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Grins

(7,218 posts)
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:34 AM Jun 2021

Federal employees to get Friday off as Biden signs legislation making Juneteenth a national holiday

Source: Washington Post

"President Biden, having returned to the White House from his first trip abroad as president, plans Thursday to sign into law a bill creating a federal holiday to commemorate Juneteenth, the day marking the end of slavery in Texas. Because June 19 falls on a Saturday this year, most federal employees will get this Friday off."


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/17/joe-biden-live-updates/



"...marking the end of slavery IN TEXAS." Imagine a federal holiday commemorating something that happened in a single state. Imagine being remembered for that.
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Federal employees to get Friday off as Biden signs legislation making Juneteenth a national holiday (Original Post) Grins Jun 2021 OP
As I remember, the slaves in Texas were the last to be freed DavidDvorkin Jun 2021 #1
Thats exactly the reason. oldsoftie Jun 2021 #9
It happened in every state. It just wasn't as well documented marybourg Jun 2021 #2
except in texas it took 2 yrs to get the news. mopinko Jun 2021 #4
They taught us in school that it took a verrrrrrry long time to get the news. displacedtexan Jun 2021 #7
Will we get mail delivery on Saturday? Dream Girl Jun 2021 #3
Yes because the holiday will be celebrated on Friday BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #15
I Always Wondered RobinA Jun 2021 #5
Because nothing happened when the Emancipation Proclamation was issued.. JT45242 Jun 2021 #6
I Always Thought WHITT Jun 2021 #8
If A Holiday Falls On Saturday, We Get The Friday Off COL Mustard Jun 2021 #12
I know the poor timekeepers are going ballistic! BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #14
Ah WHITT Jun 2021 #21
It probably won't be a "one-off" BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #26
Already Aware Or Fixed Fed Holidays WHITT Jun 2021 #29
Okay BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #30
Amazing WHITT Jun 2021 #31
Well I think the shock is the legislative branch's quick action BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #32
Great; the govt gets another day off. oldsoftie Jun 2021 #10
No, the government does not get enough days off DavidDvorkin Jun 2021 #11
This! happy feet Jun 2021 #25
you got THAT right Skittles Jun 2021 #28
Its a holiday in 47 states already, so Banks might already close. NutmegYankee Jun 2021 #16
"Imagine a federal holiday commemorating... BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #13
Will there be more federal holidays declared ? left-of-center2012 Jun 2021 #17
Wasnt that Harriet Tubman on the $20? Dream Girl Jun 2021 #18
ooops left-of-center2012 Jun 2021 #19
yes. thats what I recall/ I think they may still be in circulation, but I haven't seen them in years Dream Girl Jun 2021 #20
Lincoln freed the slaves 2 years prior IronLionZion Jun 2021 #22
"Texas decided to just not tell their slaves" left-of-center2012 Jun 2021 #23
Understood, but from Texas' point of view, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2021 #24
Delaware and Kentucky still kept their slaves until Dec 6 IronLionZion Jun 2021 #27

DavidDvorkin

(19,480 posts)
1. As I remember, the slaves in Texas were the last to be freed
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:38 AM
Jun 2021

That's why that day became the celebration of the end of slavery.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
2. It happened in every state. It just wasn't as well documented
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jun 2021

and memorialized in every state. Enslaved people in every state were notified that the emancipation proclamation had been signed and that they were free.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
7. They taught us in school that it took a verrrrrrry long time to get the news.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jun 2021

They also neglected to teach us that the Alamo was defended by paid mercenaries.

JT45242

(2,281 posts)
6. Because nothing happened when the Emancipation Proclamation was issued..
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jun 2021

It only freed slaves in states that were at war with the USA. So, it in fact did nothing when Lincoln issued it because the target was people who did not recognize his authority.

However, when the south LOST (although we treat them like they won), it was used as part of the thrust for the civil War amendments which granted equal protection and ended slavery.

So, Juneteenth became the symbol because that is when the goal of ending slavery was theoretically reached (if we ignored forced labor in prisons for blacks who were convicted of bogus crimes).

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
8. I Always Thought
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jun 2021

fed holidays were positioned on the closest Monday, except the few that don't move.


COL Mustard

(5,906 posts)
12. If A Holiday Falls On Saturday, We Get The Friday Off
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 02:09 PM
Jun 2021

If it falls on a Sunday, we get the Monday off. It sounds like this one will be a fixed holiday (June 19th), so we'll get the actual day if it falls on a workday. Still a lot of details to be worked out and not a lot of time to do them.

BumRushDaShow

(129,172 posts)
26. It probably won't be a "one-off"
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:00 PM
Jun 2021

There are several federal holidays that have fixed dates like Christmas Day (December 25), New Year's Day (January 1), Independence Day (July 4) and Veteran's Day (formerly "Armistice Day" - November 11) and they float through the days of the week but if they occur on a weekend, then they are actually "administratively celebrated" (federal offices closed) on either the Friday before (if occurring on a Saturday) or the Monday after (if occurring on a Sunday) that date.

BumRushDaShow

(129,172 posts)
30. Okay
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 07:42 AM
Jun 2021


What is so different from the last time (MLK one) was that the MLK holiday didn't go into effect until 3 years after the law was signed, where this happened literally the next day! And I know agency managers (I used to be one myself) and admin staff were going nuts yesterday, and from experience, so many "HQ" (D.C. metro) GS-1000s like their Friday meetings, and this pretty much torpedoed those.

None of the timekeeping systems have that holiday listed because, well, it just appeared out of nowhere with full passage and signature this week.

I'm still in the stage at the moment even though I am retired from fed service. No moaning about "there will only be 10 federal holidays no matter what". Just boom!

BumRushDaShow

(129,172 posts)
32. Well I think the shock is the legislative branch's quick action
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:16 AM
Jun 2021

meanwhile I know the Executive (outside of the President) is like WTF?

Only thing that might mitigate the administrative nightmare initially is that Presidents sometimes do full day off administrative leave so there is at least that category that could have been used as a placeholder for time cards (it's also used if a former President dies and the government is shutdown for the state funeral events).

oldsoftie

(12,559 posts)
10. Great; the govt gets another day off.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jun 2021

I think its wonderful to finally give Juneteenth a special day of celebration, but the government gets enough days off. And by extension, will banks shut down as well?

DavidDvorkin

(19,480 posts)
11. No, the government does not get enough days off
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 02:04 PM
Jun 2021

The real problem is that the private sector gets far too few days off.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
17. Will there be more federal holidays declared ?
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 02:54 PM
Jun 2021

I'm thinking there are, or were, people supporting other days to be commemorated.
What might some be ?

And I'd like to see Biden put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill.
Trump pushed that aside.

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
22. Lincoln freed the slaves 2 years prior
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jun 2021

and Texas decided to just not tell their slaves for 2 years until the Union Army rolled in and freed them by order. Native Americans, especially Choctaw, weren't freed in the territories until a year later.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,354 posts)
24. Understood, but from Texas' point of view, ...
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 04:12 PM
Jun 2021

... the Imancipation Proclamation was issued by the president of a foreign country, hardly applicable.

Dec 6 might have been a better date. On Dec 6, 1865, Georgia approved the 13th amendment, giving it enough states' endorsements to make it part of the constitution.

I wonder about the constitutionality of the Imancipation Proclamation, since it only freed slaves in the seceding states, leaving the issue to each state remaining in the Union.

Anyway, Happy Juneteenth, everyone!

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
27. Delaware and Kentucky still kept their slaves until Dec 6
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:14 PM
Jun 2021

so that date might be great but black Americans have lobbied for a long time to get June 19th. I don't want to speculate as to their reasons since Dec 7 is Pearl Harbor day and will live in infamy.

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