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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:17 AM Jun 2021

House investigates possible shadow operation in Trump justice department

Source: Guardian


Judiciary committee want to know if officials violated policies in issuing secret subpoenas against congressional Democrats

The former attorney general Jeff Sessions, along with his successor William Barr, have denied knowledge of the subpoenas but congressional Democrats will look into whether their statements were misleading.

Hugo Lowell in Washington
Thu 24 Jun 2021 01.00 EDT

Top Democrats in the House are investigating whether Trump justice department officials ran an unlawful shadow operation to target political enemies of the former president to hunt down leaks of classified information, according to a source familiar with the matter.

The House judiciary committee chairman, Jerry Nadler, is centering his investigation on the apparent violation of internal policies by the justice department, when it issued subpoenas against Democrats Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell in 2018.

The use of subpoenas to secretly seize data from the two Democrats on the House intelligence committee – and fierce critics of Donald Trump – would ordinarily require authorization from the highest levels of the justice department and notably, the attorney general.

But with the former Trump attorneys general Bill Barr and Jeff Sessions denying any knowledge of the subpoenas, Democrats are focused on whether rogue officials abused the vast power of the federal government to target Trump’s perceived political opponents, the source said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/24/house-democrats-justice-department-shadow-operation-investigation

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House investigates possible shadow operation in Trump justice department (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2021 OP
Well ya, they did. sheshe2 Jun 2021 #1
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Jun 2021 #2
Some republicans should be going to prison for this ffr Jun 2021 #3
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #5
Yes! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #4
Lock them up! burrowowl Jun 2021 #6
Yes, that's it, a shadow operation, in many places I suspect. Rogue officials? bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #7
yes there was. also eavesdropping on tower phones. mopinko Jun 2021 #18
Sorry, I can't remember where I heard this, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #8
Didn't Barr issue an order that every "political" investigation had to be approved by him tetedur Jun 2021 #9
Eye has not seen nor ear heard, gab13by13 Jun 2021 #10
Somebody signed those subpoenas. Who? Lonestarblue Jun 2021 #11
My thoughts as well. Raven123 Jun 2021 #12
Clerks authorized to rubber stamp all such, or as comes from some other? bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #13
A clerk... Wuddles440 Jun 2021 #14
Not just signed but one would think there is a date on them... Ohio Joe Jun 2021 #15
K&R IrishAfricanAmerican Jun 2021 #16
Once upon a time wryter2000 Jun 2021 #17

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
1. Well ya, they did.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:32 AM
Jun 2021
Judiciary committee want to know if officials violated policies in issuing secret subpoenas against congressional Democrats


Investigate then lock them up!

ffr

(22,670 posts)
3. Some republicans should be going to prison for this
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:52 AM
Jun 2021

Heck, the whole lot of them have been playing loose with the legal system under the protection of crime boss T----. The DOJ should be purging the T---- cronies and getting down to business of cleaning up the GOP's crime syndicate.

bucolic_frolic

(43,174 posts)
7. Yes, that's it, a shadow operation, in many places I suspect. Rogue officials?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:23 AM
Jun 2021

The public hierarchy gives covert operatives room to maneuver. There may yet be a Deep State, but this is an Orange Side State.

Stone, Manafort, KA Conway, McGahnn, Barr ... these are all connected in some way, drawn from the same extended network of self-dealers. Some date back to Nixon. He knew a thing or two about shadow operations.

Do I recall correctly, during the 2016 campaign, when news surfaced of Trump Winery in VA, was there a confirmed taped surveillance system? The news faded fast. Not sure if they didn't want the public to know, or if it was just so small as to be inconsequential. But what if such a system were linked to hotel guests in other businesses? Dunno, remains one of those extraneous thoughts.

Rogue officials? I'm thinking more in the line of "agent without portfolio" as they say in the espionage business. ' ... as always, Mr. Phelps, if you are caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. Good luck, Jim.'

gab13by13

(21,357 posts)
8. Sorry, I can't remember where I heard this,
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:49 AM
Jun 2021

correct me if I'm wrong; Merrick Garland doesn't want to weed out the politicization of the the Justice department by MF45 because it would give the appearance of politicization.

tetedur

(820 posts)
9. Didn't Barr issue an order that every "political" investigation had to be approved by him
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:00 AM
Jun 2021

sometime ago?

They deny knowledge? Wow, someone sure is going rogue or could it possibly be that Barr Lied?

gab13by13

(21,357 posts)
10. Eye has not seen nor ear heard,
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:14 AM
Jun 2021

the depths of corruption left by the MF45 administration, not to mention 232 Nazi judges, or was it 323 judges?

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
11. Somebody signed those subpoenas. Who?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:59 AM
Jun 2021

Either Barr is lying (as usual) or someone just below him issued subpoenas. They aren’t just anonymous documents.

bucolic_frolic

(43,174 posts)
13. Clerks authorized to rubber stamp all such, or as comes from some other?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:17 AM
Jun 2021

Will they try to pass this off as an 'honest' mistake? And the clerk had no idea the importance? And the request sought approval while head honchos had no knowledge. There. No one is responsible, everyone was doing their job.

Wuddles440

(1,123 posts)
14. A clerk...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:15 AM
Jun 2021

would never be permitted to "rubber stamp" a federal subpoena. They needed to be authorized by a DOJ official(s). While I suspect that any contemporaneous records of these events have probably been destroyed, Garland really needs to conduct a thorough internal investigation with a sense of urgency because there probably are participants of this operation still imbedded in his department.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
15. Not just signed but one would think there is a date on them...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 10:11 AM
Jun 2021

That should clearly show who was AG I believe.

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