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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,600 posts)
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:41 AM Jul 2021

Exclusive: Stephen Breyer says he hasn't decided his retirement plans and is happy as ...

Source: CNN

Exclusive: Stephen Breyer says he hasn't decided his retirement plans and is happy as the Supreme Court's top liberal

By Joan Biskupic, CNN legal analyst & Supreme Court biographer

Updated 6:46 AM ET, Thu July 15, 2021

Plainfield, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Justice Stephen Breyer has not decided when he will retire and is especially gratified with his new role as the senior liberal on the bench, he told CNN in an exclusive interview -- his first public comments amid the incessant speculation of a Supreme Court vacancy.

Far from Washington and the pressures of the recently completed session and chatter over his possible retirement, Breyer, a 27-year veteran of the high court, said Wednesday that two factors will be overriding in his decision.

"Primarily, of course, health," said Breyer, who will turn 83 in August. "Second, the court."

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/stephen-breyer-retirement-plans/index.html

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Exclusive: Stephen Breyer says he hasn't decided his retirement plans and is happy as ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 OP
One man's happiness. NT enough Jul 2021 #1
This is quite selfish. lark Jul 2021 #2
Why can't he stay one more year? jimfields33 Jul 2021 #4
That risks that something really bad will happen in the meantime. lark Jul 2021 #7
There's no guarantee that the Senate won't change until 2023 FBaggins Jul 2021 #10
You don't know that. clementine613 Jul 2021 #16
Have you checked the ages and health histories of our oldest Senators lately? BeyondGeography Jul 2021 #21
All it takes is one Sinemator changing their party and the Senate would change at any time. n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2021 #24
I'm afraid of Senator Leahy having another health incident and not recovering Submariner Jul 2021 #29
I'm glad he's happy, because many of us are anxious jrthin Jul 2021 #3
+1000 FlyingPiggy Jul 2021 #35
It is funny that we complain about a partisan Court ripcord Jul 2021 #5
Of course we complain about a partisan court. Aristus Jul 2021 #6
Talk for yourself. clementine613 Jul 2021 #17
Same here. Aristus Jul 2021 #20
Amen to that! Janbdwl72 Jul 2021 #37
Right, and apparently Justice Breyer is concerned about that, elleng Jul 2021 #8
Which will result in a 7-2 conservative court. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #12
So why couldn't Anthony Kennedy have thought like that? Janbdwl72 Jul 2021 #38
Ever see "The Blob" film? Maybe take a look at this speech by Sen Whitehouse for more perspective. JudyM Jul 2021 #15
Was that a jab at RBG? FBaggins Jul 2021 #9
He needs to go before the 2022 election. Have we learned nothing? Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #11
WE don't get to make these decisions, Justices do. elleng Jul 2021 #13
Yep. And the decisions they have been making up to now have left us with a 6-3 court. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #22
Was that the case with Anthony Kennedy? Janbdwl72 Jul 2021 #39
When many people here were pressuring RBG to retire, they were attacked as being ageist. BlueStater Jul 2021 #14
I LOVE RBG. I was one of the ones calling for her resignation when Obama was President. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #23
You were right. Janbdwl72 Jul 2021 #40
There are no liberals on the Supreme Court JohnnyRingo Jul 2021 #18
Or Soy Delicious peppertree Jul 2021 #27
Pathetic BeyondGeography Jul 2021 #19
Good for them! Janbdwl72 Jul 2021 #41
I got a better idea. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #25
Even better, they should be impeached. But that'll never happen since the Rethugs... clementine613 Jul 2021 #26
Plenty of Democrats would reject it as well FBaggins Jul 2021 #28
What ever it takes to restore some kind of balance. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #31
That has my support. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #36
His first consideration should be what is best for the country. SunSeeker Jul 2021 #30
Your country should be number one, Justice Breyer Mysterian Jul 2021 #32
In the real world, most people hang it up late fifties to mid-sixties... VarryOn Jul 2021 #33
I heard Nina Totenberg discuss the calls for Justice Breyer's retirement. summer_in_TX Jul 2021 #34

lark

(23,155 posts)
2. This is quite selfish.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:56 AM
Jul 2021

Waiting for health is like saying I'm OK with McConnell changing the court again for partisan reasons. Come on Breyer, do the right thing and soon or you too will be fucking this grand country.

jimfields33

(15,946 posts)
4. Why can't he stay one more year?
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jul 2021

The senate won’t change at all until January 2023. Next Summer/Fall would be perfect timing.

lark

(23,155 posts)
7. That risks that something really bad will happen in the meantime.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jul 2021

Yes, it's probably safe, but I don't trust fate or repugs.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
10. There's no guarantee that the Senate won't change until 2023
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:35 AM
Jul 2021

Just as justices don't live forever, we could lose a senator in a red state where the governor picks the replacement... and party switches have happened before.

The last time there was a 50/50 split Senate the balance was disrupted less than six months later.

Submariner

(12,509 posts)
29. I'm afraid of Senator Leahy having another health incident and not recovering
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:37 PM
Jul 2021

Vermont has a republicans governor. we be screwed.

jrthin

(4,837 posts)
3. I'm glad he's happy, because many of us are anxious
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jul 2021

as hell that as he's pleasing himself the republicans may get to replace another Supreme.

ripcord

(5,524 posts)
5. It is funny that we complain about a partisan Court
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:09 AM
Jul 2021

But want Breyer to do his job as a good liberal and retire.

clementine613

(561 posts)
17. Talk for yourself.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

If every Rethug on the court retired and was replaced by a progressive, I wouldn't shed any tears.

Aristus

(66,451 posts)
20. Same here.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:36 PM
Jul 2021

But that's not going to happen. Even achieving ideological parity on the bench is going to be a slog.

Janbdwl72

(47 posts)
37. Amen to that!
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 03:45 PM
Jul 2021

Of course, they won't retire! And while I don't want to see any Republican on the Court die by non-health related causes, I would certainly shed no tears if one of them died for health reasons over the next few months.

I just hope Leahy and Feinstein can remain healthy enough to serve and do their duties. And Manchin would support any nominee appointed by Biden.

elleng

(131,081 posts)
8. Right, and apparently Justice Breyer is concerned about that,
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:18 AM
Jul 2021

the appearance of a partisan Court, so wants to stay to avoid appearance he's retiring IN ORDER TO enable Dems to appoint someone with the Dem label.

Scrivener7

(50,997 posts)
12. Which will result in a 7-2 conservative court.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jul 2021

In which case, if you're not white and male, kiss your rights goodbye and welcome to Gilead.

Janbdwl72

(47 posts)
38. So why couldn't Anthony Kennedy have thought like that?
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jul 2021

I would have much rather seen him wait until the Orange Maniac left office to retire.

And of course it was okay for Trump, his cronies and minions to pressure Kennedy into retiring. But Democrats are harshly criticized for recommending that Breyer do the same.

JudyM

(29,270 posts)
15. Ever see "The Blob" film? Maybe take a look at this speech by Sen Whitehouse for more perspective.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=667661

Dark money is The Blob. Do we let The Blob completely destroy our democracy? At some point our strategic moves need to intensify. That point is surely now.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
9. Was that a jab at RBG?
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:30 AM
Jul 2021
Breyer said his new seniority in the justices' private discussion over cases "has made a difference to me. ... It is not a fight. It is not sarcasm. It is deliberation."

Scrivener7

(50,997 posts)
22. Yep. And the decisions they have been making up to now have left us with a 6-3 court.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jul 2021

If he doesn't go, that will become 7-2.

Janbdwl72

(47 posts)
39. Was that the case with Anthony Kennedy?
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jul 2021

I think most Dems would much rather see him still on the Court that Kavanaugh.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
14. When many people here were pressuring RBG to retire, they were attacked as being ageist.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 11:07 AM
Jul 2021

Well, she died and now we’ll be stuck with Amy Coney Barrett for the next 40 years.

It’s not ageism, it’s reality. When people get to be 80 or older, they can die or get seriously ill suddenly with little to no warning.

Breyer had a great run, but he has seen firsthand how ruthless and despicable the Republican Party has become. He can’t just assume his health will hold up for the next couple of years or so. For the good of the country, he needs to step down before those assholes obtain any sort of real power again.

Scrivener7

(50,997 posts)
23. I LOVE RBG. I was one of the ones calling for her resignation when Obama was President.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:51 PM
Jul 2021

I got shellacked here.

Janbdwl72

(47 posts)
40. You were right.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jul 2021

The sequence of events afterward proved you were indeed correct.

She did live with pancreatic cancer longer than most with that diagnosis.

But RBG should not have taken any chances and retired while Obama was in office.

JohnnyRingo

(18,640 posts)
18. There are no liberals on the Supreme Court
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jul 2021

and I hate when they define them as such.

Some are less conservative than others, but no one rises to the level of qualifying federal judge being a tree hugging feed the poor working class hero liberal.

Having said that, Breyer should retire soon enough to avoid the risk of a potential senate minority trying to appoint a replacement after the 2022 midterm. He can leave and take care of the Breyer family ice cream company.

Wrong Breyer? Then he can go home and spend his remaining days watching Wheel Of Fortune and eating Ben and Jerrys like other "liberals" his age.

peppertree

(21,658 posts)
27. Or Soy Delicious
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:42 PM
Jul 2021

Seriously though, you're right: he really should.

May he live to be a hale and hearty 100; but he's really taking chances with the court - and the country.

clementine613

(561 posts)
26. Even better, they should be impeached. But that'll never happen since the Rethugs...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

... would never consider a fair hearing on the subject.

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)
28. Plenty of Democrats would reject it as well
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jul 2021

Trump was one thing. He made it comparatively easy.

But too many Democrats have to run in competitive states/districts. Trying to get a SCOTUS justice off the bench without much clearer criminal behavior would cost us elections (and without any chance of actual success).

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,032 posts)
31. What ever it takes to restore some kind of balance.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:11 PM
Jul 2021

I hope we shift it back to our favor while the gettin's good.

Mysterian

(4,591 posts)
32. Your country should be number one, Justice Breyer
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:20 PM
Jul 2021

Retire and let President Biden get a young liberal on the court.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
33. In the real world, most people hang it up late fifties to mid-sixties...
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jul 2021

But, notice how politicians (judges are politicians, too) don't often quit until well beyond that. It's hard to let go of power. Power corrupts...you know the rest.

summer_in_TX

(2,748 posts)
34. I heard Nina Totenberg discuss the calls for Justice Breyer's retirement.
Thu Jul 15, 2021, 10:52 PM
Jul 2021

Apparently they were coming so frequently, publicly, and over the top that it rose to the threshold to be covered on NPR.

I remember her saying something to the effect that human nature could mean that those calls would make it absolutely the last thing Breyer would do. I could relate to that. People pushing me make my (figurative) mule ears lay back, while pulling triggers the instinct to pull back and away.

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