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appalachiablue

(41,141 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:42 PM Jun 2021

Nearly All COVID Deaths In US Are Now Among Unvaccinated

Source: AP News

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

The AP analyzed figures provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data...

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187





- Karen McKnight stands in her backyard on Saturday, June 19, 2021, in Sammamish, Wash., holding two books written by her brother Ross Bagne of Cheyenne, Wyo. Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated like Bagne, a staggering demonstration of how effective the vaccines have been.
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Nearly All COVID Deaths In US Are Now Among Unvaccinated (Original Post) appalachiablue Jun 2021 OP
We have met the enemy and they is us underpants Jun 2021 #1
Looks to me like The Vaccinated Herd is going to achieve some immunity. The Unvaccinated abqtommy Jun 2021 #2
Sure they will, the old-fashioned way: culling the herd William Seger Jun 2021 #9
Yup. This will also help tip the electoral scales. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #13
teehee onetexan Jun 2021 #20
Am I a bad person? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #22
Lol onetexan Jun 2021 #25
We're going to Hell together, my friend. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #27
Does this hell train have room for one more? ShazzieB Jun 2021 #50
All aboard! lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #66
I think that already happened in the 2020 election. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #34
I think you're correct. COVID killed or disabled many Trumpers; also it scared the crap out of Dems lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #35
The virus requires a live host to spread DBoon Jun 2021 #19
But when nearly all unvaccinated have had it, whoever is left will have herd immunity William Seger Jun 2021 #31
Survival of the fittest, thinning the herd. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #43
As one of my southern gentleman friends used to say with an elaborate wave of his hand... forgotmylogin Jun 2021 #23
Not exactly how it works Bucky Jun 2021 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Jun 2021 #3
Looks like the 'red state' extinction event has begun. BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #4
+1 ffr Jun 2021 #15
Hey they want to go into the La Brea tar pits let 'em. Botany Jun 2021 #57
Sucks to not be vaccinated. N/T OneCrazyDiamond Jun 2021 #5
So much for their mantra: secondwind Jun 2021 #6
Chances or covid killing them are much higher, but they can't figure it out. LisaL Jun 2021 #11
Many deaths can be blamed on Fucker Carlson . BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #16
That bloviating windbag is probably vaccinated IronLionZion Jun 2021 #26
To put that under 300 deaths per day number in perspective EarlG Jun 2021 #7
That is a TOTAL estimate though because Flu is non-reportable and rarely kills directly Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #42
Here's another: Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #59
Yup thanks that was the one I originally read but didn't see it just now to post (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #67
I've been thinking this for years. Glad people are talking about it. And I hope Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #68
well, after covid burns through the morons, idiots, protrumpers, antivaxxers and Javaman Jun 2021 #8
The problem is, they are getting infected, allowing covid to further mutate LisaL Jun 2021 #10
+2 appalachiablue Jun 2021 #24
Exactly. DELTA PLUS is on the way, it appears.... HUAJIAO Jun 2021 #40
It's already here in small numbers. BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #44
Stackable lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #28
This Info That Un-vaccinated People Make Up Most Of The Current Deaths From Covid..... global1 Jun 2021 #12
Delta PLUS is heading our way too. BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #17
Good one! nt Wicked Blue Jun 2021 #21
This. It ain't over yet, unf. JudyM Jun 2021 #30
Reminds me of Audrey, the man eating plant in Little Shop BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #45
Definitely a resemblance there! ShazzieB Jun 2021 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #46
Survival of the fittest. Or is it Natural Selection. ffr Jun 2021 #14
Sounds like a Pro-Vax Plot PurgedVoter Jun 2021 #18
Conservatives are really owning the libs IronLionZion Jun 2021 #29
Has anyone done a breakdown of Covid Cases/Deaths by party affiliation? The Animator Jun 2021 #32
Compare the county level maps for COVID and for the election IronLionZion Jun 2021 #61
Sadly the ones who can't get the vaccine are being put Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #33
Your sister may consider a second opinion. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #36
It's my niece and she's a whopping 31. Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #39
Lighting a candle for her. moriah Jun 2021 #52
Thank you. Phoenix61 Jun 2021 #55
I'm on an upcoming anniversary date and years of Alateen/ACA. It's cool. moriah Jun 2021 #60
I feel for kids who are not eligible for vaccine AlexSFCA Jun 2021 #37
Well...that's generally how it works. paleotn Jun 2021 #38
+1 C Moon Jun 2021 #54
It Becomes A Self-Resolving Problem COL Mustard Jun 2021 #41
They are doing their bit to improve the numbers whopis01 Jun 2021 #47
I love math too. paleotn Jun 2021 #48
Dying from Covid is a choice now. ZonkerHarris Jun 2021 #49
If dying is the only way they understand, so be it at this point. You can lead a horse to water.... Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #53
Fine let 'em die Botany Jun 2021 #56
Abbott got Pfizer in December, DeSantis got Johnson & Johnson in March. dalton99a Jun 2021 #58
They are just dying to own we libs. I say full speed ahead. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #62
I'm okay with that. 😐 live love laugh Jun 2021 #63
Wasn't that ALWAYS the case? Bucky Jun 2021 #65

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. Looks to me like The Vaccinated Herd is going to achieve some immunity. The Unvaccinated
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jun 2021

Herd not at all.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Yup. This will also help tip the electoral scales.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jun 2021

When the idiots commit mass COVID suicide, we can win more elections.

ShazzieB

(16,412 posts)
50. Does this hell train have room for one more?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jun 2021

Because I am definitely headed that way, and would welcome the company!

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
34. I think that already happened in the 2020 election.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jun 2021

COVID-19 deaths in states like AZ and GA may have tipped the scales to Biden. The average age of COVID deaths are also Trump's strongest support.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. I think you're correct. COVID killed or disabled many Trumpers; also it scared the crap out of Dems
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jun 2021

Drove us to the polls despite our fear of catching COVID.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
31. But when nearly all unvaccinated have had it, whoever is left will have herd immunity
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jun 2021

... in a somewhat smaller herd.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
23. As one of my southern gentleman friends used to say with an elaborate wave of his hand...
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:58 PM
Jun 2021

"That's just God weeee-d'n' out the stupid people!"

Bucky

(54,020 posts)
64. Not exactly how it works
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:31 AM
Jun 2021

The vaccines are not 100% effective. So the more people going around unvaccinated, the more virus there is out there circulating and living long enough to mutate into different variants--some of which will be able to get past the vaccines.

Plus there are some people who, for various medical reasons, can't get vaccinated. When the rest of us get vaccinated, we protect them. When some of us don't, those people are more at risk.

People refusing to get vaccinated are still putting you and me at risk.

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
7. To put that under 300 deaths per day number in perspective
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:05 PM
Jun 2021

The 2017/2018 flu season was a particularly bad one -- the CDC estimated 80,000 deaths from flu. Taken as a single year period, that averages out to just under 220 deaths per day. We still have a little ways to go, but since the vaccines became widely available, we've almost lowered Covid deaths to that point.

Despite the fact that Covid is much nastier than flu (which is already bad enough) it really does look like we're starting to beat this thing. The Covid vaccines seem to be remarkably effective.

Scrivener7

(50,954 posts)
68. I've been thinking this for years. Glad people are talking about it. And I hope
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jun 2021

someone comes out with an explanation of why this was done (other than we want to sell more flu vaccines) at some point.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
8. well, after covid burns through the morons, idiots, protrumpers, antivaxxers and
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jun 2021

general ignorant dopes (all of the terms are interchangeable and stackable) then we should be good.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. The problem is, they are getting infected, allowing covid to further mutate
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jun 2021

and potentially create more dangerous variants. They are also infecting vaccinated people (however few those might be).

global1

(25,251 posts)
12. This Info That Un-vaccinated People Make Up Most Of The Current Deaths From Covid.....
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jun 2021

needs to be loudly communicated to the American People every chance the CDC & Biden get.

I'm sure that there is also a higher percentage of un-vaxxers in the number of cases of Covid and also hospitalizations.

This info should push a number of un-vaxxers to run out and get vaccinated.

Especially now when we have this Delta variant that is looking to be very insidious.

Response to BlueWavePsych (Reply #17)

ffr

(22,670 posts)
14. Survival of the fittest. Or is it Natural Selection.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 02:33 PM
Jun 2021

But knowledge is power.

Thank you President Biden for making vaccination a national effort!!!

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
29. Conservatives are really owning the libs
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:21 PM
Jun 2021

by defiantly being unvaxxed, unmasked, gathering indoors for parties and church services, and breathing in all this freedumb. Breathe Deep to resist the deep state.

Delta and Delta Plus are not just airline terms.

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
32. Has anyone done a breakdown of Covid Cases/Deaths by party affiliation?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:40 PM
Jun 2021

I have long suspected that the Rs would have a much higher rate of infection due to their stubborn refusal to take any precautions, and of course, their maskless rallies… considering to that so many Republicans are older, more vulnerable folk.

I wonder what impact it may have had on the 2020 election, and what will happen in elections going forward.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
61. Compare the county level maps for COVID and for the election
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:21 PM
Jun 2021

it's disproportionately Trump counties affected if you look at % of population.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
33. Sadly the ones who can't get the vaccine are being put
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jun 2021

at risk by thoseidiots. My niece lives in Florida and has severe cirrhosis. She’s worked really hard and is doing well now but I worry for her. He docs don’t think it’s safe for her to get the vaccine and she’s surrounded by Trumpsters.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
39. It's my niece and she's a whopping 31.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jun 2021

Her goal is to stay clean and sober for 6 months so she can get on the liver transplant list. She’s almost made it. That she has is nothing short of a miracle. The hospital referred her to hospice the last time she was there but one doctor thought there was a slim chance she’d pull it off and so far she has.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
52. Lighting a candle for her.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:34 PM
Jun 2021

I may sound crazy here, but I'd honestly think it'd be safer for her to get the vaccine before she had a transplant. I'd encourage her to consider a second opinion.

The main reason I say this is because I've seen someone else young with a failing liver -- and watched her go through two transplants (and two rejections). The medications go on once you have a new lobe of liver trying to take hold and start functioning have to suppress the immune system at least some to prevent rejection. Her status post-transplant might really be worse than pre-transplant when it comes to building an effective immune response.

Of course, I Am Not A Doctor and there may be clinical data that I don't know about regarding the way mRNA vaccines could affect a person with a lowered liver function. I would think if her kidneys were also functioning okay that it shouldn't be more dangerous than COVID itself (especially on immunosuppressants), but that's just my layman logic and not based on any concrete data.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
55. Thank you.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 08:41 PM
Jun 2021

I think you are right about the vaccine before the transplant. She hasn’t been accepted to a transplant program yet but as soon as she is I’ll be pushing for info on that. It’ll be UAB or the Mayo in Jacksonville. I’ve known my niece since she was 2-3 years old when she completely stole my heart. When I went to visit her for thanksgiving one year she told me it was easier to introduce me as her aunt and I couldn’t have been happier. I had no idea how about her addiction. If I had I would have brought her home with me then. Sadly, me and her mother have a complicated relationship (I thought she was POS mother. Who leaves a 7 year old at home alone asleep to go drinking? She wasn’t into being held accountable) and it took too long to convince her rehab was the only thing that was going to save her daughter’s life. She eventually came around but we lost valuable time and she had been very resistant to accepting the role she has played in the situation.
Probably too much info but I’m on really good meds for a pulled back. Yoo-hoo for pharmaceuticals!

moriah

(8,311 posts)
60. I'm on an upcoming anniversary date and years of Alateen/ACA. It's cool.
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 11:08 PM
Jun 2021

My mother passed away last year this upcoming Saturday, from liver failure due to drinking. She'd ignored the early warning signs, lied to her doctors who really did need to know that she liked her wine, then stopped going when a test showed she was dumping bilirubin in her urine -- never told any of us anything. Her choice, I suppose, even if it's hard to accept.

But when it comes to addiction, we can't make other people change. If a person isn't ready to face reality unbuffered.... no amount of treatment or rehab will work. It's a decision to live, and only they can make that decision. We wish we could make it for them... but we can't. It's possible that she wasn't ready to change when she didn't tell you about the addiction. It's hard to not blame ourselves, but we are only human. We can't read minds. Be gentle with yourself.

The young person I knew had an autoimmune disease as the main reason her liver disease progressed so fast, which is also why she was far more prone to rejection in the first place. So I hope for a better outcome for your niece once she is accepted into a transplant program.

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
37. I feel for kids who are not eligible for vaccine
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 04:36 PM
Jun 2021

Deaths among unvaccinated adults don’t bother me, it is their choice since vaccines are widely available virtually everywhere on a walk in basis. The kids under 12 are out of luck and the virus is migrating to them. They are the biggest target for covid and we can only hope that FDA approves vaccine for all ages asap.

COL Mustard

(5,899 posts)
41. It Becomes A Self-Resolving Problem
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 05:04 PM
Jun 2021

If people who aren't vaccinated die, then we get to herd immunity without them. As a plus, many are fans/supporters of the (vaccinated) Former Guy, so their departure from the body politic is not necessarily a bad thing. And I say that as someone with family members who are way out in T***p/Q land, and will never see the fallacy of their arguments.

My heart goes out to the people who are left behind when these people die, but as for them, not one iota of sympathy/empathy/understanding. If you're too dumb to get a vaccine, well, you're too dumb to live.

whopis01

(3,514 posts)
47. They are doing their bit to improve the numbers
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 06:20 PM
Jun 2021

If 5 people out of 10 are vaccinated, that's a rate of 50.0%
But if 5 people out of 9 are vaccinated, that's a rate of 55.5%

Evolve Dammit

(16,736 posts)
53. If dying is the only way they understand, so be it at this point. You can lead a horse to water....
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:36 PM
Jun 2021

Seriously, if it's a hoax, why are you sick and dying? Maybe, just maybe YOU'VE BEEN FUCKING LIED TO for 5 years.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
56. Fine let 'em die
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 09:22 PM
Jun 2021

BTW any doubt that Hannity, Carlson, Ingrahm, DeSantis, and Abbot have all been
vaccinated?

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