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BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:42 AM Jun 2021

House votes to repeal 2002 authorization for military force with strong bipartisan support

Source: Washington Post

The House voted Thursday to repeal a 19-year-old military authorization Congress passed to give legal backing to the Iraq War with the support of Democrats, Republicans and the White House — an unprecedented coalition to end post- 9/11 authorities to engage in hostilities that critics argue are outdated. The 268 to 161 vote reflects growing bipartisan support for the repeal effort, and tees up the legislation for the Senate, where Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) this week declared his support for the measure and his intention to bring it to the floor for a vote sometime this year.

“Today’s historic vote is a turning point,” House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Rep. Greg Meeks (D-N.Y.) said on the floor just prior to the vote. “I look forward to Congress no longer taking a backseat on some of the most consequential decisions our nation can make.” Congress, however, is still largely divided along party lines about whether the move to repeal such authorizations will actually allow lawmakers to reclaim their power to permit the use of military force — a decision that some believe has been usurped by successive presidents.

Lawmakers have been trying for almost a decade to repeal both the 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force as well as the 2001 AUMF that Congress passed to greenlight hostilities against the perpetrators of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Both the Obama and Trump administrations had opposed the repeal measures. People in both parties argued that the authorizations had been stretched beyond recognition to target terrorist groups that didn’t even exist when the approvals were granted, while different presidents insisted they needed the latitude to adapt to a changing threat landscape.

When President Biden came into office, he indicated that he was willing to work with lawmakers to wind down authorizations. For the past several months, his administration has been negotiating with leading proponents of repeal to determine the way forward. The 2002 authorization is generally viewed as the simplest of AUMFs to phase out. The Iraq war was formally ended years ago, and the military has not cited the permissions granted in 2002 as its sole justification for any operations in over a decade. Still, many lawmakers — most of them Republicans — have rejected the idea of winding down the existing AUMFs without having replacements prepared to address “the modern-day threat.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/aumf-repeal-congress/2021/06/17/1bd1ec70-cf76-11eb-a7f1-52b8870bef7c_story.html



Full headline: House votes to repeal 2002 authorization for military force with strong bipartisan support and a White House endorsement
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House votes to repeal 2002 authorization for military force with strong bipartisan support (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 OP
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 #1
Amazing Iraq AUMF 2001 2002 bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #2
We are in Afghanistan because of that AUMF BumRushDaShow Jun 2021 #3
Here's the full roll call vote SouthBayDem Jun 2021 #4
Good. Next they need to claw back the power the gave the president to declare unending emergencies. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #5
While not completed, this is encouraging... BadGimp Jun 2021 #6

bucolic_frolic

(43,223 posts)
2. Amazing Iraq AUMF 2001 2002
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:32 PM
Jun 2021

is this justification for Afghanistan too? And no one ever mentions the Gulf War. Remember that one? 1991 was it? When GHWB saved Kuwait for Kuwait Royal Family? We've been active in that region ever since. And Afghanistan has been under seige since the days of Charlie Wilson's War and Gunga Dan Rather, which I think is about 1983, and even before that from the USSR. Was it all about pipelines and oil? A superpower war over resources?

Sorry I ask a lot of questions. No I don't ask for answers. I'm just ranting.

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
3. We are in Afghanistan because of that AUMF
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jun 2021

And there were "reauthorizations" at regular intervals since as Al-Qaeda morphed into Isis. I actually took a trip to Egypt in 1992, about a year and a half after Desert Storm and there was an uneasy calm in the area that didn't last long.

That Khyber pass has been an endless source of attempts and failures to control it.

SouthBayDem

(32,037 posts)
4. Here's the full roll call vote
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jun 2021
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2021172

Among the 49 Republican "yea" votes were Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene - both members of the "Qanon Caucus". Even Creepy Matt Gaetz voted Yea as were Louie Gohmert and Madison Cawthorn.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. Good. Next they need to claw back the power the gave the president to declare unending emergencies.
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jun 2021

Including the 200 plus year old insurrection act.

No person, Democratic or Republican should have that much power.

30 days and it’s over unless Congress votes overwhelmingly for it.

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