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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:35 PM Jun 2021

U.S. State Dept OKs possible sale of F-16s, missiles to Philippines

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. State Department has approved the potential sale of F-16 fighter jets, as well as Sidewinder and Harpoon missiles, to the Philippines in three separate deals with a combined value of more than $2.5 billion, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Philippines is looking for a new multi-role fighter jet and is evaluating the F-16 and the SAAB Abs Gripen.

The announcement comes as the United States seeks to renew an agreement with the Philippines governing the U.S. troop presence in the country, which is critical to Washington’s strategy to counter ever-expanding Chinese activity in Asia.

Last week, the Philippines again suspended for another six months a move to scrap the two-decade-old Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) that had been due to expire in August.



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U.S. State Dept OKs possible sale of F-16s, missiles to Philippines (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2021 OP
Whatever happened to the multi-billion$ of arms sales that Trump claimed to have made? keithbvadu2 Jun 2021 #1
I'd like to see us send one missile to Duterte, personally. Mc Mike Jun 2021 #2
We all agree this is a good thing. twodogsbarking Jun 2021 #3
No. Expansion of the military industrial state is not a good thing. Politicub Jun 2021 #6
The Philippine's being better prepared to stand up to China's bullying and land theft... EX500rider Jun 2021 #7
If they can dump those lemons to that authoritarian good for them LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #4
I think you are confusing the F-16 with the F-35 EX500rider Jun 2021 #5
My mistake. You are right. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #8
The F-16 is much cheaper than the F-35 Angleae Jun 2021 #9
Okay thanks. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #10

keithbvadu2

(36,818 posts)
1. Whatever happened to the multi-billion$ of arms sales that Trump claimed to have made?
Thu Jun 24, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jun 2021

Whatever happened to the multi-billion$ of arms sales that Trump claimed to have made?

Which included some sales that had already been arranged before he took office.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
7. The Philippine's being better prepared to stand up to China's bullying and land theft...
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jun 2021

....I consider a good thing for them and that will require a more modern military which requires purchasing newer weapons systems.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
4. If they can dump those lemons to that authoritarian good for them
Fri Jun 25, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jun 2021

The Gripen is a much superior jet for the money.

The US taxpayer has spend so much on the F-16 development, setbacks, etc...it will take a few of these deals to ever break even let alone make any money.

The American MIC decides they want a war jet that can do everything in the age of instant gratification. A swiss army knife of jets. Its a bomber AND a missile shooter, AND an air combat plane in one! What could go wrong? Turns out a jet has to have a certain weight and bulk to carry bombs, is not light enough for air combat. Or at least it sabotages both deployments trying to be all things to all situations. All kinds of electronic complications with so many functions to go wrong as well.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
8. My mistake. You are right.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jun 2021

Says something though that they would buy the one developed in the 70's over the newest shiniest jet. I just assumed this was the F-35, which is the one usually compared to the Gripen.

Angleae

(4,484 posts)
9. The F-16 is much cheaper than the F-35
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jun 2021

F-16: $12-35 million (depending on configuration)
F-35: $110 million
Gripen: $40-61 million

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
10. Okay thanks.
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jun 2021

I'd rather have 2 Gripens than one F-35.

In Canada here, the Conservatives ordered F-35s back when they were on pre-order. But it kept having delays and setbacks. So long that the Liberals have now come into power.
The Liberal government now is putting a hold on that. The Gripen is made for northern climates. I really hope they go for the Gripen instead. Sorry U.S.

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