And I can see it being used for bad. For controlling people’s movements for reasons that are NONE OF THE STATE’S BUSINESS.



wnylib

(21,789 posts)
40. Regarding state borders.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jun 2021

Pennsylvania does not have sales tax on clothing. Their sales tax rate on taxed items is lower than in NY. I live near the NY-PA border. People used to drive to PA for back to school shopping in the fall and Chistmas shopping in December.

Then NY started putting state police on the NY side of the border to stop and check cars for items purchased in PA. NY tried to enforce NY tax rates on PA merchandise. They accused shoppers who went to PA of evading taxes. It failed in court.

That was several years ago. Now NY no longer has a sales tax on clothing. The sales tax rate on other items is still higher, of course, but no more highway check spots for PA purchases.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
17. If I lived in TX,,,,
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:07 AM
Jun 2021

i would rather have an electric grid that didn't go out for weeks bc the weather was too cold..........

modrepub

(3,505 posts)
19. A Gift That Will Keep On Giving
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:26 AM
Jun 2021

How many miles of wall will $250M build? Probably not that much. Once you build it, you have to maintain it. So TX has just committed itself to a structure that doesn't contribute to its tax base, like a road or even a park, and will continue to suck resources to keep it upright in perpetuity.

Botany

(70,655 posts)
23. Good God in Butter.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:11 AM
Jun 2021


Come on turn Texas blue twenty twenty two. We need an outreach to the Hispanic male voters.


The Lt. Governor or the Sec. of State has already admitted that if they hadn't stopped mail in voting TX would have gone to Biden.

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
24. It is very nice here on the border.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:28 AM
Jun 2021

I'm thinking that he gets away with this shit because most Texans live a long way from the border. Of course, the MSM helped in spreading the BS over the last few years. Border issues are the last refuge of the not so covert racists. They know that the "pro-life" cover isn't working to gin up votes the way it used to and he is upside down in popularity. This might shore up his support among the hard core base, but I don't think it will work in the general election. If border security is not an issue here on the border I don't think it will get much support in places like Dallas and Houston. The headline in the Juarez newspaper (El Diario) says that he is going to ask Mexico for help in building his "wall". Sounds familiar. The last gasps of a dead politician grasping to get reelected. I know it won't get any votes in the Rio Grand valley, but we are only a small and geographically remote area. In El Paso we are closer to Phoenix than Austin.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,214 posts)
26. Oh yeah?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:58 AM
Jun 2021

How are you going to build it without any power for your equipment? How are you going to secure it without the ability to illuminate the area? Most of all, how are you going to pay for it when your state is about to go bankrupt from the shaky power grid to the dicey roads? Don't worry Texas... your looney rethugs are going to destroy your state, just as they are destroying mine.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
27. I wish texass would build that wall all the way around the state.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:12 AM
Jun 2021

Alaska is bigger than texass and way nicer. Texass is just a big ugly desert. Just wait until the water runs out then they can eat their wall.
The trump wall is a failure. Americans dig under it, climb over it and cut through it. Complete failure.

Hey texass stay the F out of Pennsylvania's election business. Mind your own business.
Hey texass when is your Lt governor going to pay off his debt to Pa LT governor Fetterman. Texass can't even pay up when they lose.
John Fetterman is the next Democratic US Senator from Pa. Will you pay up then texass.

ananda

(28,912 posts)
28. I guarantee you, it's not his personal money.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:21 AM
Jun 2021

He said he was going to raise money to build that wall.

However, that down payment had to come from
somewhere....

I hope there's a lawsuit.

IronLionZion

(45,666 posts)
29. The wall can keep out the heat in summer and cold in winter
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:43 AM
Jun 2021

because it's not like Texas needs to improve their electric grid or anything frivolous like that.

Javaman

(62,537 posts)
33. the new texas repuke grift.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jun 2021

if asshole abbott has learned anything he has learned how to properly hide the graff and the grift. especially after steve bannon fucked up a good thing for the repukes.

nothing more than bullshit and mirrors. and we the tax payers will be on the hook for this horseshit.

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
43. First off, that's chump change compared to cost of building a wall
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:10 AM
Jun 2021

Second off, a wall still wouldn't work.

But most importantly, you could fully fund about 25 high schools for 5 years with that money.

I live in a state run by lunatics

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